was Christina involved?

[SeriouslySearching]

I think there is a good chance she was involved in the murder and the cover up. You are talking not just a woman scorned here to the nth degree, but a Marine. Hubby either is cheating or raped another woman and probably impregnates the woman he swore he did not have sex with. Jealousy and rage could figure into this equation quite easily. She had as much motive as her hubby did to kill Maria and the baby...if not more!

 

[Elphaba]

The more stuff that comes out, the more I am convinced that she is involved in some kind of way.

Does anyone know if the legal counsel she is currently under, is the same lawyer they supposedly went and saw the day before he high-tailed it out of the area? And, has it been officially verified that they really did go to the lawyers office, the day before he fled...

 

[Pharlap]

Don't know, but they are keeping her on base is all I've heard..

 

[SeriouslySearching]

The more stuff that comes out, the more I am convinced that she is involved in some kind of way.

Does anyone know if the legal counsel she is currently under, is the same lawyer they supposedly went and saw the day before he high-tailed it out of the area? And, has it been officially verified that they really did go to the lawyers office, the day before he fled...

I would assume since it was in the affidavit for the search warrant, LE would have checked out this detail. I have not seen a report out in the media tho.

 

[Jolynna]

I think Christina helped with clean up. She may or may not have helped with the murder. But, I don't know that it can be proven beyong a reasonable doubt that she did anything but wait a long time to turn information over to the police.

I think she cut a deal and that is why LE has taken the line that she is cooperating and no charges are being fired.

I think Christina and CL were probably up all night conjuring up a story which would point away from Christine before CL fled. As bad as the story is, whatever the real timeline, through the note Christina is alibied when the murder happened. According to her and her husband's note Christina, didn't know about the murder until the Jan. 10. It can't be proved otherwise, either.

Once CL is caught, as long as he sticks to the story he wrote in that note, Christina is the prosecutor's star witness.

I think most of us think she had more participation that that, but, I think Christina made a deal all are satisfied with and will be free to move and start her life over eventually.

 

[Pharlap]

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I now believed she was involved at least with the cover up.
Paint bought the 16th. And there was a lot of blood all over 2 rooms.
She'd have to be blind not seeing at least spots. Even after it was so called learned up by him..
Any small amounts left(which I wouldn't believe it got all of it) would bleed threw.
Where was wify again on the 16th?
JMO

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[Seven]

I'm leaning toward thinking xtina not only helped in the cover-up, but also helped in the planning.

* xtina's false statement that at approximately 4:00 a.m. on January 11, 2008, Cesar Laurean left their residence.
(We know this is false because her neighbor saw in his driveway at 6:30 a.m.)

* Xtina obviously knew her home had been used as an abattoir. as she and "stellar" painted over the evidence inside her garage and on the walls and ceilings of rooms in her house. (I mean, you dont leave the house in its normal condition in the morning, then come back after blood has been spattered on walls, ceilings, in garage & and simply not notice that something's different.)

* I'm thinking xtina purposely stayed away from the house on Friday 12/14 (attending on-base Christmas Eve party? Was she even active military on 12/14? If not, she went to the party without her husband. So, either she was expecting to go to that party with him OR she knew he would not be attending--I believe the latter). If the party she went to on 12/14 was the one on base and she WASN'T in on the planning (creating plausible deniability for herself because of their daughter), I mean -- what would you do if you were expecting to meet up with your husband at a Christmas party and he just never showed up?

hmmm ... ... all night long ... might even get worried.

 

[Mygirlsadie]

So you think she will walk away from this without even a slap on the wrist? If she is involved in any way I don't care what kind of deal they gave her I just don't see any justice in this at all...

I think Christina helped with clean up. She may or may not have helped with the murder. But, I don't know that it can be proven beyong a reasonable doubt that she did anything but wait a long time to turn information over to the police.

I think she cut a deal and that is why LE has taken the line that she is cooperating and no charges are being fired.

I think Christina and CL were probably up all night conjuring up a story which would point away from Christine before CL fled. As bad as the story is, whatever the real timeline, through the note Christina is alibied when the murder happened. According to her and her husband's note Christina, didn't know about the murder until the Jan. 10. It can't be proved otherwise, either.

Once CL is caught, as long as he sticks to the story he wrote in that note, Christina is the prosecutor's star witness.

I think most of us think she had more participation that that, but, I think Christina made a deal all are satisfied with and will be free to move and start her life over eventually.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

We don't know for a fact the neighbor saw him on that particular day. The neighbor could be mistaken on the date.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Don't know, but they are keeping her on base is all I've heard..

Just heard Greta on Fox this morning, and she made the comment that "the military have her squirreled up" and unavailable. This is the first comment I've heard about her whereabouts, but it goes along with what you've heard, I guess.

Has anyone else heard anything else about her current status/whereabouts?

Oh, and to keep this on topic, yes I voted!

 

[Seven]

We don't know for a fact the neighbor saw him on that particular day. The neighbor could be mistaken on the date.

Hi, SS!

Not sure which day you mean, but the interview w/the neighbor entitled "Speaking Out" occurred the day after LE rescued Maria and Gabriella from CL's backyard, and since there was a giant hole in the fence, the neighbor saw everything. And all the dates he mentioned were in relation to that traumatic weekend--Jan 11 to Jan 13, 2008.

When he was first asked, he said he saw cesar driving maria's car the same day cesar borrowed his shovel. He didn't insist on it when the interviewer asked again, but I've heard him say it in other interviews, and he seemed certain about that and a couple others.

Have you seen the interview?
http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, I have seen the interviews. Witnesses are not always reliable, imo.

 

[Seven]

Yes, I have seen the interviews. Witnesses are not always reliable, imo.

I completely agree. In fact, they're often unreliable.

But when people have a reason to try to remember, the fact that his attention was called to maria's car by his brother-in-law (or whoever it was) because it was the same make as his daughter's ....... and then then both looked at the driver and saw that it was CL (a vehicle he'd never seen CL driving in the 2 years they were neigbors and never saw again afterward) ........ and remembered that that was the same day CL had asked him to borrow a shovel. IOW, he gave a good reason/support for his memory.

 

[Pharlap]

I completely agree. In fact, they're often unreliable.

But when people have a reason to try to remember, the fact that his attention was called to maria's car by his brother-in-law (or whoever it was) because it was the same make as his daughter's ....... and then then both looked at the driver and saw that it was CL (a vehicle he'd never seen CL driving in the 2 years they were neigbors and never saw again afterward) ........ and remembered that that was the same day CL had asked him to borrow a shovel. IOW, he gave a good reason/support for his memory.

I would agree that would stand out in his mind.....

 

[katiecoolady]

I voted coverup but no doubt any number of celebrity defense attorneys are cooking up all kinds of defenses for HIM, I imagine including that SHE did it in a fit of post partum depression.

 

[FMRUSMC]

I had not noticed this until today so my vote is she has to be involved in some way - my reasons:

(1) The for sale sign in the back of Maria's car - my Questions?
Were the Laurean's planning on selling her car?
Was Maria's cell phone on the 'For Sale' sign and Xtina was answering
the phone to monitor potential buyers.
(2) The stuffed puppy dog in the back window?
How could Xtina miss this?
Was this the Laurean's 18 month old's toy?
Was this Maria's cool stuff?

Based on just these two items - how could Xtina not have noticed for a week? After all, she was a Marine as well.
What is going on in this investigation? Why hasn't these redneck, non-communicating, clothes-hangar body detecting LE's removed the sign for hand-writng analysis and DNA testing on the toy.

c'mon LE - luminol everything, hand writing analysis on everything, DNA test everything - NG, I need help - I am getting so sick.
:bang: :bang: :bang: :bang:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

LE hasn't done any testing to include Christina, imo. They have solely gone after Cesar and will continue to do so. I think it is an enormous mistake on their part and will only lead to Christina's involvement not being punished in any way. Since this was obviously Cesar and Christina's plan to begin with...I would say they were two very crafty Marines who did in fact outsmart and outplay both the Marines, FBI, and LE. How else can you look at it?! He is wandering around Mexico as free as a bird and she is being protected by the Marines and LE from any prosecution because she is a "key witness"...even if what she has told them is full of deceptions and allowed the escape of her husband. It is just mindboggling!!