What did the neighbor(s) hear?

[Mysterylover]

Kat, Thanks for the article.
I strongly disagree with what COURSEY says in quote. I have been told cadaver dogs do NOT hit on dead animals....imo
Quote:
COURSEY: Exactly right. Police are calling this an anomaly. They don't know why the dogs hit on the dumpster. Like I said, they didn't even find any dead animal. Sometimes these cadaver dogs will pick up on the scent of a dead animal. Go ahead.

 

[justus4all]

Emeralgem, Was this the same dumpster the LE did not check for 17 days?

It seems with all the dogs barking, women screaming and vehicles speeding
in and out of the MH park, there has to be a connection to H.'s disappearance.

I suspect it was Misty that screamed as she was later seen crying on a PHONE, outside the MH.

The vehicle headed via Buffalo Bluff Road. could that direction be a clue? was the convenience store in that direction?

It would seem to me...to be related...the dumpster ...according to the article
was hit on by 3 cadaver dogs..3 DIFFERENT TIMES...altho the area was searched...and the person hearing the vehicle stop at the dumpster...

The woman screaming ...could be a thousand theories...but IMO, the neighbor hearing the vehicle and later the dumpster being hit on...most LIKELY...are related...JMO...

 

[4Jacy]

I for one do not think or believe she is a cold hearted killer..Stooopid for going along with a cover up to protect Ronald Cummings, but not a killer..And If her neighbor heard her crying on the phone, I can believe it.. And I don't know who she was on the phone with either but it should have been LE telling them what really happened instead of plans to mislead LE...JMO

Em. I so agree. I don't think (or perhaps I don't want to think) this was a murder. Something happened that night, a mistake with medication; an altercation..but not murder. Ron knew it, I believe before he went to "werk" and had family members check in. I believe TN was the one that gave the orders that night. Everything that was done was to protect Ronald. I hope this isn't so, I would hate to believe that RC killed her! However, if he did "So be it."

I believe we are all adults here, with different backrounds then Misty had. She was 17, not well educated, and probably would go along with what a older person told her to do. Especially Ronald's mother.

JMOO

 

[justus4all]

The article is saying.... before tonight's there was really no reason to empty it. Tonight was the first time it was emptied due to the cadaver dogs hitting on it....BUT I am saying the area was searched..several times..but the dumpster NEVER emptied....to search for a missing child..I would imagine with the neighbor's statement of hearing a vehicle around the early A.m. and the dumpster being located just behind the C's, property's fence... Very convenient IF TRUE...and RELATED...I believe the reason the neighbor was alerted to the vehicle..at that time of the night...stopping at the dumpster..THE DUMPSTER is not typically used by the public..only by the construction folks..That might be why the LE NEVER checked it before the cadaver dogs...They figured it was NOT a public dumping place...I will now take my theory over to the theory thread...and post...YET ANOTHER THEORY....

 

[passionflower]

Great post MysteryLover. IMO, it all ties in together. There was something definitely going on around 2am. A few things that stand out to me is that Misty alibi, is that she slept from 10p-3a (she just so happens to wake up at 3). Ron's alibi, is that he worked until 3 (just so happens his normal shift would have ended at 12). Tommy now says that he was at the mh later than 10p. TN arrived in record time at 3:30a. It looks like everyone was trying to stay clear of placing themselves there at around 2a.

We got the neighbor hearing screams around 2:30a.

Misty is spotted by neighbors on her phone crying outside the mh around 3a.

If we go with the possible scenario of an Altercation: think about this

IMO, Ron was home much earlier than 3 (In Cobra's tapes:waitasec: LE seemed concerned about Ron arriving home at 3:25 and wanted to know what took him so long to get home) That tells me that they suspected he should've been home long before 3:25a.

If this altercation started around 2a- I think it was between Misty and Ron. Misty being who she is, called on her brother Tommy for help because he was the closest (on 911 call, Someone from Tyler admits to seeing Haleigh at around 2a-2:30a). Tommy get there and all hell breaks loose-which I think was the cause for the scratches on Ron's hands. Did we see any pictures of Tommy the next day? I wonder if he was scratched up too:waitasec:.
I believe, something made them all scatter at some point. Gunfire?? Crash?? They all scattered away from the mh on Green Ln. They knew that the police would be called (don't forget we're dealing with criminal minded people). IMO, (so he could be caught on camera and say that he stopped there on his wayTommy went back to his house, Ron drove to the store home from work), and I'm willing to bet that Misty went back to Tyler with her brother. I don't think Misty accompanied Ron to that store because she is seen pacing around the mh talking on the phone at 3a. I think at that point she was waiting there for Ron to return from the store and had no key to get back into the mh.

Didn't a neighbor also witness a red truck sitting by the railroad tracks that night?
Think about all the people who had gotten rid of their cars after Haleigh went missing: TN, Tommy, RC, and I think GMSykes. And then you have damage to Ron's altima and the blue van.

BBM, ITA with this theory........but now about Haleigh's disposal.
I can see the whole family there, a huge fight, and scattering like mice.
But who had time to dispose of the body between 2:30-3am????

 

[Kimster]

Reminder: there is a dogs/dumpster thread in Haleigh's forum. We can also ask Sarx to come in as she is a verified professional in that field.

Let's move back to what the neighbor's heard in this thread now. Thanks

 

[4Jacy]

Reminder: there is a dogs/dumpster thread in Haleigh's forum. We can also ask Sarx to come in as she is a verified professional in that field.

Let's move back to what the neighbor's heard in this thread now. Thanks

SOOOO sorry Kimster, I did go O/T. Please delete if you see fit. Sorry...:banghead:

 

[Zoe Bogart]

The woman seeing Misty outside on the telephone is very interesting. If she heard her crying, too, that says a lot. One would expect with all that commotion going on that night, some of the neighbors would have been chatting away. Then again, if they thought their lives were in danger..... I've always thought if it was T & J coming in causing a ruckus, someone else would have seen or heard them. :waitasec: They don't appear to be the quietest bunch. Or maybe it's just the women of the family with the voices.

 

[cj1132]

I keep my bedroom windows open year-round and I live in a state where it can get well below zero in the winter. On those days, my windows are open just a little but they are still open and on occasion, I do hear neighbors talking. Given that, I can definitely see the neighbor hearing a scream and hearing MC crying and talking on the phone. IMO, this is one time that I feel comfortable saying that MC was showing honest and true emotion.

 

[Kimster]

SOOOO sorry Kimster, I did go O/T. Please delete if you see fit. Sorry...:banghead:

It's okay. It was an understandable progression that was ready to go too far, but hadn't quite yet. :wink:

 

[Buterflytat]

Em. I so agree. I don't think (or perhaps I don't want to think) this was a murder. Something happened that night, a mistake with medication; an altercation..but not murder. Ron knew it, I believe before he went to "werk" and had family members check in. I believe TN was the one that gave the orders that night. Everything that was done was to protect Ronald. I hope this isn't so, I would hate to believe that RC killed her! However, if he did "So be it."

I believe we are all adults here, with different backrounds then Misty had. She was 17, not well educated, and probably would go along with what a older person told her to do. Especially Ronald's mother.

JMOO

I think you are correct in your hypothesis of what ocurred that night. This has been my thoughts as well. I do not think she was hurt intentionally, but accidentally.
This is a crazy case, with an even crazier bunch of players; I don't know what to think. They are all drug addled liars.

 

[Kat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDUDIsp9xQM

I apologize if we have this video already on this thead. It is an interview with the man next door to the MH that heard the scream.

 

[gngr~snap]

I think you are correct in your hypothesis of what ocurred that night. This has been my thoughts as well. I do not think she was hurt intentionally, but accidentally.
This is a crazy case, with an even crazier bunch of players; I don't know what to think. They are all drug addled liars.

IF it was an accident invoving drugs and the players got rid of her to avoid jail time Guess What? IT DID NOT WORK! They ended up in jail anyway~

MOO ...it's was more sinister than that... like he f-d up with the abuse of Haleigh( regardless of who did the deed) it went too far and was being covered up so Ron wouldn't lose Jr too. All he wanted was to keep Jr away from Crystal... to me IMO it was always just a game to him. IMO Ron cared more about "winning" the game even if it meant he lost a child in the process.

OOPs wrong thread mods please delete!