Was Burke involved?

[MyBelle]

What part of "breaking out of prison" reads "law abiding" to you?

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In her old age she's law abiding but when she was Burke's age she was a mess.

In her old age she's living in secret so it is unknown if she is law abiding or not.

 

[MyBelle]

Do you realize how ridiculous this statement is? A lawyer is going to tell a client to commit a felony and risk implicating himself and his wife in murder, to cover for a crime they knew Burke wouldn't be charged with anyway????

It has nothing to do with proving the call, those conversations are privileged anyway

How does contaminating a crime scene implicate John Ramsey? It did just the opposite.

Yes the conversation is privileged but the existence of the call would not be.

btw, I didn't raise the issue of the lack of a subpoena, Steve Thomas raised it.

 

[tezi]

Nobody has called Burke psychopath or sociopath. I'm honestly getting REALLY tired of the insinuation that that's what BDI theorists have been saying.

Well said Tawny!

Burke was a troubled nine-year-old boy. Who wouldn't be trying to keep of the facade of the "perfect family?"

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

Well... IIRC the time of death was somewhere around midnight. According to Burke he went to bed around 11...according to his parents it was around 9:30.

Quite a difference.

Burke said she walked in the house that night.

Patsy says John carried her in and up to bed. Then John went down to put together a toy with Burke for a few minutes.

John says he carried her upstairs and read to JonBenet.

Yet there's a bowl with pineapple and a glass with a tea bag with Patsy & Burke fingerprints. It wasn't there previously.

Patsy says there was no snack.
Patsy says JonBenet was zonked out.
Patsy denies the pineapple is even Ramsey pineapple.

The pineapple from the fridge matched the pineapple inside JonBenet matched, down to the rind.

Yet there's a bowl with pineapple and a glass with a tea bag with Patsy & Burke fingerprints. It wasn't there previously.

Patsy says Burke never owned a pair of Hi-tech boots.
Burke and someone else state he did.

.............


The morning.

Patsy and John both claim Burke slept though everything and new nothing.

Years later we learn Burke was awake that morning.

Why all the distancing, lies and throwing up roadblocks?



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The lies were to implicate an intruder not to protect BR.

Nothing Patsy said is credible. Once a lie is exposed such as BR sleeping through everything, nothing else can be assumed to be true.

 

[Chewy]

Nobody has called Burke psychopath or sociopath. I'm honestly getting REALLY tired of the insinuation that that's what BDI theorists have been saying.

What are you saying then? He accidentally garroted his sister? He had retrograde amnesia and this helped him lie to the cops?

 

[SapphireSteel]

Nobody has called Burke psychopath or sociopath. I'm honestly getting REALLY tired of the insinuation that that's what BDI theorists have been saying.

I'm reasonably new to this thread and I still have no clue what theory BDI people have.

Mainly because of posts like yours. Complaints, not really discussion.

No one called Burke a psychopath but they DID compare him to a psychopath, Mary Bell.

The BDI theorists themselves dragged Mary in, straight after Scott Petersen. It's all a bit confusing to me at least. Neither of these crimes have a thing to do with Jonbenet.

I've said before that BDI seems to depend on P&J finding JB dying and launching into a cover up instead of calling 911.

Do I have at least that right? Perhaps a BDI could share their theory again.

 

[MyBelle]

Nobody has called Burke psychopath or sociopath. I'm honestly getting REALLY tired of the insinuation that that's what BDI theorists have been saying.

I think the brutality of the murder is the handiwork of a sociopath. imo, you are making that implication by insisting BR was responsible for repeated sexual assault or murder. Such implications worked for his parents 17 years ago but it won't work now.

 

[Chewy]

How does contaminating a crime scene implicate John Ramsey? It did just the opposite.

Yes the conversation is privileged but the existence of the call would not be.

btw, I didn't raise the issue of the lack of a subpoena, Steve Thomas raised it.

No lawyer in his right mind is going to tell an unprofessional criminal to risk staging a crime scene hoping he won't leave evidence everywhere. Especially when Burke wouldn't have been charged anyway.

So now, not only is the entire family evil, but the lawyer too!

 

[Linda7NJ]

What are you saying then? He accidentally garroted his sister? He had retrograde amnesia and this helped him lie to the cops?

Scroll up.

Everyone has already commented and not a single reply claimed he accidentally garroted his sister or suffered from amnesia.


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[Tawny]

What are you saying then? He accidentally garroted his sister? He had retrograde amnesia and this helped him lie to the cops?

I'm not even entertaining this anymore. The fact that you asked me if I believe he garroted her proves you didn't bother to read the long, drawn out theory you asked me to post.

 

[DeDee]

What I can believe that the first thing a CEO would do is call his attorney and tell him his son just killed his sister so what do I do? How old is the son? Would be a logical question and "Contaminate the crime scene and make it look like an intruder" would be the answer.

JMO

If an attorney was indeed contacted at TOD by CEO JR, the Rs would have immediately known BR could not legally be charged.

This also would place JR in the position of not being able to testify in court to the contrary, since his attorney would know otherwise.

If an attorney offered ill advice to contaminate the CS and we shall claim an IDI, then their law credentials should be ripped in half bc that is highly unethical advice to extend to a client that could land the client in jail for fooling with a CS.

However, judging by the looks of the messy basement, could there have been a reckless ransacking?

 

[MyBelle]

No lawyer in his right mind is going to tell an unprofessional criminal to risk staging a crime scene hoping he won't leave evidence everywhere. Especially when Burke wouldn't have been charged anyway.

So now, not only is the entire family evil, but the lawyer too!

I didn't say he was advised by a lawyer to stage the crime scene I said he was advised to contaminate it. That's exactly what Ramsey did!

Lawyers defend criminals and do what is necessary so their client will avoid arrest. 17 years later, here we are.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I think the brutality of the murder is the handiwork of a sociopath. imo, you are making that implication by insisting BR was responsible for repeated sexual assault or murder. Such implications worked for his parents 17 years ago but it won't work now.

Brutality? She was unconscious after the head bash.

There has been nothing stating she was repeatedly brutally raped. Your words, not mine.

There is an eyewitness Burke and JonBenet regularly engaged in innapropriate sexual contact. No force required.

No one claimed he intentionally murdered her either.

A whack to silence, a whack in a quick fleeting fit of rage. Are my top picks.







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[Tawny]

I think the brutality of the murder is the handiwork of a sociopath. imo, you are making that implication by insisting BR was responsible for repeated sexual assault or murder. Such implications worked for his parents 17 years ago but it won't work now.

You don't have to be a psychopath or sociopath to be a young child who sexually abuses a sibling or other small child.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Could a BDI please share their theory?

Thanks

Scroll up, I've posted mine and others have posted theirs.


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[Tawny]

Could a BDI please share their theory?

Thanks

Already done and clearly ignored.

 

[MyBelle]

If an attorney was indeed contacted at TOD by CEO JR, the Rs would have immediately known BR could not legally be charged.

This also would place JR in the position of not being able to testify in court to the contrary, since his attorney would know otherwise.

If an attorney offered ill advice to contaminate the CS and we shall claim an IDI, then their law credentials should be ripped in half bc that is highly unethical advice to extend to a client that could land the client in jail for fooling with a CS.

However, judging by the looks of the messy basement, could there have been a reckless ransacking?

One has to prove the advice was given. Who is going to admit it? The client? The lawyer? The only unethical conduct I've seen is the lawyer in the DA's office who refused to subpoena the long distance records and who later went to work for Ramsey's attorney.

JMO

 

[tezi]

So you're saying it would be more shameful to Patsy to be the mother of little kid who stuck an object inside his sister rather than to be a wife of a man who stuck objects inside his child? I doubt it.

I don't believe JR covered for any reason other than for himself.

Why do you keep twisting what Tawny is saying?

JMO

 

[Linda7NJ]

In her old age she's living in secret so it is unknown if she is law abiding or not.

From the age of 23 until now she has never been arrested.

Your claims are false.


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[SapphireSteel]

Already done and clearly ignored.

That's me told!

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