What Kind Of Defense for Casey in a trial?

[TURBOTHINK]

I think reasonable doubt would be easy to instill in a juror's mind.

I believe the only 'reasonable doubt" would be in a capital murder one case.

There is no doubt she put her child in the position to be killed, and that would be paramount in the mind of any juror. She will be found guilty of most likely 2nd degree depending on the defense's premise as to whether it was an accident or not.


782.04 Murder - First Degree, can have extenuating circumstances which cause it to be indicted under first degree.

Aggravated child abuse is one of them, and it seems to me that can be easily proved in this case.

Second Degree.......
The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree and constitutes a felony of the first degree, punishable by imprisonment for a term of years not exceeding life or as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

I read some of the "what ifs?", and "maybe this happened?" and "could this be a possibility?" and wonder if we aren't possibly providing Casey's atty's with a link to their defense. I may be totally off-board, but this concerns me, in our search for what happened to our angel, Caylee.

They are going to need them.........

 

[wedavis]

IMO as long as a jury knows that Casey is a bone fide pathological liar, you are right, the defense is going to need all the help they can get

 

[mysteriew]

Is defense now or will they be reading here? You betcha! The defense may even use this forum and others as a part of a bid to get a change of venue. Of course using a blog or website as a part of that bid is pretty much useless as the participants are from all over. They will count the number who say they are local. They will also bring up the local, state and national media attention that the case has drawn.

But as far as using the theories, no they are pretty much locked in to the story/stories that Casey has already given LE. To change stories midstream is to confirm that Casey is a liar and that none of her statements can be trusted. Yeah, I know she has already lied, but it would still be bad to change the story again lol.

 

[Misfit76]

I dont doubt it, which is why I usually keep detailed theories or ideas to myself instead of posting. Id feel alot more comfortable talking about things in debth if this was members only viewable. I loved the fact that guests could read here before I registered, but as a member that posts often, now I kinda wish guests couldnt read inside the threads. I know it doesnt prevent any of the A's or thier attny's from just joining up and reading but it would put a hink in things and make that much more work for someone who only wants to take notes and not participate in discussions.

 

[Jolynna]

I think the defense will be looking hard at the reasons people debunk the scientific evidence. They'll also be looking for reasons people believe Casey could NEVER have deliberately killed Caylee.

The same justifications given on this site to rationalize away damaging evidencee might resonate with some jurors.

However, prosecutors also get to see in advance what people prone to be sympathetic to a "mother" latch onto.

While it may be clear to some that Casey did it and arrest her already...that she has defenders shows how airtight the evidence is going to have to be (especially if no body is found) to secure a conviction.

In the end I think this is going to boil down to science/facts vs emotion and a reluctance to believe a "mom" capable of harming such an adorable baby.

IMO

 

[AlwaysShocked]

Where does the whole "Casey would never have done this because she loved her child" arguement stand in light of statistics that tell us that parents are the most likely people to kill their own child?

Whether she has ever been formally diagnosed or treated, just listening to her interviews with the police tells you this girl is nuts!

And I certainly think Cindy, George, and Lee knew that. I think that living with Casey's illness/personality disorder/whatever-you-want-to-call -it, and trying so hard to pretend that Casey is "normal" has made all three of the others nuts too.

 

[Jolynna]

Where does the whole "Casey would never have done this because she loved her child" arguement stand in light of statistics that tell us that parents are the most likely people to kill their own child?

Whether she has ever been formally diagnosed or treated, just listening to her interviews with the police tells you this girl is nuts!

And I certainly think Cindy, George, and Lee knew that. I think that living with Casey's illness/personality disorder/whatever-you-want-to-call -it, and trying so hard to pretend that Casey is "normal" has made all three of the others nuts too.

I agree with you.

But, a jury might include some who don't want that to be true.

Reading why Caylee might be alive or Casey innocent is a look at what prosecutors are going to have to overcome.

IMO

 

[BeanE]

Where does the whole "Casey would never have done this because she loved her child" arguement stand in light of statistics that tell us that parents are the most likely people to kill their own child?

Whether she has ever been formally diagnosed or treated, just listening to her interviews with the police tells you this girl is nuts!

And I certainly think Cindy, George, and Lee knew that. I think that living with Casey's illness/personality disorder/whatever-you-want-to-call -it, and trying so hard to pretend that Casey is "normal" has made all three of the others nuts too.

Many mothers who kill their children are reported to have always appeared to love their children very much. Wish I knew the statistics on this.

There is, however, a difference between what people see on the surface, and what trained professionals see. For example, although not a trained professional, I've noticed that in pictures, when Caylee was younger, in pictures, Casey tends to look at Caylee in the pictures. As Caylee gets older, Casey tends to be looking instead at the camera and posing.

It appears that Cindy, rather than Casey, provided most of the care of Caylee.

Caylee seems to have been more attached/bonded to Cindy, than to Casey.

In the police interviews, Casey said that Caylee would be upset if she didn't see Cindy, but not if she didn't see Casey. Granted, Casey is a fountain of lies, but I wouldn't be surprised if these statements are true.

I've seen people post on here about Casey showing love for Caylee in the 'ice cream' video. I didn't. I saw Cindy showing love for Caylee, and trying to get Casey to engage with Caylee. Casey seemed to me to be 'observing' rather than 'engaged'.

Again, I'm not a professional, just somebody who tends to look at person's behavior, rather than what they, or other people, say.

My 2 cents and opinion only.

 

[ZooKeeper]

Good points made here, I have also wondered about all the posters who made remarks about Casey being "Mental" and other remarks similiar to that. Could it in some why help the defense? Of course JMO

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I have no doubt this happens. Where do you think Casey came up with her "scripted" version of the story?! I mentioned several times that she and Lee sounded like they were reading a script on the jail calls. A couple of weeks or so later...we hear she has "changed her story" to include a script. LOL I guess it sounded good to her (and I may have been right about it being scripted then).

The defense team has been all over this forum. They are taking notes and injecting reasonable doubt theories to bounce them around. They eased off considerably when the "leaks" came out from the body farm and from the test results of the DNA. (My guess is they have help from some law school class and they had to regroup.)

The thing about WS is that it is popping up all over the internet and has drawn quite a few new members plus readership. A perfect place for them to come test drive things, imo. Not to mention, people are buying into it hook, line, and sinker...which means down the road...others on the jury could too. Something to keep in mind, but the evidence will speak for itself and I believe justice will prevail over their smokescreens.

 

[momof6]

Well I know a certain bounty hunter and *heart* getting thier info from here ,so why not Casey too...

 

[BonKai]

I have no doubt this happens. Where do you think Casey came up with her "scripted" version of the story?! I mentioned several times that she and Lee sounded like they were reading a script on the jail calls. A couple of weeks or so later...we hear she has "changed her story" to include a script. LOL I guess it sounded good to her (and I may have been right about it being scripted then).

The defense team has been all over this forum. They are taking notes and injecting reasonable doubt theories to bounce them around. They eased off considerably when the "leaks" came out from the body farm and from the test results of the DNA. (My guess is they have help from some law school class and they had to regroup.)

The thing about WS is that it is popping up all over the internet and has drawn quite a few new members plus readership. A perfect place for them to come test drive things, imo. Not to mention, people are buying into it hook, line, and sinker...which means down the road...others on the jury could too. Something to keep in mind, but the evidence will speak for itself and I believe justice will prevail over their smokescreens.

Well said. :clap:

I certainly hope that justice will previal. We all saw what happened with the O.J. case. I pray that LE collected the evidence correctly and that the chain of custody was followed to the T.

KC does NOT have an insanity defense. She knows right from wrong. While she obviously has one or more mental illness, she is not legally insane.

 

[liltigress]

The versions and theories that are useful for defense is only to prove doubt.

For LE to use anything here we've posted, it's fact.

I like that.

 

[Sassynic]

I read some of the "what ifs?", and "maybe this happened?" and "could this be a possibility?" and wonder if we aren't possibly providing Casey's atty's with a link to their defense. I may be totally off-board, but this concerns me, in our search for what happened to our angel, Caylee.

Theories without evidence means nothing to a jury....

 

[SUPI]

If the defense is using websites for their upcoming case KC is in real trouble and she knows it. Any idea they have of changing any part of her story at this point is not going to fly. They sure found that out when they floated the Zany took Caylee and left a script story. Trying to change the public's view of KC as a person and mother won't work either. She could cry a river and it wouldn't work on anyone other than her family. The family credibility is shot too. If there is physical evidence (and I think there is) that is the kind of evidence Juries really like. KC is doing the smart thing and keeping her mouth shut. Too bad that the rest of the family doesn't since they do nothing than hurt KC's cause every time they utter more of their biased view of their darling daughter and the case in general. CA in particular has to be front runner in the contest for how many stupid things you can say in public. I'm sure we all have our favorite CA quotes. No, the inter net isn't big enough to provide KC with a way out of this. There will be a trial and KC will be spending the rest of her youth in the slammer.

 

[tx_Dot]

I read some of the "what ifs?", and "maybe this happened?" and "could this be a possibility?" and wonder if we aren't possibly providing Casey's atty's with a link to their defense. I may be totally off-board, but this concerns me, in our search for what happened to our angel, Caylee.

If the JB plans to 'google' his defense plan, he's got a lot of reading to do...

just searching under Caylee Anthony you get 582,000 hits.

(Results 1 - 10 of about 582,000 for caylee)

 

[MiraclesHappen]

I've thought all along that they are reading here. There are no coincidences.

Maybe Casey is passing the day in the office doing this. Not that Baez wouldn't have himself or another atty giving it the once over for tips and theories. But it may also be a way to get anyone who is too chatty, out of his hair.
I'm not convinced there is any long time experience involved with the inner office goings on. The hostility toward LE would have been toned down or balanced with some praise of their hard work and daily journey into the line of fire.

But oh yes, they are present. :read: :detective: No doubt here.

 

[Katie526]

Well I know a certain bounty hunter and *heart* getting thier info from here ,so why not Casey too...

You are correct. He is in this for the publicity. I don't think he has any credible information. Tony on the other hand, I believe has information but not sure what. Casey seemed to have responded to him at one point.

 

[magiemay]

They are going to need them.........

Totally agree with they are going to need them but on a deeper note whether or not it is a defense or not people of this mental and lying degree need to be removed from the public they are just not safe to themselves or anyone around them, JB might need to watch his own back with KC you know if she will turn on her own family he is not excluded !!! JMO