What do you think could be done to break this case?

[ilovemew]

Like our dear local member told us long ago...

Follow the money.

Thx, dude. Cripes, can't believe I didn't see that a year ago, but you were right.... kind of.

do you mean the money Ron was desperatly trying to get together before Feb. 9th? Or the money he supposedly robbed from someone at gunpoint? Do fill us in our dear LF!

 

[LFlorida]

do you mean the money Ron was desperatly trying to get together before Feb. 9th? Or the money he supposedly robbed from someone at gunpoint? Do fill us in our dear LF!

I'm just saying that people rely on debit and credit cards so much now that

following the banking transactions,
pulling the sales info from stores close to Satsuma, PDM, and Lady Lake
viewing the store/gas station surveillance vids

will help put together that little piece of the timeline that LE is missing.

Yes, this is investigation 101, but LE had to have probable cause to get search warrants and subpoena financial records of certain persons around the case if those persons did not willingly hand them over.

NOTE - GREAT NEWS IN JAX MISSING INFANT CASE!

 

[debs]

I'm just saying that people rely on debit and credit cards so much now that

following the banking transactions,
pulling the sales info from stores close to Satsuma, PDM, and Lady Lake
viewing the store/gas station surveillance vids

will help put together that little piece of the timeline that LE is missing.

Yes, this is investigation 101, but LE had to have probable cause to get search warrants and subpoena financial records of certain persons around the case if those persons did not willingly hand them over.

NOTE - GREAT NEWS IN JAX MISSING INFANT CASE!

There is no way this information can be known to the public until LE releases it, and since they're keeping Haleigh's case a tight-to-the-vest investigation, it will only be when charges are made that we'll find out whether they have anything on this at all.

 

[doobiedoo52]

As to following the money, it WOULD be nice to know just when TN moved into her luxury digs in Lady Lake. Was she already there when Haleigh went missing? And yet she puts "the shared address" on the official report. And didn't her boyfriend get prosecuted for writing a bad check that same day? If LE knew nothing about the luxury address, could Haleigh have been hidden there for awhile?

 

[LFlorida]

There is no way this information can be known to the public until LE releases it, and since they're keeping Haleigh's case a tight-to-the-vest investigation, it will only be when charges are made that we'll find out whether they have anything on this at all.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean us. I meant what I think LE can do to break this case. [Really, I'm sorry, I'm having a major problem with communicating accurately lately.]

 

[pittsburghgirl]

To answer the original question: Keep the principals and their hangers-on in jail. Then do what Marc Klaas said the other night on NG: investigate Misty's drug bender weekend. I would also add: find out who was in the trailer that day, starting at noon. Were any of Misty's weekend buddies there? Her brothers? Cousin Joe? Can a "last seen" time be established for Haleigh? It's still about the investigation. My guess is that they have a key to the puzzle and may not know it.

 

[ThommyMac]

After your pre-trial conference is over, charges are cut in stone and the plea bargain process begins in earnest. For your humble narrator, THAT was the moment reality really sunk in. In a scary pantomime of the bidding process, the numbers start on the high end. Granted that most 18 years olds do not have the best grasp of time, (I was 38), the weight of the numbers tossed around should be a cold splash for her. When she hears figures equal to her entire life so far and another two years on top, maybe the concrete nature of her problems will finally be felt. It seems pretty clear that appealing to the better nature(s) of the cast of characters is going nowhere.

 

[TxLady2]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean us. I meant what I think LE can do to break this case. [Really, I'm sorry, I'm having a major problem with communicating accurately lately.]

Nothing wrong with your communication skills, LF. I was under the impression that's what this thread is about... what LE can do to break the case.... not what WE can do.

Last I heard they were not sure what crime was committed. They can't say for certain whether she is alive or dead. Without a body, they have to have some other evidence to prove what happened. If they had been able to find Haleigh within the first days or weeks, then it would have been simpler. As it is, how are they going to charge somebody when they can't even determine if she is dead, or how she died?

I keep thinking about Misty saying she would tell Cobra (I think it was him) something and it would make the cops look stupid. Imagine how that would look if they charged someone with murder and a short time later Haleigh turned up alive.

I would say that the best thing that could speed it up, is to find Haleigh.

 

[Bobbisangel]

It's not hate..........it's seeing what's right before your eyes. Does LE hate Ron? You just look where the facts take you.

What makes you think that LE hate Ron? They have said loud and clear that he is not a suspect...that he has been cleared...he was at work all late afternoon and night. He was seen on video at work from what I understand. What facts?

I think people dislike Ron because he is rough around the edges. He isn't grieving the way a lot of people think he should and he wasn't out night and day looking for Haleigh...although we really don't know what he was doing or how he grieved when not on video or around people.

Ron has made some bad choices in his life and he is paying for those now. If drugs had anything to do with Haleigh being taken then Ron will have to live with that for the rest of his life. All in all, I don't think he is any worse then a lot of young people who have gone down the wrong road. I don't believe for a minute that he had anything to do with Haleigh missing. If LE don't believe he did then who am I to think that he did. LE know a lot more then we do about this whole case and they say Ron is not a suspect.

 

[lil momma]

i think that LE has everyone right where they want them, for now. I think LE has been playing "word" games with everyone. IMO, it is very telling that Misty has never been a POI, but THE KEY.

I think if LE let them dry out a little longer, apply some preasure by turning them all against each other, since they can't talk to one another anyways, i think the truth might come out. They should tell Ron that Misty confessed and is blaming him, and let him stew on that a bit, and they should tell Misty that Ron confessed and is blaming her, then let them sit in seperate interrogation rooms. While LE sits and watches them on video. JMO

 

[LoveEndsWar]

What makes you think that LE hate Ron? They have said loud and clear that he is not a suspect...that he has been cleared...he was at work all late afternoon and night. He was seen on video at work from what I understand. What facts?

I think people dislike Ron because he is rough around the edges. He isn't grieving the way a lot of people think he should and he wasn't out night and day looking for Haleigh...although we really don't know what he was doing or how he grieved when not on video or around people.

Ron has made some bad choices in his life and he is paying for those now. If drugs had anything to do with Haleigh being taken then Ron will have to live with that for the rest of his life. All in all, I don't think he is any worse then a lot of young people who have gone down the wrong road. I don't believe for a minute that he had anything to do with Haleigh missing. If LE don't believe he did then who am I to think that he did. LE know a lot more then we do about this whole case and they say Ron is not a suspect.

He is at the bottom of the list but on the list nonetheless. Just sayin.

 

[Emeralgem]

He is at the bottom of the list but on the list nonetheless. Just sayin.

But thats according to Shoemaker..Personally I suspect he is at the top of the list since he has NOT been cleared by LE...JMO

 

[Skully]

But thats according to Shoemaker..Personally I suspect he is at the top of the list since he has NOT been cleared by LE...JMO

Personally, I would like to know how long this list is? If it has two names on it, well, being at the bottom doesn't mean much. LOL

 

[debs]

What makes you think that LE hate Ron? They have said loud and clear that he is not a suspect...that he has been cleared...he was at work all late afternoon and night. He was seen on video at work from what I understand. What facts?

LE has stated that "At this time, Ron Cummings is not a suspect..." which isn't a free pass. His lawyer makes the statement that he's moved from the top of the list (when LE was stating at this time...) to the bottom of the list.....but he's on the list. I'm sure I'll bore you with the intricate nature of semantics so I'll suffice to say that Ron Cummings is indeed suspect in the disappearance of his child.

Further, where is this video from work? Who said he was seen on that video? I don't believe anyone contends that at some point, RC was at his place of employment. What is heavily contested is the length of time he was there, when he arrived, and when he left, or if he left, and came back, and left again.

I think people dislike Ron because he is rough around the edges. He isn't grieving the way a lot of people think he should and he wasn't out night and day looking for Haleigh...although we really don't know what he was doing or how he grieved when not on video or around people.

It would be shallow indeed to dislike him for his roughness. But it is not shallow to believe that a man who gets tattoos, engaged, married, and travels to NYC for an interview where he offers no information at all, who supported the "key" to the investigation and her statements, who says he never questioned her about what happened because "he was at work".....well, I beg to differ about why you assume people dislike RC. For myself, I don't dislike him at all. I find him reprehensible, but I don't have to like or dislike him.

Ron has made some bad choices in his life and he is paying for those now. If drugs had anything to do with Haleigh being taken then Ron will have to live with that for the rest of his life. All in all, I don't think he is any worse then a lot of young people who have gone down the wrong road. I don't believe for a minute that he had anything to do with Haleigh missing. If LE don't believe he did then who am I to think that he did. LE know a lot more then we do about this whole case and they say Ron is not a suspect.

All of the choices he made in those few days leading up to Haleigh's disappearance are not merely bad.........they were catastrophic. From chasing Misty all weekend to allowing her back into his home to watch his children......catastrophic, and most likely fatal choices. I'm sure he'll live with that all his life, but it's of no concern to me, for as he says "Only God Can Judge Me" and I agree with him wholeheartedly there.

Those choices, though, are directly related to Haleigh missing. For months, he and his mother excused Misty's extreme tiredness as a result of them being up all night, when the truth of it was she was up for at least 3 nights prior, partying like a rock star. To minimize that......I'll spare you my notion of just how reprehensible that is.

 

[Maryann123]

From ClickOrlando.com on March 4th, 2009

When police were asked about those concerns, they said that no one is a suspect and no one has been ruled out in the disappearance of Haleigh, who vanished from her home in the middle of the night more than three weeks ago.

http://www.artharris.com/2010/02/03...ut-no-one-ruled-out-in-haleigh-cummings-case/

Posted Feb 3, 2010

But Hardy warned against “tunnel vision,” and said no one has been ruled out in the massive effort to find Haleigh Cummings or learn what happened to her, in our wide-ranging 30 minute interview. “Everyone keeps saying, ‘Misty, Misty,’ but we’re not just focusing on the one person who is being reported on,” he told me.

 

[Maryann123]

I forgot to add that this was posted on the 3rd of Feb. 2010, but the interview took place on the Wednesday prior to that.

In an exclusive interview with The Bald Truth Wednesday, Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy said............
It doesn't sound like the sheriff is convinced Misty is "the one" but she could still hold the key without being "the one." If that makes sense.

 

[Beatrice]

What Do You Think Will Break This Case?

Keep Misty thinking she will be bonded out
and living a life of freedom if she talks.

 

[elle1919]

pressure on Chelsea and Timmy Croslin....I was reminded today of the fight with L Brooks and Chelsea C....

here: http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

UCN: 542008MM003941XXAXMX
File Date: 2008-10-06 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:

Defendant
CROSLIN, CHELSEA
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2008-10-06 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO/ 09-25-08
2008-10-06 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2008-10-06 1 BATTERY/ LISA BROOKS
2009-04-30 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO CT I - BATTERY
2009-05-07 3 COPY OF NO INFORMATION RETURENED UNEXECUTED

SOMEONE trying to protect Misty again or maybe it isn't Misty she has been protecting all year. JMO

 

[Baznme]

Christmas Day still has me bugged as to where RC was that he went to talk to Haleigh. Where was he? Did anyone see him? Does LE know where he went? Of all the holidays of the year, that day in particular seemed very important to Haleigh. Of course, it is to most children.

In the video footage we've seen, she seemed happy with whatever gift she received. If they could pinpoint where he went on that day, I think it may yield some clues as to where she is.

 

[Baznme]

pressure on Chelsea and Timmy Croslin....I was reminded today of the fight with L Brooks and Chelsea C....

here: http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

UCN: 542008MM003941XXAXMX
File Date: 2008-10-06 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:

Defendant
CROSLIN, CHELSEA
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2008-10-06 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO/ 09-25-08
2008-10-06 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A
2008-10-06 1 BATTERY/ LISA BROOKS
2009-04-30 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO CT I - BATTERY
2009-05-07 3 COPY OF NO INFORMATION RETURENED UNEXECUTED

SOMEONE trying to protect Misty again or maybe it isn't Misty she has been protecting all year. JMO

I am not seeing how this ties to MC. It was before RC knew MC. Am I missing something?