What happened to Rebecca Zahau?

[Inparadise]

I would imagine many things changed as a result of there being no Max. May he Rest in Peace. Alimony- maybe not, but child support and expenses- definitely. If you think about that and the % of $ ( whatever that is) in light of JS' company going public- that week and what it would have meant if they were still married- or if MS was still a recipient of $ and lifestyle, I think the stakes, anger and motives- were very high for certain family members.JMOO

This thought makes me a little nauseous.
Sometimes I wish Gloria Alred would come help RZ.

God Bless RZ and MAxi and their families. All of them.

Gloria was the one who "broke" Dina's prenup.........wonder why she is not at Dina's side in this mess, as she so loves the spotlight?

 

[freespeech]

At one time or another I believed Rebecca was killed in a revengeful rage and that fluctuated with being killed to silenced her.

However, now I wonder if both could be true. Could a coldly calculating individual who wanted Rebecca silenced be genius enough to use another person whom they also wanted gone to do the deed. The cold person would benefit without dirtying their hands and kill two birds with one stone.

 

[Inparadise]

at one time or another i believed rebecca was killed in a revengeful rage and that fluctuated with being killed to silenced her.

However, now i wonder if both could be true. Could a coldly calculating individual who wanted rebecca silenced be genius enough to use another person whom they also wanted gone to do the deed. The cold person would benefit without dirtying their hands and kill two birds with one stone.

imo, absolutely!

 

[time]

At one time or another I believed Rebecca was killed in a revengeful rage and that fluctuated with being killed to silenced her.

However, now I wonder if both could be true. Could a coldly calculating individual who wanted Rebecca silenced be genius enough to use another person whom they also wanted gone to do the deed. The cold person would benefit without dirtying their hands and kill two birds with one stone.

I can appreciate the theory and think it's possible, but in my opinion, he didn't do that. Recent media coverage also just solidifies this for me as I think a different tact would be taken if there were no guilt and a request to open Rebecca's case would have been made. You could say it wasn't because of fear of where the evidence leads, but I think that fear is because someone knows darn well who did it.

To add, I don't think JS orchestrated a late night visit(s) and call and did all t his by having an alibi while also orchestrating that someone(s) didn't. That doesn't make sense to me. If anything, it looks to me like someone maybe tried to set up AS... doubt that was JS? I'm still out on whether AS in someway aided the killing or coverup and whether JS aided in a coverup because the deal was done and he was saving his reputation/company from a very horrible and weird murder being in the news.

 

[time]

K_Z... I totally agree. I think there may be a few people who would say, I think Rebecca committed suicide because, but, otherwise, why so much investment in those who think she was murdered.

" Frankly, I wonder why they aren't just happy they got away with it?"

Me, too :waitasec:

 

[Inparadise]

K_Z... I totally agree. I think there may be a few people who would say, I think Rebecca committed suicide because, but, otherwise, why so much investment in those who think she was murdered.

" Frankly, I wonder why they aren't just happy they got away with it?"

Me, too :waitasec:

They got away with it so far.........but that certainly may change.

 

[time]

They got away with it so far.........but that certainly may change.

I think that very well could change. I believe there is a lot of evidence we don't know about. All they need is enough to get it reopened. And, in this case, I think most people find a suicide just totally unbelievable.

 

[K_Z]

They got away with it so far.........but that certainly may change.

Well, if ever anyone IS charged with Rebecca's murder, the multitude of evidence at the scene sure persuades me that premeditated first degree murder could be the most appropriate charge, imo. And California has the death penalty, so it could be a DP case. I'd be fine with 2nd degree murder, too.

If someone who is alive knows something about Rebecca's death, that is a pretty powerful motivator for them to chase the story until it dies and is forgotton, to squelch any discussions anywhere that even hint that suicide is not what happened. Otherwise, why care? Why be so frantic, so ruthless, so nasty? Because it sure seems to me that a small group of "suicide supporters" are desperately afraid Rebecca's case could be reopened. I do sense fear in some of these people-- anger and fear, and indignance.

I think there's a lot of hubris floating around this case.

 

[inthedark14]

Well, if ever anyone IS charged with Rebecca's murder, the multitude of evidence at the scene sure persuades me that premeditated first degree murder could be the most appropriate charge, imo. And California has the death penalty, so it could be a DP case. I'd be fine with 2nd degree murder, too.

If someone who is alive knows something about Rebecca's death, that is a pretty powerful motivator for them to chase the story until it dies and is forgotton, to squelch any discussions anywhere that even hint that suicide is not what happened. Otherwise, why care? Why be so frantic, so ruthless, so nasty? Because it sure seems to me that a small group of "suicide supporters" are desperately afraid Rebecca's case could be reopened. I do sense fear in some of these people-- anger and fear, and indignance.

I think there's a lot of hubris floating around this case.

K_Z ITA
It is positively shocking the amount of hate and anger directed at a dead woman. There is at least one website dedicated to exactly that. But what really shocks me is that with all of the seemingly organized hatred NONE of it is directed at JS, who DS stated by many many MSM accounts was not to leave her son alone with RZ. There must be some reason for no extreme bashing of the dad. If you're playing the blame game, why leave out the actual parent who left the child in the care of someone his mother did not approve of if?

Always MOO

 

[Zinn]

K_Z ITA
It is positively shocking the amount of hate and anger directed at a dead woman. There is at least one website dedicated to exactly that. But what really shocks me is that with all of the seemingly organized hatred NONE of it is directed at JS, who DS stated by many many MSM accounts was not to leave her son alone with RZ. There must be some reason for no extreme bashing of the dad. If you're playing the blame game, why leave out the actual parent who left the child in the care of someone his mother did not approve of if?

Always MOO

I suspect the scene of Rebecca's death was an act of violence against both Rebecca and JS. And I have wondered if perhaps JS' reaction to that event was not emotionally satisfying to someone who might have intended to wound him.

Just my opinion.

 

[freespeech]

I can appreciate the theory and think it's possible, but in my opinion, he didn't do that. Recent media coverage also just solidifies this for me as I think a different tact would be taken if there were no guilt and a request to open Rebecca's case would have been made. You could say it wasn't because of fear of where the evidence leads, but I think that fear is because someone knows darn well who did it.

To add, I don't think JS orchestrated a late night visit(s) and call and did all t his by having an alibi while also orchestrating that someone(s) didn't. That doesn't make sense to me. If anything, it looks to me like someone maybe tried to set up AS... doubt that was JS? I'm still out on whether AS in someway aided the killing or coverup and whether JS aided in a coverup because the deal was done and he was saving his reputation/company from a very horrible and weird murder being in the news.

It bothers me that Jonah, Dina and Nina cannot get their stories straight about what time they were at the hospital on Tuesday. That and the confusion as to when who knew what about Max coupled with Nina's questionable statements about Jonah seemingly being the one in control of the crisis makes me wonder who was detached enough to pull all the strings in his favor.

Also, i see the argument about saving his reputation and company stocks from disaster as powerful motive not only for Jonah but anyone else who was heavily invested in Medicis stock.

Since Jonah bought the accident theory of Max's injury at least as far as we know why would he promote the CPR within two minutes meme to Dina and Nina according to Nina's statements in her interview. Jonah must have known promoting that was like poking a tiger with a stick. He had to have known about Dina's proclivity to react with passion and possibly violence from his own experiences. He alleged that Dina had physically attacked him on numerous occasions. Why would he set Rebecca up to be the recipient Dina's rage? Imo,there must have been a reason.

According to Nina, Jonah is very smart, a genius even. I believe that he has what he does today by by sheer will and desire for material wealth and power. I also don't believe he likes or gets along well with women based on his MSM history. Possibly he got along better with Rebecca because she had a sweet nature, idk. Imho.

 

[freespeech]

Why would Rebecca loosely bind her arms behind her back and tie her feet together, gag her mouth and choke herself with a tee shirt?

If her arms were loosely bound then she could get out of it if she changed her mind. If she was the superwoman some say she was then she could have pulled her self up the rope so that explanation does not make sense.

In addition, there was no proof that her arms were loosely bound. I do not believe in the complete integrity of Jonathan Lucas because of his questionable presser presentation that the blue tee was wrapped loosely around her neck. Why cut it off then? Why not just unwrap the thing. I also question his promotion afterwards. jmho.

 

[Salem]

I'm removing all this property stuff and who owns what where. None of it pertains to what happened to RZ.

ALSO - do not post addresses on here and be careful who you are calling a liar. If you are going to accuse someone, you need a link in your post to back it up.

Salem

 

[time]

It bothers me that Jonah, Dina and Nina cannot get their stories straight about what time they were at the hospital on Tuesday. That and the confusion as to when who knew what about Max coupled with Nina's questionable statements about Jonah seemingly being the one in control of the crisis makes me wonder who was detached enough to pull all the strings in his favor.

Also, i see the argument about saving his reputation and company stocks from disaster as powerful motive not only for Jonah but anyone else who was heavily invested in Medicis stock.

Since Jonah bought the accident theory of Max's injury at least as far as we know why would he promote the CPR within two minutes meme to Dina and Nina according to Nina's statements in her interview. Jonah must have known promoting that was like poking a tiger with a stick. He had to have known about Dina's proclivity to react with passion and possibly violence from his own experiences. He alleged that Dina had physically attacked him on numerous occasions. Why would he set Rebecca up to be the recipient Dina's rage? Imo,there must have been a reason.

BBM - we don't really know what he said! I've said this before. I think Rebecca administered resuscitation breaths as best she could or tried. There is no reason to think XZ was not telling the truth and the story as it was unfolding on the 911 call. Like I said, it could be like a phone tree and somehow Rebecca trying to give life saving breaths (given it may not have even been possible to accomplish) at some point down the lines turns into Nina and Dina's account. I don't think we can point the finger at Jonah for doing something wrong or goading Dina based on what we know.

 

[freespeech]

Actually if you listen to Nina's interview you will hear her state more than once that Jonah told Dina that Rebecca told him she gave CPR within two minutes. That was a big theme in her interview.

However, we don't know what anyone said is true. The police did an inadequate investigation and derived their conclusions based on invalidated statements given by Jonah, Dina, Nina and Adam. None of any of the prime "witnesses" passed a LDT. None had their alibis validated except for one claim of Jonah on surveillance tape, no time given, a cell phone ping for Dina and an inconclusive LDT for Adam.

On the other hand an eye witness who positively identified Dina at the mansion on the night of Rebecca's murder, several witnesses who reported loud music and a witnesses who reported a scream for help were all discounted by the police. All the loud music and scream reports occurred after Dina was seen on the property.

All these witnesses were were discounted in favor of the police believing the conflicting and unverified stories of the prime "witnesses". Hmmm.

Since Rebecca's murder occurred after Max's fall in Jonah's house and Jonah was home that morning then he knows what happened. He does not have an alibi except for his own statements. A lot more happened in that house the morning of Max's accident than what Jonah admits and Jonah absolutely without any doubt in my mind knows what happened. Imo, he has most likely played Dina by not being honest about what he knows about the morning of Max's accident and also may have disseminated incorrect medical information about Max's condition to rile her.

Imo, Jonah's buddies Gore and Dumanis are not interested in what Jonah did or didn't know that morning. Max had an accident and Rebecca killed herself afterwards. That's their story and they're sticking to it. Period. End of story.

It is painfully obvious that none of these people that have rushed to label this woman as a suicide give a flying leap about truth or justice, imo.

 

[justice be served]

We don't know what anyone said is true or who if anyone is telling the truth. The police did an inadequate investigation and derived their conclusions based on invalidated statements given by Jonah, Dina, Nina and Adam. None of any of the prime "witnesses" passed a LDT. None had their alibis validated except for one claim of Jonah on surveillance tape, no time given, a cell phone ping for Dina and an inconclusive LDT for Adam.

On the other hand an eye witness who positively identified Dina at the mansion on the night of Rebecca's murder was discounted by police. There were several witnesses who reported loud music and a witnesses who reported a scream for help. All this occurred after Dina was reportedly seen on the property. All these witnesses were were discounted in favor of believing the conflicting and unverified stories of the prime "witnesses".

Since Rebecca's murder occurred after Max's fall in Jonah's house and Jonah was home that morning then he knows what happened. He does not have an alibi expect for his own statements. A lot more happened in that house the morning of Max's accident that what Jonah admits and Jonah absolutely without any doubt in my mind knows what happened. Imo, he has most likely played Dina by not being honest about what he knows about the morning of Max's accident and also may have disseminated incorrect medical information about Max's condition to rile her.

Imo, Jonah's buddies Gore and Dumanis are not interested in what Jonah did or didn't know that morning. Max had an accident and Rebecca killed herself afterwards. That's their story and they're sticking to it. Period. End of story.

It is painfully obvious that none of these people that have rushed to label this woman as a suicide give a flying leap about truth or justice, imo.

Freespeech, you've knocked it out of the ballpark yet again and capsulized a condensed version of what I believe are the true facts without the misrepresentations of Sheriff Gore. And the gravity of which IMO should result in malfeasance charges. Great job in simplifying a very egregious lack of justice shown to not only the Zahau family but to the citizens of San Diego. You need to be commended on your continual and untiring fight to reopen these jokes of investigations.

 

[bourne]

BBM - we don't really know what he said! I've said this before. I think Rebecca administered resuscitation breaths as best she could or tried. There is no reason to think XZ was not telling the truth and the story as it was unfolding on the 911 call. Like I said, it could be like a phone tree and somehow Rebecca trying to give life saving breaths (given it may not have even been possible to accomplish) at some point down the lines turns into Nina and Dina's account. I don't think we can point the finger at Jonah for doing something wrong or goading Dina based on what we know.

Agree. We do not have any solid evidence aside from Dina and Nina's words what Jonah said or did not say about Rebecca and Max's accident. As it stands, the twins' statements are considered hearsay.

 

[bourne]

I think that very well could change. I believe there is a lot of evidence we don't know about. All they need is enough to get it reopened. And, in this case, I think most people find a suicide just totally unbelievable.

Agree. Once the CA AG reopens Rebecca's case and a new set of independent impartial investigators examine the evidence, the truth about who killed Rebecca in such a heinous, vindictive, disgraceful manner will be exposed, as will their motives, opportunity and means.

 

[justice be served]

Gloria was the one who "broke" Dina's prenup.........wonder why she is not at Dina's side in this mess, as she so loves the spotlight?

Perhaps Gloria Allred refused to participate based on what is known and she doesn't believe in the merit of what Dina is trying to prove. She also has her reputation to protect.

 

[*Lash*]

Didn't Nina say she also tried the front door or something like that?

Nina's Interview - starting around the 11:00 min mark -

NINA:
I initially saw that light illuminating over - so but it didn't look like anyone was home - but I went up to the front door - and rang the bell - nothing. Rang the bell a second time - nothing. You know, knocked on the door - like looked through the glass - nothing. So then I walked to my left - down a couple stairs - which is just on the porch - down a couple stairs - and then straight which is towards the garage - now her car was in the driveway - and I thought - well that's strange cause her car is there. So walked down it's - the garage is very close - to the porch area so what you would do is you pass the kitchen - like on that side of the house there's a kitchen - and then the - you guys call the bedroom - I call the sitting room - which is right upstairs from that second floor - there's a gate that goes to the back yard - and I didn't touch the gate - didn't try to open the gate in anyway - I just - there's like little slats in it? and I just kinda tried to look through but it was very dark - just to see maybe there's a light or something - there is nothing - there is no light - but the only light that was on - was in that bedroom - that second bedroom the sitting room - is what I call it - that light - that light the overhead light was on.

Audio - http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kfmb/misc/nina_romano.mp3