What Is the Defense Strategy #2

[magiemay]

The defense's strategy is easy "baffle 'em with BS"... "smoke & mirrors"... "we ain't gotta' prove a thing"...."defendent does not need to defend"...."State must pay"...."blame someone/something else for her actions"... will it work? I hope NOT...I hope that my fellow "Floridians" will have enough brainpower to be able to separate the "wheat from the shaft" and see the "truth" even though the "truth and Ms. Anthony are total strangers"...(JP Strickland...)

Have faith my friend, I feel sure they will be able to separate it just as we have. It is just a matter of time as for the defense I say they had better just say their prayers as they will all have a come to Jesus meeting with the fact that there is just no way to defend all that is stacked against their client!!!

 

[LaLaw2000]

I will state again that I do not think the DT even has a real strategy. They will be too busy trying to minimize the onslaught of evidence thrown at them. Additionally, I do not think the DT is prepared for this case.

I hope I can make the following comments on this thread:

The DT has made all of this about ICA (and themselves). I do not think they have done her a service by making her feel she is so important and to not worry.

When the trial starts on Tuesday, ICA will be in for a very rude awakening, IMO. It will finally dawn on her that this trial is really about Little Caylee, her murder, and her mother having alledgedly murdered her. ICA will hear all of the ugly, morbid facts and will not be able to handle it OR 'make them stop'. I really do think we will see a different and afraid ICA on Tuesday.

ICA will be in a very large courtroom as opposed to the small ones she is accustomed to so far. I don't know about CM, but Baez will almost certainly be intimidated. The SA's will be calm, cool, and assured.

I believe that the only thing the DT has done for strategy is plan their opening statement very well. They will promise to prove things we will never see proven, IMO. After that, they will literally be reactionary. The DT will try to impeach each and every prosecution witness and will fail.

I think at this point the DT is just trying to save ICA from the Death Penalty.

I predict LWOP because too many jurors seem to not like the Death Penalty as an option.

MOO

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Casey was offered and declined a plea deal before Jury Selection started. Evidently it was LWOP but she had to come clean on exactly what happened to Caylee.

http://www.wftv.com/news/27821780/detail.html

She should have taken it, IMO..but she truly believes someone will see it her way and she might just walk free....Someone is feeding her BS or she's feeding it to herself. She is playing russian roulette...a throw of the dice???

DT has alluded to an awful, tragic accident...I wonder how the duct tape will fit in and how the jurors react to that! Anything the DT states, as promised by Baez in the first three minutes of opening statements, can be seen as speculation...ICA will have to take the stand and drive it home...I only hope these fine jurors, with the weight of someones life and death on their shoulders have the victim in mind..Caylee Marie...whatever those jurors decide, it will be the last word spoken before His Honor delves out her punishment....life or death...which will it be??? JMHO

Justice for Caylee

 

[lowens1975]

Exactly! In fact earlier this morning I was actually collecting photos/videos and documenting anything I could find of her "contradictory" behavior ... for someone supposedly abused by either Lee or her father the pictures proved otherwise. But hey, what do I know... perhaps that's normal. NOT!

In the August 14, 2008 taped jailhouse visitation with ICA's parents, she indicates that she specifically chose GA to see over CA and LA. If I were being kept in a small cell and had to make a choice of who I could talk to over others, I doubt I would bypass a person who made me feel safe and choose a person who molested me. :great:

 

[heartfortruth]

That's what it sounds like.

Casey killed Caylee due to her inability to control her impulses but that is because Casey was sexually, emotionally, verbally abused and not protected by her family..oh and something happened when she was young which caused brain damage.

Sooooo........how did she end up being "very intelligent and likable"? (per CM......can't remember if he said "intelligent" or "bright") :waitasec:

 

[gmt]

I think back to CA wanting a divorce but found out she would lose the house. Did she make a comment to KC that if he were dead she could collect insurance, move by her parents and KC could have the house?? ( DT- scapegoat ??) Was KC planning to get rid of GA and before things happened, CA and her got into a fight? Keep thinking of the stroke, the house, KC telling LA to tell CA to look for Caylee at the "point" they had spoke of. CA and KC seemed to speak very often when looking at phone records when GA wasn't around. Did GA find out and try to take his own life? Was GA spending money and KC getting blamed ( how long does it take a parent to close a bank/cc account)? Why did CA give give wrong items of Caylees, was it because KC has goods on her folks and they have to protect her to protect themselves? Yes, Casey killed Caylee all by herself, but I wonder if KC's mind was planning on GA ( neck braking) and not Caylee. I just don't see where a KC came up with getting the house, CA moving to her parents town, and GA having a stroke if there had not been something cooking here already. The parents were protecting KC before Caylee was found, dead or alive. MY OPINION ONLY.

 

[SurfieTX]

I don't know what their strategy is, but IMO the best one is to proffer up some psychologist/psychiatrist to say KC was abused in some way(s), and then grill her parents and brother on the stand to get them confused and/or admit to some of it (if it existed at all, but we all know how questioning can go). Also, they should go after the state's evidence (duct tape, forensics, etc.).

I kind of think JB is aiming at that based on the way he questioned the jurors. He emphatically stated that KC does not have to prove anything and does not have to testify, and so did AF during her questioning. I also have a feeling JB is going to go hard after Dr. G.

I'm just wondering what the SA is going to prove as far as aggravating factors. We know the mitigating ones thus far thanks to AF. That's going to be important IMO.

The opening statements will certainly be interesting and clue us in.

 

[logicalgirl]

I don't know what their strategy is, but IMO the best one is to proffer up some psychologist/psychiatrist to say KC was abused in some way(s), and then grill her parents and brother on the stand to get them confused and/or admit to some of it (if it existed at all, but we all know how questioning can go). Also, they should go after the state's evidence (duct tape, forensics, etc.).

I kind of think JB is aiming at that based on the way he questioned the jurors. He emphatically stated that KC does not have to prove anything and does not have to testify, and so did AF during her questioning. I also have a feeling JB is going to go hard after Dr. G.

I'm just wondering what the SA is going to prove as far as aggravating factors. We know the mitigating ones thus far thanks to AF. That's going to be important IMO.

The opening statements will certainly be interesting and clue us in.

I agree with you- but if you remember, what the DT is trying to avoid was submitting the deposition of a psychologist to testify during the guilt phase, because that person would have had to examine ICA, which would open the door to the SA to do that very same thing with their own expert. They even tried to slide the opinions of two psychologists (or was one a psychiatrist) during the phase guilt phase with some law or another, also without opening that door, but the good Judge reminded the DT there are no precedents for "diminished mental capacity" during the guilt phase. So it was "Curses, foiled again - for the DT.

Now the DT is giving very definite signals they will do that during the penalty phase because there is much less emphasis on the actual evidence. Apparently the DT is able to swan around saying just about anything they like then. However I believe they were initially counting on George and Cindy to assist with this. But I wouldn't be too sure about that.

George and Cindy will be sitting through the trial hearing some very very difficult testimony that at times will be brutal. There will be no avoiding the truth. I believe this will be very difficult for them to finally face and the DT is beginning to hint at some pretty ugly stuff about the family. Those two things in my mind does not equal cooperation from GA and CA.

My final comment SurfieTX, is that sometime ago I downloaded the Florida College of Advanced Judicial Studies on conducting the penalty phase of a Capital Case - (yes all 300 and some pages) and I cannot find one case in their many examples where the jury has been swayed by any of the DT's mitigating factors. And some of these defendants have unimaginably horrible childhoods. Plus the SA will be presenting their own aggravating circumstances.

So, Mr. Baez, buckle up! You have stalled for three years - Real Time has arrived! You wanted to be death trial certified. Um, remember that saying...Be careful what you wish for?...

 

[Bon]

Well, I do not care for Mason and clicked the interview off after listening to it for just a few moments. Sorry, I just do not care for Mason at all. Actually, I don't even have a decent opinion of him. My opinion is that he is just as annoying as Baez.

MOO

GMTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love,love,love his quote about Casey before he joined the DT.......now suddenly he has done a complete turnaround about her.
Just goes to show you what a defense attorney will do for his client................... wonder if he would let ICA babysit his grandchildren???

 

[susan1215]

Since the Nanny defense is out and I have heard words from the defense like sexual abuse, parental abuse, Casey immature and then Casey rejecting her Mom's visit to the jail and not wanting her parents in the court, I think the defense is going to say Caylee accidently died (maybe in the pool) and because of Caseys tramatic childhood and Georges temper she was too afraid and immature to tell them so to block out what had happened she spent that time partying and lying. She put Caylee into the trunk untill the smell because overwhelming and then put her into the park. She will get a lot less jail time with this story and it explains the smell in the trunk and the 31 days. People can believe this might happen as oppose to those who find it hard to belive she would purposely Caylee.

Anyone else agree this might be the defenses story?

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Since the Nanny defense is out and I have heard words from the defense like sexual abuse, parental abuse, Casey immature and then Casey rejecting her Mom's visit to the jail and not wanting her parents in the court, I think the defense is going to say Caylee accidently died (maybe in the pool) and because of Caseys tramatic childhood and Georges temper she was too afraid and immature to tell them so to block out what had happened she spent that time partying and lying. She put Caylee into the trunk untill the smell because overwhelming and then put her into the park. She will get a lot less jail time with this story and it explains the smell in the trunk and the 31 days. People can believe this might happen as oppose to those who find it hard to belive she would purposely Caylee.

Anyone else agree this might be the defenses story?

I've thought alot about the theory you put out there. Thing is, ICA is going to HAVE to take the stand. She told no one about the abuse - so no witnesses there. As far as we know she wasn't seen by a Dr. for any "abuse" injuries - so Dr. (or medical records) to back up the claim. They only way to get it in there is for her to take the stand and say "yes, this is what happened, this is what "he" did to me" (whoever he the DT decides to use). MN has been very adamant that she sill tesitfy - so maybe this is the way the defense is going to go.

 

[panthera]

Since the Nanny defense is out and I have heard words from the defense like sexual abuse, parental abuse, Casey immature and then Casey rejecting her Mom's visit to the jail and not wanting her parents in the court, I think the defense is going to say Caylee accidently died (maybe in the pool) and because of Caseys tramatic childhood and Georges temper she was too afraid and immature to tell them so to block out what had happened she spent that time partying and lying. She put Caylee into the trunk untill the smell because overwhelming and then put her into the park. She will get a lot less jail time with this story and it explains the smell in the trunk and the 31 days. People can believe this might happen as oppose to those who find it hard to belive she would purposely Caylee.

Anyone else agree this might be the defenses story?

Good thoughts, however, in order for this defense to have even a remote chance of working, the claims of abuse, traumatic childhood, etc. would have to be substantiated with evidence, and/or testimony by an expert witness such as medical professional who treated Casey. I'm not sure about Casey receiving less jail time with this defense although if enough jurors were to believe it, it might spare her the DP.

MOO

 

[Feebot]

OK, HOW ABOUT THIS. Casey needed money, so she hatched a kidnap plot to get money from GA ad CA. She was taking pictures of Caylee with duct tape and got so involved that she let Caylee die. She panicked and tried to still follow the plot, but this time Caylee would not come home.

 

[thumbtack]

I think Roy Kronk is going to figure into their defense strategy.

 

[cuppy199]

OK, HOW ABOUT THIS. Casey needed money, so she hatched a kidnap plot to get money from GA ad CA. She was taking pictures of Caylee with duct tape and got so involved that she let Caylee die. She panicked and tried to still follow the plot, but this time Caylee would not come home.

They could try it but IMO it wont fly because ICA has show no remorse or feeling about Caylee what so ever. It will be extremely hard to get past the no gulit or feeling for ones child and the biggest hurdle of all would be the partying and going on with her life like Caylee never existed. Plus the 31 days and the only reason it was even reported is because of CA. I dont think a jury will buy a accident theory at all. JMO

 

[2goldfish]

GMTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love,love,love his quote about Casey before he joined the DT.......now suddenly he has done a complete turnaround about her.
Just goes to show you what a defense attorney will do for his client................... wonder if he would let ICA babysit his grandchildren???

BBM

you know what I was randomly pondering....another poster said rhornsby said he'd looked at past cases where it was CM against JA and LDB and as far as he could see, CM had never won a case against those two (plz take that with all the salt you need as it's clearly hearsay hearsay hearsay as I havent googled to verify) so I was randomly pondering that being aware of this lil gem of a factoid, and knowing she was clearly guilty as he's stated in the past, he took on the case with the knowledge he would NEVER thwart the state....just to see ICA reach her just desserts.

I like the CM in my head better than the CM with an umbrella

 

[MissJames]

I think Roy Kronk is going to figure into their defense strategy.

IIRC the DT failed to have some of their witnesses of RK's alleged prior bad acts available for the SA's to depose.The ones that were deposed ,a son,I believe,were of more value to the State than the defense.
The DT may still try to create reasonable doubt,but they are limited now as to what can come in.
It would not surprise me if the DT asks questions of RK,knowing the SA will object and HH will sustain the objection.
It plants a seed in the minds of the jurors.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Since the Nanny defense is out and I have heard words from the defense like sexual abuse, parental abuse, Casey immature and then Casey rejecting her Mom's visit to the jail and not wanting her parents in the court, I think the defense is going to say Caylee accidently died (maybe in the pool) and because of Caseys tramatic childhood and Georges temper she was too afraid and immature to tell them so to block out what had happened she spent that time partying and lying. She put Caylee into the trunk untill the smell because overwhelming and then put her into the park. She will get a lot less jail time with this story and it explains the smell in the trunk and the 31 days. People can believe this might happen as oppose to those who find it hard to belive she would purposely Caylee.

Anyone else agree this might be the defenses story?

But the duct tape....that demonizing duct tape will not say this was an accident, IMO...Unless, ICA takes the stand in her own defense and claims she came up with this scatterbrained idea, since her fear of her parents weighed heavily on her...but the State will have those video where she lost her cool, you know the one where she can't schwallow....her anger and rage she showed to them might have been what Caylee last saw...don't know how this will fly but it looks like this is the way the DT might take it...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

 

[Silkprint]

I have only heard ICA's ex lawyer say that there was no nanny . I have never heard her DT say they weren't going to stick with that . Who knows what they will say but I am betting we will all be watching Tuesday to see .

 

[allycat1208]

I think Roy Kronk is going to figure into their defense strategy.

How? Are you saying that the defense might try to blame Roy Kronk for the murder since he knew where the body was? If this is true, I cannot imagine Kronk putting himself out there for exposure by claiming to find the body. Just for the reward? Its too risky.