What Kind Of Defense for Casey in a trial?

[impatientredhead]

How would she defend all the evidence against her, particularly lying to law enforcement about everything? Could she even come up with a story that would convince a jury at all that she was looking for Caylee?

Lack of witnesses to an actual crime.
Lack of cause of death.
Lack of a body.
Car being out of her possession.
Lack of history of child abuse.
Motive? Benefit to my client? If she wanted to be free and party Cindy would have taken custody? Why kill her child (framed against pictures and video) that she clearly loved.
Acknowledge she is a liar and that she lied to the cops, family and friends right out of the gate, opening statemtent. You will not like my client. You will not approve of her judgement. I don't blame you.

That being said I fully believe she killed her intentionally, with planning to get back at Cindy for throwing her out of the house. Normal trigger for a narcissistic personality. Being told that you are horrible is not a bad thing to them, affirms their presence and power, being told you don't exist big trigger. I think she will get life at a minimum.

 

[amethyst221]

Well, she already has come up with her story, in statements to LE, which she keeps tweaking and embellishing as time goes by (Nanny, script, etc.). This has already damaged her credibility, such as it is, so she can't just abandon it at trial and tell something totally different. We've also seen Baez and family members float the ideas that DNA is unreliable, there was someone else's dead body in the trunk, and someone else put it there while the car wasn't in Casey's custody, blah blah blah. And of course the argument from their guts that Caylee is alive, which is really the wedge for defending Casey. They have to go with this, though I think a nice confession would be ever so much better.

 

[txsvicki]

Wouldn't there have to be a darn good reason to be looking up chloroform and it being in the trunk along with deceased hair and odor? This is also after being caught stealing. I don't see why they'd charge her with just manslaughter. They probably have some more evidence from computer searches to go along with this.

 

[Pink Panther]

Lack of witnesses to an actual crime
Lack of cause of death
Lack of body

Check. Check. Check. Scott Peterson is sitting on death row.

ETA - Yes, Laci's body showed up but there was so much circumstantial evidence that it simply sealed the rest of it! I so hope that Caylee shows up somehow too!

 

[impatientredhead]

Lack of witnesses to an actual crime
Lack of cause of death
Lack of body

Check. Check. Check. Scott Peterson is sitting on death row.

Bodies washed up on shore at the same place a witness saw him.

Didn't say the arguement would work, just answered the question of what possible defense does she have. Her best defense is to acknowledge the lies she has told and then argue that the state has the burden of proof and even if the state believes Caylee is deceased they haven't proved beyond a reasonable doubt Casey is the killer.

 

[Insomnia Momma]

Lack of witnesses to an actual crime
Lack of cause of death
Lack of body

Check. Check. Check. Scott Peterson is sitting on death row.

ETA - Yes, Laci's body showed up but there was so much circumstantial evidence that it simply sealed the rest of it! I so hope that Caylee shows up somehow too!

:clap:

I agree with all of this. They possibly even have premeditation on her with the chloroform in the car and the computer search for it. If they prove it was Caylee in the trunk via DNA and the hair samples with the death ring she will be gone for a LONG time. :woohoo:

All IMO, of course.

 

[suspicious mind]

if the trial started tomorrow, CA would threaten to sue the prosecutor for slander after her opening statement.

 

[Pink Panther]

I think we're still in the dark with a lot of information here. I can't believe with how much she likes to talk and with how self-important she obviously feels...that she hasn't blabbered all kinds of things to friends who might just now be hearing the penny drop!

 

[Insomnia Momma]

Bodies washed up on shore at the same place a witness saw him.

Didn't say the arguement would work, just answered the question of what possible defense does she have. Her best defense is to acknowledge the lies she has told and then argue that the state has the burden of proof and even if the state believes Caylee is deceased they haven't proved beyond a reasonable doubt Casey is the killer.

I think reasonable doubt is out the window if the rest of the results all indicate it was Caylee. Casey was the last person that anyone saw her with, decomp, Caylee's DNA, and hair with death band in trunk I think will be her undoing. If they can prove the chloroform (depending on WHAT was researched on line) the prosecution will have an even stronger case. I honestly don't see reasonable doubt. Scott Peterson had no where near this much (provable) evidence against him and look where he's at, kwim?

 

[impatientredhead]

I think reasonable doubt is out the window if the rest of the results all indicate it was Caylee. Casey was the last person that anyone saw her with, decomp, Caylee's DNA, and hair with death band in trunk I think will be her undoing. If they can prove the chloroform (depending on WHAT was researched on line) the prosecution will have an even stronger case. I honestly don't see reasonable doubt. Scott Peterson had no where near this much (provable) evidence against him and look where he's at, kwim?

I agree with you guys. I think any reasonable jury will put her away. The question I was answering was what defense does she have? Same one OJ went with, forensics are debatable and the state didn't reach the burden of proof. Trying to stick with the kidnap story has no chance at all.

 

[Sunshinegirl]

Please remember that LE and FBI have TONS of evidence that we have not heard about!!! I'm sure there is enough to convict her, body or no body!

 

[kathyn2]

OJ in no way compares to this situation. OJ was a beloved black football star. There were many black jurors that think that white people are out to get black people that acquitted him. He should never have been acquitted. The jury wasn't too bright and didn't want to convict him no matter what. The prosecution was also not too bright and did some stupid things.

Casey is not a beloved black football hero. She is probably one of the most hated women in the country and to listen to her makes you sick. There is nothing at all appealing to her. Unless she lucks out and gets 1 weirdo juror she should go down easy and spend the rest of her life in the clink if LE really has the evidence we have heard. I am surprised she hasn't been arrested. I think LE is trying to figure out if she had help and figure out the whole story before they arrest her. I pray thats what they are waiting for. I hope this is not another natalee holloway situation where the culprits go free.

I agree with you guys. I think any reasonable jury will put her away. The question I was answering was what defense does she have? Same one OJ went with, forensics are debatable and the state didn't reach the burden of proof. Trying to stick with the kidnap story has no chance at all.

 

[diane952]

I seriously think KC will make accusations and blame her mother before this is over.
Seriously! Theres your irony..Cindy has defended her all along and will have to defend herself against her..
We dont have to wish bad things on this family for thier behavior. They will implode themselves.
jmo

 

[LetJusticePrevail]

Some of the defense attorneys on NG take the position that:
- A mother capable of lies & an inability to attach doesn't make a murderer &;
- Supposed DNA proving Caylee's deceased doesn't prove KC was responsible for her death

They play the devil's advocate & so will JB. He'll argue:
- The supposed kidnappers put Caylee in the trunk to frame KC. After all, KC wasn't with the car from X time to X time &;
- It's plausible someone else did the searches on chloroform after all, KC was not the only person who used her computer. For example folks, CA & KC put the help find Caylee website together. Who's to say any of KC's family members didn't use her computer on occassion.

It's JB's job to create juror doubt by entering in different scenarios. The prosecution knows and anticipates this. And while I believe there's DNA to prove Caylee's deceased, I think an arrest will come when they have the lynch pin to dispel any of JB's reasonable explanations.

Here's why...it's my gut that the people involved in investigating this crime have begun to love Caylee very much & want, more than anyone to make sure there is not a single loophole that would compromise getting the maximum sentence for KC.

For me personally & I suspect LE, their families, the prosecution & most of the world, an arrest couldn't come soon enough. And I think, Det. Allen, Wells & Melich (even if every bone in his body were broken) will make sure they're there to greet, & escort KC to jail to await her fate. And, at that trial the prosecution will have the testimony of the key witness...which KC will have to face...& that's Caylee.

 

[D52R]

Unless little Caylee is found alive, I think the only verdict she can possibly hope for is life without the possibility of parole. In this case, I think Jose could count that as a win for the defense.

Unless he goes with an insanity defense probably involving some type of psychotic break, I think he will probably put the drug culture on trial blaming her mental state on some kind of mind-altering drugs.

Again, I think he will consider anything except the death penalty as a win unless a safe, healthy Caylee is found. If Caylee is found safe and healthy, I think she will probably get 10-20 years prison.

All of this, however, is dependent upon them being able to seat a jury without bias. It will not be easy. In fact, I think it will be easier for the jury to reach a verdict than it will be to actually select the jurors.

JMO

 

[treeseeker]

This would have to be a very last minute deal, as Baez has allowed Casey to remain in the Anthony house during the entire investigation. She'd practically have to take the stand, have a break-down, then be cross-examined.

 

[ma2patrick]

I read some of the "what ifs?", and "maybe this happened?" and "could this be a possibility?" and wonder if we aren't possibly providing Casey's atty's with a link to their defense. I may be totally off-board, but this concerns me, in our search for what happened to our angel, Caylee.

 

[EastSideOfSaddness]

I read some of the "what ifs?", and "maybe this happened?" and "could this be a possibility?" and wonder if we aren't possibly providing Casey's atty's with a link to their defense. I may be totally off-board, but this concerns me, in our search for what happened to our angel, Caylee.

Oh I'm quite sure people are taking notes.

 

[jdj8766]

It goes both ways. There have been some theories on here that could help the defense and some that could help the prosecution. Either way, without supporting evidence, they are just theories.

 

[Ezryder9]

I read some of the "what ifs?", and "maybe this happened?" and "could this be a possibility?" and wonder if we aren't possibly providing Casey's atty's with a link to their defense. I may be totally off-board, but this concerns me, in our search for what happened to our angel, Caylee.

I've wondered the same thing myself. I'm usually pretty quick to point out the number of members/guests on a thread at any particular time! I've noticed there usually are more guests than members, and I always wonder who they are!

The good side of things, though? I think we successfully blow any "what if" theory out of the water through discussions and analysis.