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[BBB167893]

Well, that begs the question: if they know who this was, why not turn them in?

 

[JMO8778]

Well, that begs the question: if they know who this was, why not turn them in?

Only thing I can think of is if they were involved in something illegal they don't want anyone to know about.A long shot,I know,considering JB was chronically abused and it's very damning evidence for fibers from both parents to be found on her.
I can't help but wonder about 2 things though..1- the reward money isn't very much..is that so someone (who is worth a lot more) doesn't come fwd if they know something?Because guilty or innocent,it makes sense to offer a high reward.Esp. since the R's don't seem to mind throwing innocent ppl under the bus,and it seems they would do anything to appear innocent.
And 2-the R's publicly stated they 'weren't angry with the killer..they just want to know why'.Is that (possibly) a message to someone whom they know is the killer,(if it isn't one of them???)IOW-they know who it is and want them to know they aren't going to snitch(for whatever reason-illegal activites they were involved in themselves,etc.),so be quiet,don't talk,because it's ok...they aren't angry and won't say anything.
IOW-killer be quiet,it's ok,we aren't going to tell. (not saying they weren't truly angry,they just want the killer to keep quiet).
That's the only reason I can figure they would even say anything so stupid.Any thoughts on either?? I know the R's were q'd about the low amt of the reward.

 

[4sure]

Well, that begs the question: if they know who this was, why not turn them in?

They may only have an idea of who was behind it. They did turn over names they suspected. Some here only ridicule them for it. It's also very possible the R's are involved in JBR's death and if not in something bigger. They may be very aware that there could be further repercussions (they do have other children and Burkes future to think about) if they get to pushy but need to stay just pushy enough to stay out of jail themselves.

 

[LinasK]

They may only have an idea of who was behind it. They did turn over names they suspected. Some here only ridicule them for it.

Yeah, because it's to save their own skins, push others under the bus, just like the fake Peterson "Tip Line".

 

[4sure]

Yeah, because it's to save their own skins, push others under the bus, just like the fake Peterson "Tip Line".

Its seem you are convinced of the R's guilt LinasK. They very well may be, however I just feel there is more to this case then we can see.

Let us not forget that if Lacy and Connor did not wash up on the beach that day then SP is playing golf at the country club making eyes at the cocktail waitress today.

 

[LinasK]

Its seem you are convinced of the R's guilt LinasK. They very well may be, however I just feel there is more to this case then we can see.

Let us not forget that if Lacy and Connor did not wash up on the beach that day then SP is playing golf at the country club making eyes at the cocktail waitress today.

Yes I've read enough to convince me of the Ramsey's guilt.

However, if Laci & Conner hadn't washed up when they did and Scott arrested when he was, I have no doubt he would have high-tailed it to the Mexican border. I used to live down there. Torrey Pines Golf Course is at most 1/2 hour from Tijuana. He was pulling an OJ, only OJ turned around in his pursuit. There were other pieces to Scott's conviction, that just happened to be the biggest elephant in the room!

Darren Mack and Andrew Luster also did the Run For The Border!

 

[jfk]

Kim Ii -- I just read Singular's book--He has interesting thoughts and he's very positive that child is growing. After I finished his book I could see what might have happened to JonBenet. It's sickmaking to think she was an object of , possibley with her parents' cooperation.

It's very difficult to see JR and/or PR promoting their daughter for child pornographic pictures/and or films. They didn't need the money that they would be paid for the photoshoot So why did they encourage a photographer
to come late at night the day after Xmas (and they were leaving early the next day for Michigan) to take pictures of their beloved daughter. I just can't buy it.

I'm beginning to think, once again, that the Ramsey had nothing to do with
the murder. And, I think it is possible an intruder entered the house. And the intruder was somebody they knew, or who knew them.

I've just ordered a paperback of Steve Thomas' book. Tonight on LKL Lin Wood denounced the book and said the Ramsey had sued him and won.

So we shall see.

"growing"...? it's already the single most lucrative venture online. according to some, anyway. probably is growing, but make no mistake, it's matured, as well.

 

[jfk]

They may only have an idea of who was behind it. They did turn over names they suspected. Some here only ridicule them for it. It's also very possible the R's are involved in JBR's death and if not in something bigger. They may be very aware that there could be further repercussions (they do have other children and Burkes future to think about) if they get to pushy but need to stay just pushy enough to stay out of jail themselves.

my thoughts were on that when i read your post, so i'll form them here.

if the R's KNEW that it was going on, and then the death occurred, they'd be just as reticent to disclose because of their involvement in child , even by association - even if not convicted, they'd be socially and financially ruined. probably to be guilty of that is worse than guilt of 2nd degree murder.

why would they have know about it and not done anything? - YET - (i'm thinking this through as i type) - let's see...

1) they DISCOVERED A FRIEND involved and hadn't quite made up their mind how to respond when the murder happened.

2) John's being blackmailed and CAN'T do anything about it.

3) They're being paid WELL to take part in it.

just thoughts, nothing more.

i read the first part of Singular's book. didn't get far enough into it to see him tie JBR to the Racket. seems to be catching on...?

as far as John's labelling other suspects, no matter what anyone thought of him doing so, the detective's duty is to check all of them out. Thomas states that everyone was checked and cleared. i can't believe that these detectives didn't HOPE to find a trail leading elsewhere. They just couldn't for a reason. I guess.

Odd phone calls placed to John's office that can't be checked because the feaking circus that was Hunter's office thought a warrant for phone records wasn't necessary. smacks of something governmental, and i'm NOT a Cons. Theorist.

 

[JMO8778]

my thoughts were on that when i read your post, so i'll form them here.

if the R's KNEW that it was going on, and then the death occurred, they'd be just as reticent to disclose because of their involvement in child , even by association - even if not convicted, they'd be socially and financially ruined. probably to be guilty of that is worse than guilt of 2nd degree murder.

why would they have know about it and not done anything? - YET - (i'm thinking this through as i type) - let's see...

1) they DISCOVERED A FRIEND involved and hadn't quite made up their mind how to respond when the murder happened.

2) John's being blackmailed and CAN'T do anything about it.

3) They're being paid WELL to take part in it.

just thoughts, nothing more.

i read the first part of Singular's book. didn't get far enough into it to see him tie JBR to the Racket. seems to be catching on...?

as far as John's labelling other suspects, no matter what anyone thought of him doing so, the detective's duty is to check all of them out. Thomas states that everyone was checked and cleared. i can't believe that these detectives didn't HOPE to find a trail leading elsewhere. They just couldn't for a reason. I guess.

Odd phone calls placed to John's office that can't be checked because the feaking circus that was Hunter's office thought a warrant for phone records wasn't necessary. smacks of something governmental, and i'm NOT a Cons. Theorist.

My other thought about that is it could have been shady business dealings as well (JR not wanting to implicate himself),although 3 things point to ,IMO..the photo(s) that were found of JB in the basement, that were q'd about in the interviews,as well as the black sheet metal listed on the search warrant...someone mentioned that might be an item used for photography if it had a pinhole in it,as it could be used for a camera.
And lastly,the searches for on JR's computer..I assume they need probable cause for that, and that may have came from one or more items found in the basement.Remember that at that point in time,the way JB was found wasn't considered to be ae or aea(did I get that right?).Only when Smit came on the scene was that introduced into the scererio.

 

[jfk]

My other thought about that is it could have been shady business dealings as well (JR not wanting to implicate himself),although 3 things point to ,IMO..the photo(s) that were found of JB in the basement, that were q'd about in the interviews,as well as the black sheet metal listed on the search warrant...someone mentioned that might be an item used for photography if it had a pinhole in it,as it could be used for a camera.
And lastly,the searches for on JR's computer..I assume they need probable cause for that, and that may have came from one or more items found in the basement.Remember that at that point in time,the way JB was found wasn't considered to be ae or aea(did I get that right?).Only when Smit came on the scene was that introduced into the scererio.

what photos? how long has this been talked about? and what sheet metal? how large? painted black...?

this was not mentioned in Thomas' book. where is it "published" as an interview dialogue...?

 

[JMO8778]

if the R's KNEW that it was going on, and then the death occurred, they'd be just as reticent to disclose because of their involvement in child , even by association - even if not convicted, they'd be socially and financially ruined. probably to be guilty of that is worse than guilt of 2nd degree murder

I agree. The R's seem more concerned about their reputation than with anything else.I don't think they would have a problem hiding something shady even if the killer wouldn't be brought to justice.JMO.

 

[jfk]

My other thought about that is it could have been shady business dealings as well (JR not wanting to implicate himself),although 3 things point to ,IMO..the photo(s) that were found of JB in the basement, that were q'd about in the interviews,as well as the black sheet metal listed on the search warrant...someone mentioned that might be an item used for photography if it had a pinhole in it,as it could be used for a camera.
And lastly,the searches for on JR's computer..I assume they need probable cause for that, and that may have came from one or more items found in the basement.Remember that at that point in time,the way JB was found wasn't considered to be ae or aea(did I get that right?).Only when Smit came on the scene was that introduced into the scererio.

i've just started Schiller's book - why is it rarely mentioned anywhere? he seems to be pretty respectable... is it any good?

 

[JMO8778]

Its seem you are convinced of the R's guilt LinasK. They very well may be, however I just feel there is more to this case then we can see.

Let us not forget that if Lacy and Connor did not wash up on the beach that day then SP is playing golf at the country club making eyes at the cocktail waitress today.

Or if he'd been wealthy and living in Boulder,no doubt !

 

[JMO8778]

i've just started Schiller's book - why is it rarely mentioned anywhere? he seems to be pretty respectable... is it any good?

I haven't read that one,I only saw the movie on dvd.I watched the version with Schiller narrating as well.

 

[jfk]

Or if he'd been wealthy and living in Boulder,no doubt !

no doubt - good one, jmo

i think the Boulder DAs have been pulling midnight shifts in Aruba.

 

[JMO8778]

Lawyers who make a living out of defamation suits have a saying: "The higher up a monkey climbs, the more their rear is exposed."

I would also add that applies to the monkey following him as well.
It's inevitable.

 

[JMO8778]

what photos? how long has this been talked about? and what sheet metal? how large? painted black...?

this was not mentioned in Thomas' book. where is it "published" as an interview dialogue...?

I recall that from one of the interviews;it was posted here at this forum,I don't recall which thread.For the items in the search warrants,go to acandyrose.com and you can find those listed.I don't recall if it mentions size or whether it was painted or not.I think it just said it was black.

 

[jfk]

I would also add that applies to the monkey following him as well.
It's inevitable.

i think ALL lawyers say that. ) or at least know it.

 

[4sure]

Just in case some may doubt the "sex ring" "child " big money goverment cover ups you may want to check this out.Conspiracy of Silence mp4
It takes a few moments to load.

 

[Eagle1]

PS Perhaps this is why the video of xmas morning supposedly "disappeared." Perhaps someone was in it that had something to do with this,and this is where a film started,at the beginning of xmas morning with everyone unwrapping presents.(Perhaps even JAR,as a neighbor thought he saw him that day?)
I have to wonder if this is why JBR was told she was getting a special visit from Santa after Xmas, too.It sounds like something was preplanned.
I have always wondered about JR's visit to the airport as well.Maybe he picked someone or some people up there that were involved in whatever was going on.(maybe even JAR?).

This makes so much sense to me I want to remind us of it, although I've only read the first page of this thread so far and still have about seven pages to go to catch up.

In several ways it does seem this was all preplanned and that a lot of people knew. (The friends all being dressed so early that morning and ready to come running, BPD making excuses such as short handed and not opening that door, etc.) Higher-ups being involved makes a lot of sense.

And I do hope JonBenet was sedated enough that what happened to her was not too horribly painful, but she screamed loudly I firmly believe Melody Stanton and Barnhill were telling the truth but were silenced. The reason she tried the 911 call when molested on the 23rd, imo if you're right about her usually being sedated, would have been because that night she wasn't sedated, some perp may have forgotten, who'd maybe had too much to drink. Realized she was now dangerous to him and had to promise the after-Christmas extra visit, to finish her off. Poor innocent little kid.