What Is the Defense Strategy #2

[Solace]

Caylee was found December 11th and the area where she was found no longer contained water, it was pretty much dried up by December. However, in August when RK first spotted the skull he described it as bobbing in the water.

Right. So the skull was outside of the bag LambChop and stayed there for five months. I thought he kicked the bag and the skull appeared (in December). Am I wrong? I also thought he mentioned seeing the skull bobbing in the water.

 

[zoey]

I don't know what the strategy is going to be, but they probably should address the KC phone call from Jail on July 16th when she says "all they care about is Caylee" oops - "and you know what so do I".

Or maybe they should just try and hope it is never mentioned.

Okay, one more time: I was at the beach with my son and lost him for about 45 seconds - and almost had heart failure - seriously! HEART FAILURE!

Also all the past tense coco while in jail. Sometimes she caught it other ti
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[panthera]

Agree Panthera. If they pull that off, it will be incredible.

Schaeffer, wftv analyst, says the defense will try to show Casey's video where he poked around in the dry ground on November 16th mere feet from where she was found.

She was found December 8th and she was found in water with the skll bobbing in the water (I believe) - that is horrible.

Casey digs around in the same spot continuously, as I see it. A radius of about 6 inches. I don't see this as a problem for the state.

The most important point being, imo, this is right down the street from her parents' house, a house she lived in with Caylee, and was still living in. What "SODDI" would've chosen that place to put Caylee's remains? The defense does have a challenge ahead of them. MOO

 

[sleutherontheside]

Richard G@briel's company has paired with Judic@te West in Focus Group Mediation. They conduct a focus group and then use the results in mediation.

I can't help but think that perhaps the entire 48 Hours debacle was really part of a DT effort to "mediate" with the SAO to allow KC to plea to a lesser charge with reduced jail time.

See link ...
http://www.judicatewest.com/programs/focusgroupmediation

 

[Solace]

The most important point being, imo, this is right down the street from her parents' house, a house she lived in with Caylee, and was still living in. What "SODDI" would've chosen that place to put Caylee's remains? The defense does have a challenge ahead of them. MOO

What does SODDI mean?

 

[Marina2]

What does SODDI mean?

You're gonna laugh.. . Some Other Dude Did It

 

[gngr~snap]

What does SODDI mean?

S ome
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[LambChop]

Right. So the skull was outside of the bag LambChop and stayed there for five months. I thought he kicked the bag and the skull appeared (in December). Am I wrong? I also thought he mentioned seeing the skull bobbing in the water.

I believe he claimed to have seen what looked like the top of a skull in a whitish bag and possibly a black bag in August but I would have to go back and look at his deposition for sure but I'm pretty sure that is close to what he said. In December the water had receded and he saw the bag and kicked it and the skull rolled out. Not clear whether the skull was under the bag or in the bag at the time and I'm not sure he knows because he was shocked. And at first glance he did not believe it was real until he touched it with his stick. The bag appears to have been under water for 5/6 months which would explain why defense is trying to find someone who claims the area was dry. Unfortunately for defense with the number of people already testifying to how wet it was no one would believe it unless they had photographs of the exact area where Caylee was found.

 

[SondraK]

SODDI _ some other dude did it

 

[Macushla]

A tragic accident, and the way she was treated by either George or Cindy (for either most of her life or when she was a teen or when she became pregnant)caused her to react the way she did and try to cover it up and pretend nothing happened. IMO this is the way the defense is going to go. the problem with this is, aside from the whole accident thing, in order to show how horrible either G or C were, someone has to testify about it. It can not be hearsay either. Someone has to sit in that witness chair and say they saw this abuse - whatever kind it was - over a long period of time. I don't think Lee would do it. Who does that leave? George ratting out Cindy, Cindy ratting out George? Would either one of them confess to and admit they did whatever it supposedly was? The Defense can show as many video clips as they want to that point out George's temper and Cindy's temper. So what? I don't see how they can go down this road without putting KC on the stand. In fact, I don't see how they can put up any defense at all without her testimony. the best they can do is try to impeach the testimony of all LE and all expert witnesses.

 

[LambChop]

A tragic accident, and the way she was treated by either George or Cindy (for either most of her life or when she was a teen or when she became pregnant)caused her to react the way she did and try to cover it up and pretend nothing happened. IMO this is the way the defense is going to go. the problem with this is, aside from the whole accident thing, in order to show how horrible either G or C were, someone has to testify about it. It can not be hearsay either. Someone has to sit in that witness chair and say they saw this abuse - whatever kind it was - over a long period of time. I don't think Lee would do it. Who does that leave? George ratting out Cindy, Cindy ratting out George? Would either one of them confess to and admit they did whatever it supposedly was? The Defense can show as many video clips as they want to that point out George's temper and Cindy's temper. So what? I don't see how they can go down this road without putting KC on the stand. In fact, I don't see how they can put up any defense at all without her testimony. the best they can do is try to impeach the testimony of all LE and all expert witnesses.

But how would that excuse KC from killing her own child. Even if one of the A's claims I did it and it was an accident they are throwing away a future with a grandchild not even born yet. Why would they ruin Lee's life to save KC? They can't save her but they have a future with Lee. I would hope someone has pointed that out to them. jmo

 

[Macushla]

But how would that excuse KC from killing her own child. Even if one of the A's claims I did it and it was an accident they are throwing away a future with a grandchild not even born yet. Why would they ruin Lee's life to save KC? They can't save her but they have a future with Lee. I would hope someone has pointed that out to them. jmo

I am sure that over the last 3 years many, many people have tried to talk some sense into both George and Cindy. As of right now, it doesn't look like they listened, does it?

I have given up thinking that George and Cindy will ever behave in a rational manner. I am a mother and a grandmother, I know how I would have felt and what I would have done had it been my child, I will never understand them.

 

[logicalgirl]

CM gets a lot wrong when he sites instances in hearings. Hope he does a little better, no a lot better during the trial. Didn't he say that the female officer put KC into the back of her vehicle in handcuffs? Now we just know that is not true. So one does not know if that was deliberate (hard to believe when the judge remembers everything said) or if his memory is just not reliable. I know it is hard to understand him but it will be interesting to see if he can keep the facts straight. jmo

BBM:
Piggybacking on your entire comment LambChop if I may - OR - he has not done the initial reading of depos and interviews to know exactly what the facts are.

 

[logicalgirl]

I am sure that over the last 3 years many, many people have tried to talk some sense into both George and Cindy. As of right now, it doesn't look like they listened, does it?

I have given up thinking that George and Cindy will ever behave in a rational manner. I am a mother and a grandmother, I know how I would have felt and what I would have done had it been my child, I will never understand them.

I still think at this point they now realize they are just trying to save her from the death penalty and would rather see LWOP than the ultimate penalty.

 

[logicalgirl]

The only thing I can glean from CMason's interview is that he intends to use the Anthony's - he says she is 100% innocent (and I realize he has to say that).

They just went through all these Frye hearings (which the jury will never know about) and it is interesting because they did everything they could to exclude everything. - SOOO, if they are going to NOW say that GA is responsible for this murder (which I believe they are) then they really did not need to refute the Frye hearings. Just say yes you are right there was a body in the trunk but KC did not put it there, etc., etc. and then bring on the sexual abuse.

I don't think this will work knowing how detailed the prosecution is, but I think they intend to use it per Cheney's recent statements about "disturbing" things in this family.

Oh yeah - I'll give you that alright - I think CM will huff and puff and try to blow the house down - but we know how that story goes don't we! The house the SA built will still be standing solid when this story ends.

 

[LambChop]

BBM:
Piggybacking on your entire comment LambChop if I may - OR - he has not done the initial reading of depos and interviews to know exactly what the facts are.

OR, he's reading too many blogs and getting misinformation. But not here, of course. No, no not us. He'd be working for SA if he were ready here. Well, that is if he could stand working for anyone that works for the government. lol

 

[LambChop]

So does anyone here even think that a chapter in an upcoming book would be interesting when it describes KC's parents as normal? If defense is hanging their hat on the "disturbing" information coming from the A's and it originated with KC......good luck with that one. She's been reading books for almost three years. Had plenty of time to chart her course with little distraction. Whatever comes from KC can't be taken seriously so unless defense has witnesses willing to testify that this disturbing information is true, I would give it a pass and I hope the jury does as well. jmo

 

[LambChop]

Remember the little slip from JB???? (Paraphased) "It would do my client no good to reveal the whereabouts of her child...." And this was early on before the remains were found. He knew. Because he was right in his statement even though at the time we were saying "Huh????" jmo

 

[OpenMind4U]

In regards of 'what is the defense strategy?', I highly believe JB approach will be simple: It was accident and KC got scared for her life because her parents are abusive. KC run for her life (like she was sure her parents will kill her), scared, confused, homeless and all other bla-bla-bla...JB will talk about KC relationship with her parents as the culpit of this tragedy...justifying all her lies and actions, placing all A's members under the bus to emphasize 31 days as the 'run for KC life'...JMO, but the more I think about how JB can approach this 31 days dillema in opening statement - the more I believe he'll 'turn table' against the family, placing blame on parents, away from KC. Again, JMO.

 

[Harmony 2]

Bumping up this thread for discussion..