What is Misty hiding, IF anything?

[nomoresorrow]

The thing that bothers me about this vid besides what you mentioned is Ron's response to the question about his marriage to Misty. He keeps saying it is nobody's business what he does in his personal life and does not think it is fodder for national TV. He said, my child is missing and that is what should be on TV not what I do in my personal life.

Okay but your child is MISSING! That should be your personal life right now, it should be encompassing everything about your life right now. Every minute of your life should be devoted to finding your missing daughter.
The distinction he is making between Haleigh missing and his personal life bothers me. There is no distinction or at least there shouldn't be.....you know?

ICA. This statement IMO sums up perfectly Ron's whole basis and perception of parenting. His justifies his extracurricular behavior (i.e, drinking, drugs, fights, guns, underage girlfriends,...) by categorizing all of these as merely "parts" of or in his life. Sadly, the most important "part" of his life should be his children but he feels that those other "parts" of his life, the parts where he has sexual relations with a minor child in the home that he and his children live in, or where he engages in fights with friends or relatives over drugs, guns, girlfriends,.. are parts kept over to the left, so to say, whereas the part of his life that includes his children is somewhere over to the right and of course in his mind neither have anything to do with the other and they couldn't possibly have any cross-over effect(s), But if anyone questions or challange that, he pulls out the "job card" and essentially uses that as further justification and self-validation that he must be doing something right as a parent because, as he stated on NG, he works and supports his family. Reminds me of a caveman, "me man, hear me roarrrrrr..." lol.
MOO

 

[nomoresorrow]

...and on topic, sorry mods, I intended to put in my 2 cents about that in my previous post but I forgot...:blushing: Okay, I think that it's one of the top three and possibly all - I think that at some point that night she was gone (left the house) and I also think that at one point she returned home with a visitor or visitors. I've often wondered if one of her "guests" crashed on the couch or in Jr's room and either agreed to get up on their own and leave before Ron got home or she agreed to wake the "guest" up at three allowing time for the "guest" to leave before Ron got home...?? and of course there is always the possibility that Misty was involved in what became of Haleigh. I really don't feel that she was BUT I definately feel that she knows who is responsible because it's someone that she partied with that night and that's what she is holding back from LE IMO..."she's the key."
MOO

 

[warbuckle]

What does everyone this about this story. Ron involved in selling drugs and pisses off the wrong dude and he takes Haliegh. Misty and Ron both know who it is but came up with the story later to cover the real reason his child was taken. They get married so they don't have to testify against each other on the non-child issues like the drug use.

 

[nomoresorrow]

What does everyone this about this story. Ron involved in selling drugs and pisses off the wrong dude and he takes Haliegh. Misty and Ron both know who it is but came up with the story later to cover the real reason his child was taken. They get married so they don't have to testify against each other on the non-child issues like the drug use.

Until we have an absolute answer, anything's a possibility warbuckle. The trouble that I have with that theory is that I really can't see a drug dealer being interested in the "child abduction racket," but it's a possibility if you take into account that Ron and Misty have nothing of real value except for Ron's children - if they screwed over the wrong person and that person knows that the $$ and/or drugs will never be recovered than the goal could be to hurt Ron by taking one of the two most (only) valuable possessions that he has purely for payback. If true, LE would need to look at those in the area with a history of trafficing as well as violent offenses and known to have been associated with Ron and/or Misty - that takes a special (not) breed to sink to that, IMO, the lowest of levels possible.
MOO

 

[LillieBelle]

It seems that now, it is all but certain that indeed Misty left the house that night, and she also probably had a "guest" with her when she came back, regardless of whether or not she "passed" lie detector tests.

What bothers me is how, even if she isn't involved, she hasn't taken any responsibility for being the caretaker of this child when she disappeared. It would seem normal if she said "I am so sorry, I should have been watching more carefully, I shouldn't have fallen asleep, I should have done this, I should have done that", that would be normal. But she has taken zero responsibility whatsoever. That really bothers me...

 

[tezi]

What does everyone this about this story. Ron involved in selling drugs and pisses off the wrong dude and he takes Haliegh. Misty and Ron both know who it is but came up with the story later to cover the real reason his child was taken. They get married so they don't have to testify against each other on the non-child issues like the drug use.

Respectfully bolded by me....They will have to testify about the events that took place BEFORE they were married. Martial privelege doesn't extent to the period BEFORE you are married. Haleigh went missing before they were married, so anything that was said and done between the two of them can be offered as evidence.

With that said, I'm still trying to decide if Misty was there or she wasn't. I'm just not sure. It would help if we had a "consistent" story from her.

 

[one_hooah_wife]

I severly doubt this. Children Haleigh's age usually don't know what sex is. My husband and I have 8 year old twins and they don't know what sex is. Same goes with drugs. I think it's more likely that Haleigh was picked up and moved from the couch to the bedroom. Jr. may have seen Haleigh being moved from one location to the other. Misty's visitor could have moved the child. If Jr. saw this, naturally he would assume this is the man that took his sissy. Or, the couch bouncing woke Jr. which is when he saw this stranger with Misty on the couch. Or, Misty was possibly passed out and the visitor took advantage of her on the couch and then kidnaped Haleigh. JMO

Do your 8 year old twins regularly sleep on a mattress on the floor of you and your husband's bedroom? Unfortunately, I think these children were exposed to a lot of behaviors (probably in both households) that no child, at any age, should have knowledge about. JMO

 

[Emeralgem]

What does everyone this about this story. Ron involved in selling drugs and pisses off the wrong dude and he takes Haliegh. Misty and Ron both know who it is but came up with the story later to cover the real reason his child was taken. They get married so they don't have to testify against each other on the non-child issues like the drug use.

Bolded by me.. If that is the case and Ron is covering his own rear over Haleigh's safety, then Ron Cummings doesn't deserve to be raising his children..He is unfit, and needs to be locked up and the key thrown away...

 

[Gma Kat]

It seems that now, it is all but certain that indeed Misty left the house that night, and she also probably had a "guest" with her when she came back, regardless of whether or not she "passed" lie detector tests.

What bothers me is how, even if she isn't involved, she hasn't taken any responsibility for being the caretaker of this child when she disappeared. It would seem normal if she said "I am so sorry, I should have been watching more carefully, I shouldn't have fallen asleep, I should have done this, I should have done that", that would be normal. But she has taken zero responsibility whatsoever. That really bothers me...

Your point is well taken LillieBelle, but I have seen an interview with her, which was within a week of Haleigh going missing, where Misty is crying and saying why would anyone take the child instead of her, she wishes it would have been her, wishes she would have seen them because she would have fought with her life to protect Haleigh...they only show a couple seconds of that interview now as a highlight. That was the only interview where I found her sincere. But I am very gullable and since that interview I do not find her as convincing or as you mentioned, sorry for her inability to protect this child. I don't know Misty's involvement in Haleigh's disappearance, but I do believe there is sooo much more to this story than MC/RC adn LE are telling the public. I do beleive she is hiding something at this point, I'm just not sure what level of involvement she had.

 

[Gma Kat]

Do your 8 year old twins regularly sleep on a mattress on the floor of you and your husband's bedroom? Unfortunately, I think these children were exposed to a lot of behaviors (probably in both households) that no child, at any age, should have knowledge about. JMO

Sorry mods if this is too O/T: one hooah wife, you bring up a point I wish would be cleared up. During NG's interview with Mrs. Neves at Ron's trailer they showed Haleigh's bedroom with the toddler bed frame set up. I am wondering HOW LONG have Haleigh and Jr. have been sleeping with Misty and Ron. Is it possible that they just moved haleigh's mattress into their room once Ron started on the night shift? This is important in that an intruder would not look for cihldren in the aprent's room if that was the intended target. So the intruder either knew that Haleigh would be in that room, or perhaps taking haleigh was not the intended purpose of the intruder....?

 

[Donjeta]

What bothers me is how, even if she isn't involved, she hasn't taken any responsibility for being the caretaker of this child when she disappeared. It would seem normal if she said "I am so sorry, I should have been watching more carefully, I shouldn't have fallen asleep, I should have done this, I should have done that", that would be normal. But she has taken zero responsibility whatsoever. That really bothers me...

I agree that she doesn't seem to blame herself and some of that might be normal. But she'd be really tough on herself if she blamed herself for sleeping at night.

 

[Donjeta]

Sorry mods if this is too O/T: one hooah wife, you bring up a point I wish would be cleared up. During NG's interview with Mrs. Neves at Ron's trailer they showed Haleigh's bedroom with the toddler bed frame set up. I am wondering HOW LONG have Haleigh and Jr. have been sleeping with Misty and Ron. Is it possible that they just moved haleigh's mattress into their room once Ron started on the night shift? This is important in that an intruder would not look for cihldren in the aprent's room if that was the intended target. So the intruder either knew that Haleigh would be in that room, or perhaps taking haleigh was not the intended purpose of the intruder....?

I don't think that an intruder needs to know in which room the children are sleeping. It would be helpful to know so they could prepare but if they lack the information it's easy enough to look into all the rooms to determine where the children are.

 

[one_hooah_wife]

I don't think that an intruder needs to know in which room the children are sleeping. It would be helpful to know so they could prepare but if they lack the information it's easy enough to look into all the rooms to determine where the children are.

True ... and the mattress on the bedroom floor where Haleigh was reportedly sleeping looks to be between the doorway and the bed. If the door was left open, as witnessed to, it seems that the bed would be in clear view to anyone in the hallway ... Haleigh would, in fact, be the first person that "the intruder" would see. The problem to me with the intruder theory, one of them anyway, is that it would take someone really brazen to enter a room where three people slept ... including one adult, and abduct a child. How could they possibly know that Misty is a deep sleeper, Haleigh is a deep sleeper or that any one of them, sleeping in the same room, would not wake up during the abduction? In my neighborhood, I see children playing outside, unsupervised, all day and into the early evening ... it would be easy for them to be lured and abducted without notice ... much easier than if they had to pick a lock ... use extreme stealthiness, find and place a cinder block to hold open the back door ... maneuver through an unfamiliar home and take a sleeping child in a room occupied by two other people ... without very real risk of exposure. Not to mention that this took place in a trailer park where the homes are placed closer to each other than in a traditional neighborhood. It just doesn't make sense to me ... this either had to be someone with well practiced, perfected, breaking and entering skills, knowledge of the layout of the house, the sleeping patterns of those in the house, as well as, the work schedule of RC. OR It could be that someone in the house that night was complicit in the crime somehow.

You know what they say about the simplest of explanations!

 

[txsvicki]

I believe Misti has recently admitted to going out of the trailer onto the porch that night for a cigarette. She could feel that this story would explain any inconsistencies in the polygraph. Misti could have really been outside with WBG or another guy.

 

[Whisperer]

Another change??? good grief!

 

[Dr. Know?]

Nite all but I wish this case would really move on to finding Haleigh. It's sad, isn't it? It is to me. I feel for the innocent.

 

[MeoW333]

It seems that now, it is all but certain that indeed Misty left the house that night, and she also probably had a "guest" with her when she came back, regardless of whether or not she "passed" lie detector tests.

What bothers me is how, even if she isn't involved, she hasn't taken any responsibility for being the caretaker of this child when she disappeared. It would seem normal if she said "I am so sorry, I should have been watching more carefully, I shouldn't have fallen asleep, I should have done this, I should have done that", that would be normal. But she has taken zero responsibility whatsoever. That really bothers me...

That is true, you would think the normal reaction would be for her to place blame on herself and be apologetic. We've seen nothing like that from Misty at all. I know if i were in her shoes, i'd be apologizing, afterall she was the one in charge of the children while Ron was at work.

She takes no responsibility, that is the truth! It's odd and i'm not sure what to make of it..

She's had 3 polygraphs which shows she's show deception. Not sure for which question(s), most likely something regarding the time frame, as she puts a block in the way for LE until she can come clean with that.

What i don't understand is, if she wasn't home at the time, why doesn't she just say so? Is it that big a deal? Ron already knows she was sleeping around and doing drugs, the rumor that she wasn't home has been thrown out there. It doesn't make sense that Misty wouldn't just come clean about it if she wasn't home, as a lot of other dirt is out in the open.

I believe Misty wasn't alone that night, i think someone else was with her at some point. Something went terribly wrong.. with 30 hours of interrogation she's sticking to her guns or walking out of an interview when the heat's placed on her. She's definitely seeming a tough nut to crack.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

That is true, you would think the normal reaction would be for her to place blame on herself and be apologetic. We've seen nothing like that from Misty at all. I know if i were in her shoes, i'd be apologizing, afterall she was the one in charge of the children while Ron was at work.

She takes no responsibility, that is the truth! It's odd and i'm not sure what to make of it..

She's had 3 polygraphs which shows she's show deception. Not sure for which question(s), most likely something regarding the time frame, as she puts a block in the way for LE until she can come clean with that.

What i don't understand is, if she wasn't home at the time, why doesn't she just say so? Is it that big a deal? Ron already knows she was sleeping around and doing drugs, the rumor that she wasn't home has been thrown out there. It doesn't make sense that Misty wouldn't just come clean about it if she wasn't home, as a lot of other dirt is out in the open.

I believe Misty wasn't alone that night, i think someone else was with her at some point. Something went terribly wrong.. with 30 hours of interrogation she's sticking to her guns or walking out of an interview when the heat's placed on her. She's definitely seeming a tough nut to crack.

I agree with you.

 

[TxLady2]

Do your 8 year old twins regularly sleep on a mattress on the floor of you and your husband's bedroom? Unfortunately, I think these children were exposed to a lot of behaviors (probably in both households) that no child, at any age, should have knowledge about. JMO

Kids might not know what sex is if they've never been exposed to it, but unfortunately, some are. I do not think it is a good idea to keep children in the same bedroom as the parents, after they are one or two years old.
Actually, I know 10 yr. olds that might not know what sex is, and 8 yr olds that pretend they don't know.

 

[txsvicki]

If Misti wasn't home with the kids then she probably wouldn't want to admit that because she'd still be charged with a crime and would have the whole family hating her. If she had guys over and one was inside where he could take Haleigh or unlock the door to come back later she should tell who it was insted of just blaming her cousin. Not that it's impossible that it could have been her cousin or someone he had with him. If it wasn't her cousin, I hope he stays away from that part of his family because they sure are ready to point fingers at him.