Was Burke involved?
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I did not say that Burke and JonBenet were half siblings I said that Beth and Burke were half siblings, which is correct.
I have had a day here but I believe JonBenet's medical records were turned over I will dig around and see if I can confirm that.
I have had a day here but I believe JonBenet's medical records were turned over I will dig around and see if I can confirm that.
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Yes they were. They had the same father but different mothers. That makes them half siblings. Right?
ETA: You meant the records? Sorry, IT has been a long day for me. I also remember that they were turned over.. I don't know where though. Hopefully someone can either confirm that or set us all straight.
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No Carmelita- they were not turned over.
If everything was fine and normal- why weren't they?
John Ramsey could have gone along way to showing his beloved baby girl had not been chronically abused but didn't.
That means only one thing in my book- and I don't need to be a rocket scientist to come to my conclusion.
Patsy and John talked out both sides of their mouths as far as I'm concerned.
If everything was fine and normal- why weren't they?
John Ramsey could have gone along way to showing his beloved baby girl had not been chronically abused but didn't.
That means only one thing in my book- and I don't need to be a rocket scientist to come to my conclusion.
Patsy and John talked out both sides of their mouths as far as I'm concerned.
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I think Linda was referring to the medical files being turned over.
Her response was: They weren't.
Which is true.
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LOL.. I got that after I read it again.. I think I am about 3 cups of coffee low today.
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I understand! Me too! Lol!
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If the GJ had asked for the medical records, would they have been provided, or was it AH who made the decision about them? If the records were provided, then we won't ever know.
I believe these records hold deep dark secrets that led to this tragedy. I wonder what was said when the teachers from their school spoke to the GJ, and didn't they call a social services person to testify? PR volunteered at the school many times. I have to wonder if she was there to keep a watchful eye on one or both children.
I believe these records hold deep dark secrets that led to this tragedy. I wonder what was said when the teachers from their school spoke to the GJ, and didn't they call a social services person to testify? PR volunteered at the school many times. I have to wonder if she was there to keep a watchful eye on one or both children.
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Quote function isn't working for me again 
Carmelita:
I might have not been clear:
The quote I posted is a direct quote from Bryan Morgan--Ramsey lawyer--and was taken directly from a June 1998 "interview" with Rs lawyers, Lou Smit, representing the DAs office, the Rs private investigator, and special prosecutor Mike Kane.
Morgan made these remarks as a condition for Ramsey "cooperation"
(3257)
These are not opinions, it's in the transcript from that day. I have no idea if it can be "sourced" anywhere else, b/c Kolar was one of the few who had that kind of access.
If people don't agree with his conclusions of the case, that's fine, but the large majority of the book is about what he finds in the case files. Over 60,000 pages worth of documentst, evidence, as well as his own interviews.
I'm hoping we've resolved the question of his truthfulness.
Carmelita:
I might have not been clear:
The quote I posted is a direct quote from Bryan Morgan--Ramsey lawyer--and was taken directly from a June 1998 "interview" with Rs lawyers, Lou Smit, representing the DAs office, the Rs private investigator, and special prosecutor Mike Kane.
Morgan made these remarks as a condition for Ramsey "cooperation"
(3257)
These are not opinions, it's in the transcript from that day. I have no idea if it can be "sourced" anywhere else, b/c Kolar was one of the few who had that kind of access.
If people don't agree with his conclusions of the case, that's fine, but the large majority of the book is about what he finds in the case files. Over 60,000 pages worth of documentst, evidence, as well as his own interviews.
I'm hoping we've resolved the question of his truthfulness.
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Good Gravy. Burke and Beth were half siblings that is a simple statement of fact not even open to debate.
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Quote function isn't working for me again
Carmelita:
I might have not been clear:
The quote I posted is a direct quote from Bryan Morgan--Ramsey lawyer--and was taken directly from a June 1998 "interview" with Rs lawyers, Lou Smit, representing the DAs office, the Rs private investigator, and special prosecutor Mike Kane.
Morgan made these remarks as a condition for Ramsey "cooperation"
(3257)
These are not opinions, it's in the transcript from that day. I have no idea if it can be "sourced" anywhere else, b/c Kolar was one of the few who had that kind of access.
If people don't agree with his conclusions of the case, that's fine, but the large majority of the book is about what he finds in the case files. Over 60,000 pages worth of documentst, evidence, as well as his own interviews.
I'm hoping we've resolved the question of his truthfulness.
Sorry Betty I am doing three things at once and I don't know what you are referring to.
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the FBI said "you will find her body" and "look to the parents"
Much has been made of this statement by a first responder FBI agent. As much in this case it is taken out of context and it is formed to mean what the quoting party wants it to mean rather than what it objectively meant. The FBI agent that made this statement had been trained by John Douglas and it was policy to always “look to the parents” as they are most likely, statistically, to be the perpetrator. That is all the FBI agent was saying he was not inferring, he was speaking generally, to a specific case. That fact is not indicative of the Ramsey's guilt in anyway. Both Douglas and the FBI agent have said as much.
Any good statistician will tell you statistics mean nothing to the individual.
Much has been made of this statement by a first responder FBI agent. As much in this case it is taken out of context and it is formed to mean what the quoting party wants it to mean rather than what it objectively meant. The FBI agent that made this statement had been trained by John Douglas and it was policy to always “look to the parents” as they are most likely, statistically, to be the perpetrator. That is all the FBI agent was saying he was not inferring, he was speaking generally, to a specific case. That fact is not indicative of the Ramsey's guilt in anyway. Both Douglas and the FBI agent have said as much.
Any good statistician will tell you statistics mean nothing to the individual.
She was referring to the medical records. "They weren't" turned over.
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Sorry the "quote" function wasn't working,
I was replying to your earlier comment.....
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