weekend discussion: discuss the trial here #141

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and I am also wondering if they will play the other seven sex tapes as well :sigh:


Oh I sincerely hope not... I know I have had enough...and more importantly, I dont want his family to have to go through more of this nonsense...it doesnt matter...in the grand scheme of things it has nothing to do with what she did to him jmo
 
iirc there were a total of 7 recordings but only 1 was introduced as an exhibit so far?

Yes, I understood there were other recordings as well. I didn't recall a number but 7 sounds about right.

Also, are we sure all were sex recordings?

I wonder if the DT is trying to get one into evidence showing TA having a 'moment' of anger with JA to prove a point. I hope they are not allowed to do that.

But, IIRC, ALV was not supposed to be allowed to testify that TA was an abuser and she pretty much did. Anyone remember?

K
 
I don't believe JA ever had water in her car to wash herself off with. Why would she have risked leaving the house still covered in blood, and not to mention the heat? I think the blood/Koolaid stains were from her clothes or whatever she had dumped in the car. I guess the car mats must have still been bloodied too - or she decided they were good for burning for some reason....

I can't imagine she used water bottles to clean all the blood off that would most likely be own her. Some people have speculated she had another layer of clothes underneath the clothes she was wearing when she killed him and/or she showered before leaving.

I'm thinking perhaps the blood on the car mats could have been from a cut on her finger that didn't stop bleeding.
 
Baby chicks arrive today..looks like they'll have to watch some court! It's good to learn early! The horses et al know what comes first, lol..

I truly hope AL's health is ok. I want her to be in court tomorrow, though I get the feeling she'd almost rather have a serious illness of some sort. Such a sad way to wind up a career..

My jaw about hit my keyboard when she answered "no" to the question asking if JA was actually the abuser after listing her supposed 'hurts' and Travis' mortal wounds..that one word said it all.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I know many psychopaths do well in prison, but she is in for a very rude awakening when she's transferred out of county. Those ladies will know exactly who she is and will not be impressed AT ALL.

Oh I sincerely hope not... I know I have had enough...and more importantly, I dont want his family to have to go through more of this nonsense...it doesnt matter...in the grand scheme of things it has nothing to do with what she did to him jmo

Same here. If I have to listen to another second of her pathetic cooing at him I'll :banghead:
 
"Grace Wong hearing will be streamed live at 11am in Phoenix. Jury will be seated at 1:30pm to hear testimony from Lonnie Dworkin, computer forensic analyst, recalled by the def. "
 
well, if there are other sex tapes, then we have to listen to Nurmi......I don't think I can do that....just sayin
 
Baby chicks arrive today..looks like they'll have to watch some court! It's good to learn early! The horses et al know what comes first, lol..

I truly hope AL's health is ok. I want her to be in court tomorrow, though I get the feeling she'd almost rather have a serious illness of some sort. Such a sad way to wind up a career..

My jaw about hit my keyboard when she answered "no" to the question asking if JA was actually the abuser after listing her supposed 'hurts' and Travis' mortal wounds..that one word said it all.

Yes, that question and answer alone made her testimony baseless for me. Regardless of the 'hurts' that JA sufferred, TA suffered a great deal more.

God Bless the family...that had to hurt.

K
 
Baby chicks arrive today..looks like they'll have to watch some court! It's good to learn early! The horses et al know what comes first, lol..

I truly hope AL's health is ok. I want her to be in court tomorrow, though I get the feeling she'd almost rather have a serious illness of some sort. Such a sad way to wind up a career..

My jaw about hit my keyboard when she answered "no" to the question asking if JA was actually the abuser after listing her supposed 'hurts' and Travis' mortal wounds..that one word said it all.

Yep. It was the "No" heard round the world.
 
I don't believe JA ever had water in her car to wash herself off with. Why would she have risked leaving the house still covered in blood, and not to mention the heat? I think the blood/Koolaid stains were from her clothes or whatever she had dumped in the car. I guess the car mats must have still been bloodied too - or she decided they were good for burning for some reason....

I was thinking she showered at Travis' to get rid of blood on her and then used the water bottles to clean up again to be fresh and clean for Ryan Burns after all the driving???
 
DITTO

How many 19 year olds - GET A BOOB JOB - if they are not sexually active and all hot/horny little deviant already!! At 19. Boob job at 19....shows sex mattered, and her looks, IMHO

:moo:

I disagree. When you aren't born blessed with boobage the desire for them starts when every other girl your age is growing them!

I wanted mine done from the age of sixteen, surgeon wouldn't do it until I was 18! It's nice to fill out a shirt and bathing suit;)


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well, if there are other sex tapes, then we have to listen to Nurmi......I don't think I can do that....just sayin

Nurmi just needs to stop the bleeding and stand down.

Imo, the jury is soooooooooooo over the irrelevant sex stuff. They know by now it was between two consenting adults.

IMO
 
I disagree. When you aren't born blessed with boobage the desire for them starts when every other girl your age is growing them!

I wanted mine done from the age of sixteen, surgeon wouldn't do it until I was 18! It's nice to fill out a shirt and bathing suit;)


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Especially since JA was into taking pictures of herself.

Besides, sexuality/self esteem for females is built around the sum parts on the OUTSIDE at that age.

K
 
This expert did nothing right imo.

She said she 'assessed' Travis yet she does not have the credentials to assess anyone much less Travis who she has never spoken to nor even tried to speak with his friends. She could have contacted his family but if they told her 'no' then she couldn't have made them speak with her but she didn't even try.

All she did was murder Travis all over again based on no evidence.

IMO

I did some googling, came across some other sites, and will paste some comments I found here in this one post, instead of making several. Pastes below

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coolflannelcat1 3 days ago

I am a therapist with the same credentials as Ms. LaViolette. She has overstepped her credentials. She is not qualified to get on the stand with her master's degree and come to the conclusion that Travis Alexander was a perpetrator of domestic violence. This therapist has annihilated the code of ethics for her profession. She has based her opinion on the lies of a murderer and has shown no care or empathy for the family of the victim (that would be Travis Alexander, not Jodi Arias.)
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Originally Posted by Dr. Nick

I'm brand new here but have lurked for a long time. I've learned so much from the legal experts and the keen-eyed observers in the JA trial threads. Thanks to all of you!

As a psychologist, I've watched in horror as two of the worst examples of "experts" from my profession have done everything possible to undermine the credibility of the field in front of a national audience. Of course there is always some subjectivity associated with the analysis of human behavior, but adherence to scientific principles can produce reliable and verifiable results. Unfortunately, charlatans can use the language of the field to lend false credibility to almost any opinion.

I'm hesitant to question JM's judgment on any aspect of his cross examination, partly because I thought he was amazing (no notes!?!) but also because I would never want to incur the wrath of his fans here. I am new, after all. Still, he could have hammered ALV on her lack of scientific rigor, especially her repeated assertions that she was able to do all of the diagnostic work "in her brain". An absence of written work to explain in detail how her decision was reached is a huge red flag.

Also, the definition of "stalking" doesn't require the victim to respond in any particular way. Here's the American Psychological Association's description:

"Stalking refers to repeated harassing or threatening behaviors that an individual engages in such as following a person, appearing at a person’s home or place of business, making harassing phone calls, leaving written messages or objects, or vandalizing a person’s property. These actions may be accompanied by a credible threat of serious harm, and they may or may not be precursors to an assault or murder"

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Alyce is lying at the College like a fraud wth


http://www.csulb.edu/alumni/association/bod.html

Alyce LaViolette
'69, B.A., Psychology
'74, M.S. Psychology Marriage and Family Counselor
Founder Alternatives to Violence


Under oath she testified her MS was 1980
Jodi Arias Trial - Day 41 - Part 3 (cross starts) - YouTube 33:05


she is presenting herself at the college as getting her Masters in 1974 .
Under oath, knowing JM would know, she testified she got her Masters in 1980 Even bragged she finished it in 2 yrs. This would mean she wasn't even going for it six yrs earlier like she has frauded on the College site listing w the 1974 date. She embellished SIX years at the college listing
 
I did not know that there were 7 more tapes :what: I thought she had just gotten that phone (wasn't it from Gus) so that she could tape the sex.....the one we heard was from May 10.....now there are 7 more?? I did not know that
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - *graphic and adult content* Jodi Arias Trial media/ timeline thread **no discussion**
7 recordings (testimony from expert ^)

Jodi Arias Trial - Day 13 - Part 1 (Incomplete) - YouTube

Jodi Arias Trial - Day 13 - Part 2 - YouTube
 
Yep. It was the "No" heard round the world.


I have had a weekend to digest it and am still gobsmacked over it all...( I dont know if this is the right word... I just cant think of a word that truly describes how I feel about it )
 
Yes, I understood there were other recordings as well. I didn't recall a number but 7 sounds about right.

Also, are we sure all were sex recordings?

I wonder if the DT is trying to get one into evidence showing TA having a 'moment' of anger with JA to prove a point. I hope they are not allowed to do that.

But, IIRC, ALV was not supposed to be allowed to testify that TA was an abuser and she pretty much did. Anyone remember?

K
bbm: no.. not sure
 
I disagree. When you aren't born blessed with boobage the desire for them starts when every other girl your age is growing them!

I wanted mine done from the age of sixteen, surgeon wouldn't do it until I was 18! It's nice to fill out a shirt and bathing suit;)


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I agree. Houston is the boob job capital of the world. There are more breast enhancement surgeries performed here than anywhere else. In the 80s it was the trend to buy your daughter a boob job for a high school graduation gift, lol.
 
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