WESH: Duct Tape Info in the Document Release

[Rumpole]

All you guys accepting your grades are assuming that HP knows the correct answers to both questions. LOL! I would examine his teacher creds. Maybe he doesen't know either and is seeking info.

I not only know the correct answers, but I and others have explained and shown references aross several threads and 10's of pages!!!

To make it easier: It is an "Open Book" test. You can actually look up and copy your answer!!
I can't be fairer than that!

So far the highest grade is D+
Nobody has got them both?

 

[gardenhart]

In Florida, can one plead 'no contest' and admit to nothing? Or does a plea come with a confession in front of the judge in court?

Nolo contendere or no contest pleas mean the defendant admits the prosecution has enough evidence to convict them but they are not admitting guilt. So, yes, you can plea guilty, sort of, without confessing.

 

[LCoastMom]

Gee, Mr. Poirot,
I can't answer now. I don't want to show everyone else up. :crazy:

sorry for the duplicate replies but I needed more characters......

 

[natsound]

We need confirmation on the amount of duct tape used. The latest document dump states "a piece of silver duct tape was found over the mouth area". CNN states that here: http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/22/casey-blog-draft/

WKMG, who has sources telling them KC's fingerprints are not on the tape, says the tape was wrapped around the skull: http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18728295/detail.html

I don't know about y'all, but there's a big difference to me. A piece of tape over the mouth area suggests to me that Caylee was not conscious or was not alive (unless she was bound at her wrists as well, but evidence of that would have been found in the bag or in the area). If she had been conscious and not bound, she could have easily ripped it off. Much harder if it's wrapped around her head.

 

[Rumpole]

To occupy time before the doc dump, I vote Hercule Poirot be in charge of a scavenger hunt for case clues. Could be fun....no?:crazy:

I was going to ask a few more, but we are stuck on the easy ones!

 

[LCoastMom]

I not only know the correct answers, but I and others have explained and shown references aross several threads and 10's of pages!!!

To make it easier: It is an "Open Book" test. You can actually look up and copy your answer!!
I can't be fairer than that!

So far the highest grade is D+
Nobody has got them both?

You still didn't answer my question but what about my 3rd attempt at your question???? I never give up without a fight and will use up every possible answer, I'm not proud. Obviously since you gave me an E and I came back for more.

 

[whiteangora]

I never even got a reply to my guess.
I'm takin' my pencils and going home.:crazy:

 

[Psmith]

To be exact, the quote is "detectives [are] still investigating whether there are discernable finger prints on the duct tape." Detectives are still peering at the tape to see if there are fingerprints? No, lab techs do this. (Moooo.) Curious--are fed lab techs called detectives? I don't know.

I think this is an evidence "hold back." Notable omission: DNA.

Interesting.

Here is the link from WFTV, per Kathy Belich. The article about "no discernable fingerprints" as of yet.
http://www.wftv.com/news/18734025/detail.html

(Do fingerprints hold out after 6 months of submergment in water? If so, Someone's fingerprints would have to be on it, right?)

 

[lawlady84]

But they have enough direct physical evidence to tie at least part of the crime to the A's house. The items found on or near Caylee's body. bedding, trash bags etc. This would mean they have more then enough to get what you describe as a type 2 warrant.

Yeah exactly. I want to clarify what I said, there aren't 2 types of actual warrants, it more has to do with their scope. I tend to make up categories and names for myself so I don't get them mixed up in practice, but I don't want to confuse anyone else here with my internal markers haha

Here, they found things with Caylee's body that linked to the A house - so it gives them greater scope to search all of the A house for items related to those items, and also more generally related to the death of Caylee.

Its different if without tangible evidence someone said, I think Cindy stole a fridge (or I think Cindy played a role in this death). There, you're infringing on Cindy's right of privacy - so LE is a lot more limited to JUST what is in the search warrant - ie finding the fridge. We protect property because it's someone's.

 

[Cherry Baby]

For those of you lucky people tomorrow that get to peruse the docs before some of us others - please have some mercy and remember to translate some of the docs here. Thank you in advance!

 

[cuppy199]

We need confirmation on the amount of duct tape used. The latest document dump states "a piece of silver duct tape was found over the mouth area". CNN states that here: http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/22/casey-blog-draft/

WKMG, who has sources telling them KC's fingerprints are not on the tape, says the tape was wrapped around the skull: http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18728295/detail.html

I don't know about y'all, but there's a big difference to me. A piece of tape over the mouth area suggests to me that Caylee was not conscious or was not alive (unless she was bound at her wrists as well, but evidence of that would have been found in the bag or in the area). If she had been conscious and not bound, she could have easily ripped it off. Much harder if it's wrapped around her head.

I highly doubt Caylee would pull off duct tape if it was stuck to her hair. Duct tape is like super tape it could possible pull off skin when ripped off especially a small child.

 

[Rumpole]

This is an ongoing investigation and they have not released all the information pertaining to the crime so it would be unknown if there are other knives or the color of the ties on the bag specifically found with the body. They could have found another trash bag with a colored tie and not released the color of the other.

Well I did have my reply correct in the first place.

 

[Marina2]

1 knife (that's confirmed with the docs we have so far)
unknown color of bag ties


I'm not that confident that we know of all the evidence found at the remains site.

 

[Whisperer]

I'm not thinking that she wrote a note to Caylee...I'm wondering why they went after notebooks, specifically after her remains were found. Pondering possibilities. Logic tells you that she wouldn't have written a note, left it with her daughter's body and then tried to claim that she had nothing to do with killing her...

Never even consider logic when it comes to murder. Most killings do not have any logic. Casey could have written a note to say something...I can see her doing that.

Casey lives in the moment.....she plans nothing.

 

[Tom'sGirl]

Some posts are just getting silly and off the topic of this thread which is to discuss the pending Duct tape info in the doc dump

 

[LCoastMom]

page 3174 says a dinner knife was in the car

no mention of the color of the tie on the black bag on the scene

 

[LinasK]

We need confirmation on the amount of duct tape used. The latest document dump states "a piece of silver duct tape was found over the mouth area". CNN states that here: http://insession.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/22/casey-blog-draft/

WKMG, who has sources telling them KC's fingerprints are not on the tape, says the tape was wrapped around the skull: http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18728295/detail.html

I don't know about y'all, but there's a big difference to me. A piece of tape over the mouth area suggests to me that Caylee was not conscious or was not alive (unless she was bound at her wrists as well, but evidence of that would have been found in the bag or in the area). If she had been conscious and not bound, she could have easily ripped it off. Much harder if it's wrapped around her head.

Easily? I think not. Have you much experience with duct tape? It's really strong stuff. Especially for a two-year-old with not much strength. I think she did use it on an alive Caylee to complete the suffocation process, once she chloroformed her with a rag.

 

[Psmith]

page 3174 says a dinner knife was in the car

no mention of the color of the tie on the black bag on the scene

The knife(--ives) always come(s) from the same evidence lot number.

 

[ecs5298]

That's an F for both wrong.

Haven't read ahead. But here goes

1. No knife found at dump site (one knife found in Pontiac Sunfire)

2. Color of handles not given on bag at dump scene (bag that contained items taken from Pontiac Sunfire was black with yellow handles)

 

[Rumpole]

page 3174 says a dinner knife was in the car

no mention of the color of the tie on the black bag on the scene

And to stay On Topic: the next document dump will provide even more questions and ambiguities!