Was Joe involved?

[LoveEndsWar]

I did hear a report that Joe was given polygraph in the beginning and he passed. Maybe that is why he is not considered suspect? You have Misty and Tommy repeatedly failing polys and then Joe, supposedly, passed.

I have never heard that, but I am interested. Any idea what site?

 

[LoveEndsWar]

HLN just now said LE said call from TC to gram did happen.

I saw this. Jean Cesauras said that LE confirmed the call from Tommy. It is interesting that Tommy said JO was responsible and LE confirming it sends the message that they are looking at JO by releasing this info, I think.

 

[LoveEndsWar]

I remember reading that it is not uncommon for families who have custody issues to be given parenting classes/council. That may be the reason why he knows the "appropriate" way to spank a child.

I'm not sticking up or defending or anything. I Just remember reading that on here early on in the case.

It is customary where I live for parental classes to be required. A lot of custody arrangements in which the parents are not getting along/not in agreement also have home studies ordered.

 

[grandmaj]

Lets get back on topic please. Was JOE involved?

 

[Searchfortruth]

There was a recent jail video, with Tommy and his dad, where Hank, Sr talks to Tommy about Joe's involvement in this. I remember Tommy's dad also saying well, I know a Croslin wasn't involved. It sounded strange at the time to me, but makes more sense now given recent events.

Joe is Lisa's nephew...I guess as long as it's not a "Croslin" all is well ?

 

[Chiquita71]

Hello WS

I do not know if Joe had anything to do with hurting Haleigh or not. But he is being called a sexual offender, by way of Misty. Yet, Misty was living with and sleeping with RC before she was of age. That makes RC a sexual offender. Maybe not in her eyes, but in the eyes of the law.

I do not see any more reason to believe Joe did this than RC, if we are talking about being a sex offender as reason to believe he could have murdered Haleigh. This information comes from Misty, and I may not know all the details of this case but I know Misty has lied repeatedly.

I admit, I can't get past RC living with Misty before she was eighteen. I do have strong personal opinions regarding sexual offenders and no one doing anything about RC, made me ill. It is part of the reason I stayed away from this case. I knew I felt too strongly about that subject.

But, here we are with Joe-and it is a big deal that he may be a offender, while all along everyone has known without a doubt that RC is an offender. Are the laws different in Florida? :angel:

I have difficulty in believing a father who brings in another child, to have sex with and watch his other children-should be given any credit as a good father, to say the least. I know RC is has not been accused by LE of this crime, but neither has anybody else. I hope there is a resolution soon for Haleigh, her family and all of those that love her.

:twocents:

 

[Donjeta]

I think he might be. Something seemed off to me in his interview, short as it was. To what degree he is involved, I don't know, but afaik we have never been told what his alibi is and I just wonder if it's because he doesn't really have one, having been there.

Then again, LE did say he was cleared and he hasn't been arrested so perhaps he does have one?

Aww shucks, I don't know anymore. I just felt it was strange that he and his atty gave an interview trying to establish that he's innocent and didn't do it, whatever "it" is, but failed to bring up his alibi which would take him some way towards proving his innocence if it's convincing. Possibly they're saving it for an eventual trial but it just seems like a waste of time to me to give interviews if you're not going to say anything but "poor me".

What makes me doubtful of Joe's guilt is, Misty and Tommy are trying to pin this on him. (Once caught lying, never believed...) I'm not convinced that Misty and Tommy are telling the truth now because there are still far too many stories. If they are supposed to have confessed all to Granny Flora, why does Granny Flora have several versions of the events? However, if Joe was there it would be easier for Tommy and Misty to pin it on him.

Heck, I don't know. I can argue myself into both corners.

 

[kalekona]

Thanks, but that doesn't change my opinion of grandma. IMO, she's just as bad as the rest of the family. The only reason any of them are talking is b/c they are sitting in jail.

I would love to know what exactly JO is saying to LE "in detail." That would maybe be of some help in determining whether or not he was involved.

He isn't saying anything at all he has stopped co-operating with LE.

 

[Lexington]

I think the only way Joe could be involved in this is if the motive for Haleigh's murder is to cover a sex crime. I don't believe that he took and killed Haleigh in retaliation because he couldn't find Ron's gun. He also would never have taken her in the presence of Misty, Tommy and Jr. If he took her at all, he would have come back when everyone was sleeping, after propping the door earlier. I keep going back to Jr.'s statement about the man in black with squeaky shoes taking Haleigh and the couch bouncing. Maybe Jr. did wake up and witness this. Maybe he didn't see the face, but was able to identify the clothes.

 

[lonetraveler]

ot, grandmaj I'll be thisquick :angel:..Can you imagine people telling you these things and you not asking any more details?..that's a tough one for me..moo

Ron told Nancy Grace that he had never asked Misty about that night.

 

[pip]

He isn't saying anything at all he has stopped co-operating with LE.

I think he is cooperating. He gave 2 media interviews and also spoke with investigators. I wouldn't do it without a lawyer present either! They are implicating him in murder. He would be a fool NOT to be represented. It doesn't mean he is not cooperating.

 

[Amster]

Interesting tidbit that I found....Joe, according to his mom, was questioned all night after Tommy was arrested for the theft of the gun.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

As far as motive.. I don't see any. He could just be a violent drug or sex freak who doesn't need one motive, although I don't believe that. My bigger question is.. why wait 14 months to spill guts about all these sordid details about Joe doing it? What would they have to lose by creating these elaborate stories 14 months ago if Joe did it? If Misty was so afraid of Joe.. why would she visit Tennessee and not stay at a safe distance in Florida? Why didn't she just tell LE what happened? He was already back in TN the day after! That would have been safe for her to tell LE. Why hang flyers with him..? (Even though he may have allegedly done it with Lisa..why was that OK with Misty? She would obviously know..) This is all hogwash. Why would they blame HIM if he was not the murderer, but involved? Wouldn't he rat them out too in return?? It just does not add up.

The police has always said that if they ever got something on Misty and she was no longer married to Ron that she would crack in jail and that seems to have happened and I guess the same thing happened with Tommy too.

I think Overstreet and his lawyer thinks the best thing he can do is to deny, deny, deny. When she went to TN, she had no intentions of telling anyone at that time what had really happened. By going to see him it would make it seem like neither one were involved and it was just a family visit.

I really don't know who will become the actual one that killed Haleigh but I do think it is one of these three (Tommy, Joe, Misty)

I don't think it is hogwash that the police hasn't let go of JO from day one. They keep returning to talk with him and there is a valid reason known only to LE why he will not fade from the list of those they are continuing to interview.

I keep wondering why some of his family says that Joe is crazy. I also would like to know why most of his family has turned away from him if they feel he is not involved. That makes no sense for if they believed him they would support him not abandon him.

imo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I think he is cooperating. He gave 2 media interviews and also spoke with investigators. I wouldn't do it without a lawyer present either! They are implicating him in murder. He would be a fool NOT to be represented. It doesn't mean he is not cooperating.

I find that very suspect now.

I just cant believe that LE would take a flight all the way to TN just to interview someone for 45 minutes.

IMO, after 45 minutes Overstreet and his lawyer knew where the interview was heading and the attorney stopped the interview. I think he knows that JO is right in the cross hairs of LE. By the way that Sheriff Hardy stated it in the PC it seems JO is no longer talking with them.

imo

 

[Indiana at Heart]

There has been no evidence found to link Joe Overstreet to the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings

http://www.cityjournalistdirectory....e_key_to_haleigh_cummings_homicide_case_7336/

 

[Indiana at Heart]

Joe Overstreet, Misty's cousin who is allegedly a sex offender and who was in town when Haleigh Cummings disappeared has been widely fingered as the potential killer. Misty Croslin Cummings' grandmother Flora Hollars claims Misty and Tommy both told her Joe is responsible for Haleigh's disappearance. But Joe Overstreet, while a convenient suspect due to his background and access, does not seem to have been favored by police as the man responsible and is not currently experiencing the hospitality of the Florida jail system. His identification as the killer would not be a surprise to the followers of the Haleigh Cummings case; thus, he does not fit the criteria Brown described.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2906270/whodunnit_haleigh_cummings_homicide_pg2.html?cat=8

 

[debs]

The guy across the street from me raped his little brother and sister. He was a juvenile. He is a registered sex offender, even though he was a juvie when he committed the crime. Joe is not on any sex registry that I've been able to view.

I'm not defending this little punk who seems to, like many in his family, steal things that aren't his. I'm simply attempting to stop this continued misinformation red herring parade. If he's on a registry somewhere, someone, please. Post it.

 

[Concerned Papa]

For me to possibly believe that Joe Overstreet is involved with the crime against Haleigh Cummings, all someone needs to do is show me ANYTHING that didn't come from a proven liar who's in jail. Show me something, anything, that was said out of a moral sense of obligation to right a horrible wrong against this little girl instead of a self serving batch of contradictory hogwash and I PROMISE YOU I will lead the charge against a monster.

Ronald Cummings AND his child bride have publically stated that Cousin Joe "stole" Ronald's gun yet each also tell conflicting tales of knowing EXACTLY where to retrive the gun! Just give me one sensible reason to believe anything about this tale being true!

Ronald Cummings has related a tale of Cousin Joe saying what a great place the Shell Harbor dock would be to get rid of a body to both Art Harris and Cobra. Art Harris said that Ronald told him Joe liked to toss small animals to the alligators for kicks to illustrate. In the Cobra tapes recently released, the tale is told somewhat differently but still boils down to Ronald saying Joe thought that location would be a good place to dispose of a body.

But Houston, we have a problem for lift off!

According to the Cobra tapes, Ronald says Joe "stole" his gun the first day he ever met him, which was the third day of Joe's 2 week visit! Exactly when was this "hanging out at the dock with Joe" tale that Ronald Cummings told Art Harris about supposed to have occured? Am I supposed to believe that Ronald was hanging at the dock with a dastardly gun thief after being a "victim" of the thief's crime? GMAB!

This past week we were introduced to Granny Flo with her tale of "breaking the case" by having received two phone calls from Tommy and Misty each blaming Cousin Joe. The calls just "happened" to be FIFTEEN MINUTES apart! Is this a small world or what? Two of her grandkids, both in jail, both over 900 miles away, just "happened" to call her accusing another grandkid who lives in the same town as her of murdering a little girl in Florida, at the SAME dock that the child's father said alligators were being fed!

Of course for this convoluted tale to be believed, it is critical that we ignore what Misty said in her LVA when she said she was "afraid" to be around Cousin Joe by herself. We have to ignore the picture of her and Joe hanging missing flyers less than 24 hours after this alleged murder by Joe. We're supposed to ignore that Misty went this 900 miles last summer to visit with Joe and family in Tennessee! GMAB!

Like I said, show me something, anything, that didn't come from a lying jailbird and I'm right there with ya on the "Cousin Joe did it" bandwagon. Until then, I don't believe any of their hogwash.

 

[CarrieBean]

I find that very suspect now.

I just cant believe that LE would take a flight all the way to TN just to interview someone for 45 minutes.

IMO, after 45 minutes Overstreet and his lawyer knew where the interview was heading and the attorney stopped the interview. I think he knows that JO is right in the cross hairs of LE. By the way that Sheriff Hardy stated it in the PC it seems JO is no longer talking with them.

imo

This was the impression I got also. If he were giving up information, I would think the interview would have lasted much longer than 45 minutes.

 

[CarrieBean]

The guy across the street from me raped his little brother and sister. He was a juvenile. He is a registered sex offender, even though he was a juvie when he committed the crime. Joe is not on any sex registry that I've been able to view.

I'm not defending this little punk who seems to, like many in his family, steal things that are his. I'm simply attempting to stop this continued misinformation red herring parade. If he's on a registry somewhere, someone, please. Post it.

I have to agree. If it's not true, it's a pretty horrible accusation for someone to have thrown at them.