What do you think could be done to break this case?

[LFlorida]

Just thinking here, but I don't see Ronald or Misty even having a checking account.

PDM wages would have been via check or direct deposit.

There are plenty of other financial activities to examine, also. Not just Ron & Misty, but Granny & Tee & JH, the Croslins, the Cummings, etc...

There are TracPhones and phone cards. Payments for doctor visits, school lunches, electronics. All kinds of stuff to be had from financial data. Unless they were smart enough to remove every receipt from every vehicle and every room in the m/h, those could help re-trace their activities in the days and weeks leading up to the night Haleigh was reported missing.

If I asked you what you did 2 years ago, what would be the best way for you [or me] to figure that out? [OK, besides internet activity, lol]

 

[lonetraveler]

After watching as many of the jail videos as I could stand I've come to the conclusion that Misty needs to be put into absolute isolation in order to give her time for her to REALLY, REALLY think about what she needs to do about Haleigh. I have seen her frantic and begging for phone minutes and for her family to come see her every single time that visitation is allowed. I have seen her demand that she be out of jail. Have a few hissy fits and all. I've seen her cry about being in jail and not being able to be out of her cell so that she could interact with other inmates. Eager for any word about Ron and what is going on. I think that if any and all communication with her family and the outside is cut off, then she will go ballistic and be begging to talk with LE. As long as she can get little tidbits of messages from Ron, be it on Nancy Grace, from family or from the newspapers, then she will hold out and not talk. If she is isolated she will talk. That is my opinion based upon her actions since being in jail.

 

[4Jacy]

PDM wages would have been via check or direct deposit.

There are plenty of other financial activities to examine, also. Not just Ron & Misty, but Granny & Tee & JH, the Croslins, the Cummings, etc...

There are TracPhones and phone cards. Payments for doctor visits, school lunches, electronics. All kinds of stuff to be had from financial data. Unless they were smart enough to remove every receipt from every vehicle and every room in the m/h, those could help re-trace their activities in the days and weeks leading up to the night Haleigh was reported missing.

If I asked you what you did 2 years ago, what would be the best way for you [or me] to figure that out? [OK, besides internet activity, lol]

As always, you are too smart and right on top of everything. Thanks, I always appreciate your posts.

By the way, I could absolutely pinpoint where I was 2 years ago because I live 10 ft. from a river (it's beautiful here, really), but sometimes it floods. When that happens you have to have a dated receipt for everything so you can collect on your insurance. It hasn't flooded in a few years and believe me, I have every receipt. Just to let people know, I have never relied on FEMA. I have my own personal flood insurance, and it is beyond expensive!!!

 

[SoSueMe]

I go back and forth on what could make Misty talk. She certainly panics when isolated, which means she loves being around other people.

I do think LE needs to put heavy public pressure on Ron and Misty. Then I might put Misty in general population where she would be badgered by other inmates to stop covering for Ron and tell the truth as to what happened to the baby.

We've already heard Tommy say people yell out at him all the time, "where's that baby?" I'm not so sure Misty could take this kind of pressure from her peers. She wants to socialize and be liked, so it might take this type of pressure to break her.

Geez, what is there to lose at this point?

 

[Kimster]

Realizing we have discussed this before, IMO Misty isn't going to say anything when she fears telling what happened will give her more time than what she is facing now.

The only thing I see breaking the case is if they promise her less time for her involvement in Haleigh's disappearance. I can't decide if that is a good idea or not. In fact, it might be the subject for a whole new thread!

 

[LFlorida]

There are so many things that LE could have done that may have helped break this case. There must be a good reason why they haven't, but dammed if I can figure out why. [I'm thinking about addressing Ron's werk schedule, Teresa's address and employment, who's lied, etc.]

Hopefully when (if) there is finally an arreat, we will all say, "No wonder!" and "Of course! That makes perfect sense."


Right now, though, I'm like the rest of y'all.

What are they doing?

What have they already done?​

Why aren't they telling us anything?

What do they know?​

We need a Richard Hornsby over here. And a Yuri. And a Kathy Bellich. [sorry for any misspelling] Well, maybe not... there's got to be a reason we are kept in the dark about this information. Hopefully that reason is to get

Justice for Haleigh.

 

[doobiedoo52]

ITA. Yeah, we've had drug busts, but they are not finding Haleigh. Just how long does it take for this to become a cold case? I don't think anyone is going to talk. It has taken a year for authorities to even state that they feel there was foul play. Before this, police seemed to think she was still alive somewhere. If she's anywhere, I would guess Kentucky. But, after all this time, we have to assume the worst. Maybe if we had a hint to what the little piece of information they needed was about, someone could help. But the way everything's been handled so secretly makes it difficult. I have a feeling some of us members know as much about these families, etc as what LE does. JMO.

 

[bessie]

Drive a wedge between Ron and Teresa. Make him see that by engineering this cover up she's failed him once again, the same way she did when she abandoned him as a child. (No matter what the circumstances were back then, I guarantee that's the way he sees it.) Allow him to realize that Haleigh was the true love of his life, a source of pure joy who never hurt him, and whose memory should not be tarnished by lies. Similar thoughts might already be running through his head, but a little encouragement by an understanding investigator could help them along. He's facing a long prison term, one way or the other. Having guilt gnaw away at him won't make it easier.

 

[LaLaw2000]

I am not sure what more could be done to break this case, but I do feel that we will have a break soon.

I have to believe that will happen.

 

[Peliman]

Polygraphs, who's taken them? Who hasn't? Who said they passed? LE hasn't said, only TM. Not admissible no, but very telling who's cooperating. Line up folks, clear your suspicion.

 

[Concerned Papa]

Polygraphs, who's taken them? Who hasn't? Who said they passed? LE hasn't said, only TM. Not admissible no, but very telling who's cooperating. Line up folks, clear your suspicion.

Something that's very telling to me about these "innocent" "we all passed" polygraphs is that LE isn't saying anything of the sort.

If I'm an innocent person, I'll take all the poly's they want to give me but ONLY with the caveat that my results must be made public immediately. There's no way I'm going to have a cloud of suspicion hanging over my head in the small community I live in on whether or not I harmed my own child.

I don't see how any of them could pass a polygraph based on the changing stories that have come out from every one of them.

 

[Beatrice]

Pin one against the other...

Misty says "I love Ronald" Tell her RC says "Go to hell"

The same with all of them......

 

[snookie]

Pin one against the other...

Misty says "I love Ronald" Tell her RC says "Go to hell"

The same with all of them......

Send Misty a picture of another girl who just so happens to have Ronald Cummings Sr. tattooed on her backside too. :innocent:

 

[lonetraveler]

Realizing we have discussed this before, IMO Misty isn't going to say anything when she fears telling what happened will give her more time than what she is facing now.

The only thing I see breaking the case is if they promise her less time for her involvement in Haleigh's disappearance. I can't decide if that is a good idea or not. In fact, it might be the subject for a whole new thread!

You know I've got to agree with you on this idea. Misty hasn't cracked yet and that says a lot. To me it says that she was more involved than I first thought. At this point maybe she knows that she is better off keeping her mouth shut. Maybe you are right, maybe she needs a little sweetening of the pot, so to speak. With her continuing love and loyalty to Ron it is going to take a lot to get her to spill the beans. This case is really getting to me. I just learned a few minutes ago that Amber Dubois' body was found. Then I read about this case and it is really making me very angry with the whole bunch. I know it is illegal but I'm willing to cut a switch and switch Misty a few stripes at this moment..............I'm going to try and just read right now.

 

[lonetraveler]

There are so many things that LE could have done that may have helped break this case. There must be a good reason why they haven't, but dammed if I can figure out why. [I'm thinking about addressing Ron's werk schedule, Teresa's address and employment, who's lied, etc.]

Hopefully when (if) there is finally an arreat, we will all say, "No wonder!" and "Of course! That makes perfect sense."


Right now, though, I'm like the rest of y'all.

What are they doing?

What have they already done?​

Why aren't they telling us anything?

What do they know?​

We need a Richard Hornsby over here. And a Yuri. And a Kathy Bellich. [sorry for any misspelling] Well, maybe not... there's got to be a reason we are kept in the dark about this information. Hopefully that reason is to get

Justice for Haleigh.

I thinnk that LE's decision not to inform the public of what they have or not have as far as evidence, totally dried up the possibility of anyone coming forth with any information at all, therefore the public knows almost nothing about this case and LE, in my opinon knows the same. It has been a little more than one year. Except for the fact that Haleigh's father and his cousin, his girlfriend and her brother and a friend of Haleigh's girlfriend dealing drugs, we know absolutely nothing. Well, I will add that we found along the way that Ron attempted to contact Misty many, many multiple times that night, Tommy was at Ron's residence that night around 10 pm and there is a blanket that "they" took. And don't let me forget about the gun that was
"stolen" that night and recovered by Ron's mental abilities the evening after reproting Haleigh missing. Other than that? Nothing really. So, how has the "holding close to the vest" approach worked?

 

[Peliman]

Something that's very telling to me about these "innocent" "we all passed" polygraphs is that LE isn't saying anything of the sort.

If I'm an innocent person, I'll take all the poly's they want to give me but ONLY with the caveat that my results must be made public immediately. There's no way I'm going to have a cloud of suspicion hanging over my head in the small community I live in on whether or not I harmed my own child.

I don't see how any of them could pass a polygraph based on the changing stories that have come out from every one of them.

Early on it was reported by LE that once polygraphs in missing children's cases were administered and then sent to quantico FBI for further analysis as a double check for results. Going off memory here and results were (my words here,) inconclusive results were not released. IMO

 

[whovillebaby]

I wonder if LE has thought to set Misty aside "out of the picture, and tell Ron "we know Misty is innocent, we're going to let her go".
"we think that you RON, being Haleigh's father should be the one the help us finally find your daughter"
"Although you were at work the night she went missing, you must surely know who took her".
Huuuuummmmmm.......
LE must have his time in and out at work that night, and all of the calls he made that night, we don't, but they must.......

I do think the house was given the once over before they called the police, the freak out phase that night.
The gun taken out, any weed & pills removed, anything that would raise a red flag as to RON not being responsible enough to have custody of the kids.
Ron has everyone envolved wrapped around his finger and caught in his web.
When he realized that those who took Haleigh lived up to their "threat" he used Misty to cover up the truth. NOT that Misty is an innocent party, but I don't think she would have ever hurt Haleigh.
JMO

 

[butterfly1978]

I have thought LONG and hard about this, and I have decided I know how to solve this case. The state needs to release every bit of information in the case to us, here at websleuth and then we will solve this case for them, in two days we could tell them who did it, why they did it, when they did it, how they did it and the name of their distant ancestors!!!!!

RELEASE ALL THE EVIDENCE, STATEMENTS, EVERYTHING!!!!

 

[Kimster]

I have thought LONG and hard about this, and I have decided I know how to solve this case. The state needs to release every bit of information in the case to us, here at websleuth and then we will solve this case for them, in two days we could tell them who did it, why they did it, when they did it, how they did it and the name of their distant ancestors!!!!!

RELEASE ALL THE EVIDENCE, STATEMENTS, EVERYTHING!!!!

:floorlaugh:

 

[azwriter]

I have thought LONG and hard about this, and I have decided I know how to solve this case. The state needs to release every bit of information in the case to us, here at websleuth and then we will solve this case for them, in two days we could tell them who did it, why they did it, when they did it, how they did it and the name of their distant ancestors!!!!!

RELEASE ALL THE EVIDENCE, STATEMENTS, EVERYTHING!!!!

Oh butterfly, you dreamer. I love your suggestion. :blowkiss: