What if Casey USED Caylee as a bargaining chip with her parents?

[magic-cat]

I think Casey saw Caylee as an opportunity to, perhaps for the first time, have some "control" over her own life. I think she SAW how much her parents loved Caylee and that they would do almost ANYTHING to keep this little girl in their lives, and I think Casey took FULL advantage of that fact and used her daughter like a giant pawn in a diabolical game of chess...

 

[RasGirl26]

I dont know that it was directly done by I do think KC definately used Caylee as leverage. For example if mom and dad said you need to move out and take care of yourself KC would use Caylee as a pawn saying things like what about her well being what if I cant provide for her, or if you kick me out youll never see Caylee again etc.

 

[magic-cat]

I think she said that exact thing-if I leave I am taking Caylee and you will not see her again. I think she said it when she left on the 15th, and I think she meant it.

 

[Jolynna]

Not poor Cindy. Cindy has been enabling KC. Cindy should have taken custody as soon as Caylee was born. She knew KC was irresponsible, immature, a liar and a thief.

Grounds for taking children from natural parents don't include irresponsibility, immaturity or being a liar. Thieves don't necessarily lose custody unless they are sent away.

Since Casey had never been arrested and never got a chance to be neglectful, Casey could have left home and taken Caylee from Cindy anytime, IMO.

It isn't that easy for a grandmother to take custody away from the parent.

 

[passionflower]

No "what if" about it.

IMO, Casey didn't mind being a mother when Caylee was little & slept most of the time & she was something all her friends gushed over... when Caylee got older it became too time consuming & worst of all... Caylee was old enough to start telling her grandparents what Casey & she did when they were together. THAT must have been a BIG problem for Casey.

But having Caylee was an easy way to get money out of her parents, so I also have to wonder if they were starting to give her trouble for NEVER having money to take care of her daughter.... they might have thought she was wasting her whole 'paycheck' on drinking & whatnot & threatened to stop paying for EVERY LITTLE THING. They'd pay for Caylee's medical & the food she ate THERE but no more cash for incidentals.

IF Casey has to start spending her own money on Caylee... THAT'S another big problem... she doesn't have money AND any she 'found' she surely would rather spend it all on CASEY, not Caylee.


A kid who can tattle on you AND who costs more & more as she gets older.... is a LIABILITY.

At that age also, she couldn't work if she was into anything illegal.......interfere in KC lifestyle! I doubt if KC ever 'bonded' with her baby,
Caylee would be wanting to go, play, cry, be a nusiance like a normal 2 year old girl! IMO

 

[Coley]

Not to say it's right, but a lot of young single parents (not all) do use their kids for some reason or another.

 

[Pink Panther]

Caylee - if she was "normal" and by all accounts she was, was starting to string SENTENCES together. Surely, she was saying SOMETHING?

 

[Coley]

Caylee - if she was "normal" and by all accounts she was, was starting to string SENTENCES together. Surely, she was saying SOMETHING?

I totally agree! My little boy who is 2 1/2 is starting to tell random strangers anything and everything. I just hate to imagine that he has already told my mom, his granny, that I hit poppy's car backing up the other day hee hee

 

[Jadestar]

To me, this is the real tragedy, that Cindy insisted that Casey keep a baby that she didn't want. Caylee could have been adopted by some loving couple and could have grown up to be a "normal" person. She would not have grown up around this dysfunctional family. IMO, neither Cindy or Casey is capable of being a good mother.

THANK YOU! There are so many wonderful loving people wanting to adopt.:clap:

 

[MaryAnn]

My mother has never even met my 2 youngest children, age 5 and 3...

I don't mean to pry magic-cat but if you feel this way maybe you should report it. Sounds like that poor child is not getting a fair shot at life being used as a bribe and then having someone who is unfit to care for the child. What a sad story! If you think your Mother was not fit enough to care for you maybe she is harming this other baby??

 

[magic-cat]

I don't mean to pry magic-cat but if you feel this way maybe you should report it. Sounds like that poor child is not getting a fair shot at life being used as a bribe and then having someone who is unfit to care for the child. What a sad story! If you think your Mother was not fit enough to care for you maybe she is harming this other baby??

You know what? I have reported it and worse things that have happened to that kid. Do you know what Social Services did? NOTHING! This kid is living with a psychopathic maniac who tried to destroy her own children, his mother is collecting a MILITARY disability check for the child from his father who is not on the scene and has never even met the kid, and she continues to receive assistance, medicaid and food stamps for him AND child support and he never stays with her for one single day and THAT is the price that she charges I guess (and she, the mother of this kid was as much a victim as anyone was so she is not entirely to blame) to allow a monster to raise her child. Life is so unfair when a crazy person is in control of YOUR life and you have no defenses.

Oh wait, did I say they did nothing? They did something. They arranged an interview with my niece and her son and my neice cancelled the appointment and never rescheduled and it ended right there. The kid had reported to his siblings that he had been molested-oh God-I hate to even think about it, and I reported every bit of it in INTIMATE detail, and that interview that never happened is the last of it-THE END...This was West Virginia in the county of Mercer and they completely failed in this situation-MISERABLY as the situation continues on to this day and not one thing has ever been done to stop it.:banghead:

 

[Eric's_Iguana]

You know what? I have reported it and worse things that have happened to that kid. Do you know what Social Services did? NOTHING! This kid is living with a psychopathic maniac who tried to destroy her own children, his mother is collecting a MILITARY disability check for the child from his father who is not on the scene and has never even met the kid, and she continues to receive assistance, medicaid and food stamps for him AND child support and he never stays with her for one single day and THAT is the price that she charges I guess (and she, the mother of this kid was as much a victim as anyone was so she is not entirely to blame) to allow a monster to raise her child. Life is so unfair when a crazy person is in control of YOUR life and you have no defenses.

Oh wait, did I say they did nothing? They did something. They arranged an interview with my niece and her son and my neice cancelled the appointment and never rescheduled and it ended right there. The kid had reported to his siblings that he had been molested-oh God-I hate to even think about it, and I reported every bit of it in INTIMATE detail, and that interview that never happened is the last of it-THE END...This was West Virginia in the county of Mercer and they completely failed in this situation-MISERABLY as the situation continues on to this day and not one thing has ever been done to stop it.:banghead:

This is so horribly sad, it breaks my heart to imagine some of the circumstances that some poor children have to endure.

Back on topic, I'm sure Casey used Caylee. She wouldn't be the first one. I think that sometimes it is necessary to enforce boundaries - if you don't stop smoking around my asthmatic child, we won't come over anymore. But, there's a huge difference between that and USING a child - give me money or we leave forever.

Poor, poor Caylee.

 

[MomofBoys]

THANK YOU! There are so many wonderful loving people wanting to adopt.:clap:

Yes, there are, but I can't fault CA for wanting to keep the baby. If I had been in the same situation with my firstborn, my mom would have begged and cried, I think.

My mom was a good parent, but most people with parenting "issues" probably don't see their own flaws. CA probably saw her daughter pregnant with her granddaughter, and the prospect of sending that baby away was probably scary to her. Keeping her, loving her, seemed like a better option than not knowing.

I'll find fault with CA over a lot, but not that. I think she loved Caylee and would have gone to the ends of the earth for Caylee. Unfortunately, she was also KC's parent and felt duty-bound to encourage KC to have SOME responsibility. Maybe CA was aware of KC's jealousy issues and tried to let her take control of Caylee's day-to-day life more. Maybe it killed her inside, but she was trying to be less available for babysitting, less accomodating with the money. Appeasing KC while teaching KC, and unfortunately it backfired in an awful way.

That's the only way I can reconcile CA not taking a more active stance earlier on in Caylee's disappearance. I'm a 32 year old married mother of two, and if I couldn't give my mom details about where my boys were? Bessie, bar the door! Like most grandparents, my parents adore the boys. I know the Anthonys adored Caylee. I met them and it was tangible. I just wish CA could take a step back and speak without having her words go through the KC defense filter.

I think KC felt that she was between a ludicrous rock and a ridiculous hard place. She desperately wanted her freedom while not being able to fathom giving her mother control. She resented Caylee and CA's attachment to each other, but didn't want to use that attachment to fulfill her need to be free. Caylee was HERS and her pride would never allow her to let her mom be right or "win."

These weren't real problems, though, not in a serious sense. If one of them was able to compromise just a bit, we probably wouldn't be here right now. Instead, it became a battle of prideful wills and Caylee was the rope in a game of tug and war, and the rope snapped and now KC and CA are each holding the end of the rope. The difference being that CA would probably give her life to take that game back and KC, meanwhile, would just resolve to pull harder next time.

 

[jamielynn]

I still blame CA for her part in this. She really, IMO, used Caylee to controll KC. She also, IMO, took pleasure in trying to make KC see that Caylee loved Ca more than KC. My mother would never do that.

 

[jamielynn]

I wouldn't doubt it. I don't think Casey loved Caylee like a normal mother loves her child. I think Casey is WAY to self involved for that and everything she feels and does is ONLY because it directly affects her. She doesn't have compassion for other people. I am positive Casey has never shed a tear in her life for anyone but herself. She manipulates everything to benefit herself. Why would it be any different with her child?

She reminds me of Diane Downs. DD's children were bleeding and dying in the ER. and DD was worried about going to work the next day!

 

[auntbaby]

You know what? I have reported it and worse things that have happened to that kid. Do you know what Social Services did? NOTHING! This kid is living with a psychopathic maniac who tried to destroy her own children, his mother is collecting a MILITARY disability check for the child from his father who is not on the scene and has never even met the kid, and she continues to receive assistance, medicaid and food stamps for him AND child support and he never stays with her for one single day and THAT is the price that she charges I guess (and she, the mother of this kid was as much a victim as anyone was so she is not entirely to blame) to allow a monster to raise her child. Life is so unfair when a crazy person is in control of YOUR life and you have no defenses.

Oh wait, did I say they did nothing? They did something. They arranged an interview with my niece and her son and my neice cancelled the appointment and never rescheduled and it ended right there. The kid had reported to his siblings that he had been molested-oh God-I hate to even think about it, and I reported every bit of it in INTIMATE detail, and that interview that never happened is the last of it-THE END...This was West Virginia in the county of Mercer and they completely failed in this situation-MISERABLY as the situation continues on to this day and not one thing has ever been done to stop it.:banghead:

Magic Cat,

Not wanting to beat a dead horse here, but do you have a local news program that looks into such things? On our local channel we have a segment called "channel seven on your side". People write or email in with many different kinds of situations that they cannot get the police or whomever to look into or take care of. It may be something as simple as dogs running loose, trash not picked up, children without the proper living situation or no supervision. They will look into it, do a proper investigation, and see to it by bringing it into the public eye that someone WILL do something about it. No one wants to be "outed" in public for not doing their job especially when it comes to children. I will pray for the little fellow. He surely needs a miracle, his life may depend on it.

 

[Paintr]

Perhaps both sides used Caylee as a bargining chip. CA threatened to take Caylee away from KC if KC didn't 'straighten up and fly right'. KC threatened to leave home and take Caylee with her if CA didn't 'get off her (KC's) back'. Maybe this was an ongoing theme of arguments in the A household.