Where is George?

[Solace]

If George is smart, his next visit will be to the local psychiatrist's office to find out why he is so weak and why he is on the stand backing someone who is accusing him of sexual abuse.

I am serious.

 

[Solace]

I just hope that George is finally beginning to realize what Casey did to his precious grand child. I hope he wants to tell the truth.

It would not surprise me one bit after this trial is over and done with that George & Cindy divorce (I think this would benefit George greatly).

Heck, If I lived with Cindy, i'd be begging to be taken to the loony bin.

also, Cindy's brother Rick is going to testify right?

I would too. The family is beyond CHALLENGED. Rick is going to testify for the State. You have to listen to his interview - it is just a riot - if I can use those words in a case of this magnitude of sadness. He cannot believe Cindy who is a registered nurse did not know her daughter was seven months pregnant and looked like she was about to burst any moment. They showed up at his wedding and his son said to KC "so who's the father' and KC, he said, smiled.

 

[ynotdivein]

Folks, we're watching this thread so it doesn't descend into name-calling, bashing or worse.

Where this post lands is random.

 

[jharres]

When I look at George, I see a very conflicted man, in a very sad state who is, essentially, spineless. As such, he is angry, frustrated and blown around by the waves. He has no roots, or if he does, doesn't have the courage or fortitude to stand on them and he hates himself because of it. My hope in this is that he grows a pair and stands up, but we shall see. Who knows how defeated he really is...?

ETA - This is why I wish he would show up more to the hearings and what not. Maybe hearing the unbiased truth, in a court of law, would be what it took to push him over the edge...JMHO

 

[Solace]

When I look at George, I see a very conflicted man, in a very sad state who is, essentially, spineless. As such, he is angry, frustrated and blown around by the waves. He has no roots, or if he does, doesn't have the courage or fortitude to stand on them, but he hates himself because of it. My hope in this is that he grows a pair and stands up, but we shall see. Who knows how defeated he really is...?

Also, he is being asked to live a lie and he has acquiesced. But then again, he is use to living a lie. He wanted to confront KC about not working and Cindy nixed it.

Although, this lie is a bit larger.

 

[pip]

When I look at George, I see a very conflicted man, in a very sad state who is, essentially, spineless. As such, he is angry, frustrated and blown around by the waves. He has no roots, or if he does, doesn't have the courage or fortitude to stand on them and he hates himself because of it. My hope in this is that he grows a pair and stands up, but we shall see. Who knows how defeated he really is...?

That's in a nutshell how I see George too. Compounded by the conflict of of being prior LE as well. George is not very complicated, yet he has allowed himself to fall into a very complicated situation. I just wonder how he copes with all his internal conflict. I just don't see him as having the ability to compartmentalize like CA and ICA can so easily.

 

[jharres]

Also, he is being asked to live a lie and he has acquiesced. But then again, he is use to living a lie. He wanted to confront KC about not working and Cindy nixed it.

Although, this lie is a bit larger.

Both CA and ICA are strong willed people and I get the impression GA is not. As such, his "coping mechanism" (so to speak) has just been to keep the peace, even if it means allowing wrongs and pretending. He's been absent (whether physically or mentally) due to cowardice for so long, it's all he knows to do. Hopefully the gravity of this situation will get to him.

 

[jharres]

That's in a nutshell how I see George too. Compounded by the conflict of of being prior LE as well. George is not very complicated, yet he has allowed himself to fall into a very complicated situation. I just wonder how he copes with all his internal conflict. I just don't see him as having the ability to compartmentalize like CA and ICA can so easily.

BBM - He suppresses until he pops. This, I believe, is why we see so much misdirected anger and emotion from him. It also explains why he does so much on the sly.

 

[pip]

BBM - He suppresses until he pops. This, I believe, is why we see so much misdirected anger and emotion from him. It also explains why he does so much on the sly.

Yes, that is George's coping style. He definitely misdirects the anger. He cannot own the truth. He had better come to terms with reality, otherwise I think he may self-destruct completely. He cannot go on blaming others for his weaknesses and problems. He will eventually turn the anger on himself.

 

[Capri]

:great:

I think anything George does is done to help KC. If the defense tries to blame him, I imagine it is with his blessing.

Interesting, you may be right. I'm wondering how far GA would let it go though. There's a fine line between the DT "blaming him" and GA being incarcerated for KC. I don't think he wants to spend the rest of his life in prison, but would he, for ICA?

 

[momshrink]

Why is there speculation that he is not living at home? Has this been observed?

Has anyone monitored this family's actions since the arrest? What do they do all day? Are they looking for work? We hear about CA's church friend. Does she actually go to church? Do people see her there?

If the main motive for the murder is kc not wanting to be a mother and wanting to party, why hasn't there been more investigation to her life and that of her family's prior to '08?

I don't recall a single interview of any of her teachers. What else did she do in her teen years besides go to school? Was she in any clubs or sports? What did she do after school? What did Lee do? Were they latchkey children? Who monitored KC and Lee? She DID learn to drive. What did she do with herself after high school (besides get pregnant) all day long? Who actually worked with her at Universal when she did work there. Was was she fired?

What did George and Cindy do besides work? Did they have any friends? If so, where are they now?

I thought it was extremely interesting the day CA's supervisor gave testimony. It showed that there are other people who have observed their behavior besides LE. There have to be more people like this.

I guess I am curious because you just don't wake up one day and murder.

BBM
I wonder about all of the same things. I think ICA and LA were left on their own most of the time. I don't think they did much beside school and I don't think there was much monitoring of school work. I have wondered why we have not heard more from neighbors, long time friends, family - where are the people who knew them? Or was this an isolated family who was there, but had only surface relationships with others?
I would like to know about Caylee's dr visits. Even if she were a healthy child, she had to have well-child visits. And it is very odd that she did not have many play dates. In today's world, babies have play dates if they are not in childcare. There is a big hole where there should be information. Just saying.

 

[Solace]

Why is there speculation that he is not living at home? Has this been observed?

Has anyone monitored this family's actions since the arrest? What do they do all day? Are they looking for work? We hear about CA's church friend. Does she actually go to church? Do people see her there?

If the main motive for the murder is kc not wanting to be a mother and wanting to party, why hasn't there been more investigation to her life and that of her family's prior to '08?

I don't recall a single interview of any of her teachers. What else did she do in her teen years besides go to school? Was she in any clubs or sports? What did she do after school? What did Lee do? Were they latchkey children? Who monitored KC and Lee? She DID learn to drive. What did she do with herself after high school (besides get pregnant) all day long? Who actually worked with her at Universal when she did work there. Was was she fired?

What did George and Cindy do besides work? Did they have any friends? If so, where are they now?

I thought it was extremely interesting the day CA's supervisor gave testimony. It showed that there are other people who have observed their behavior besides LE. There have to be more people like this.

I guess I am curious because you just don't wake up one day and murder.[/QUOTE]BBM
I wonder about all of the same things. I think ICA and LA were left on their own most of the time. I don't think they did much beside school and I don't think there was much monitoring of school work. I have wondered why we have not heard more from neighbors, long time friends, family - where are the people who knew them? Or was this an isolated family who was there, but had only surface relationships with others?
I would like to know about Caylee's dr visits. Even if she were a healthy child, she had to have well-child visits. And it is very odd that she did not have many play dates. In today's world, babies have play dates if they are not in childcare. There is a big hole where there should be information. Just saying.

If you let someone lie to you to the degree the Anthony's let KC lie to them, I think it just reinforced in KC's mind that she could get away with anything. Come on who allows their daughter to be 7 months pregnant and not acknowledge it. A registered nurse allows this - please. I don't even know what to say anymore. Pulling a Dr. Vass here.

 

[jharres]

:great:

Interesting, you may be right. I'm wondering how far GA would let it go though. There's a fine line between the DT "blaming him" and GA being incarcerated for KC. I don't think he wants to spend the rest of his life in prison, but would he, for ICA?

Isn't there a difference though? For GA to take enough blame to muddy the waters in ICA's case and him being convicted for murder are entirely different. For GA to spend life in jail it would require charges be brought against him, he be tried and found guilty, which would require that a case *could* be made against him. This is not a case against GA, so even if he openly admits to murdering Caylee, it wouldn't mean an automatic conviction for GA, as he would still have to stand trial on charges against him.

 

[Solace]

Isn't there a difference though? For GA to take enough blame to muddy the waters in ICA's case and him being convicted for murder are entirely different. For GA to spend life in jail it would require charges be brought against him, he be tried and found guilty, which would require that a case *could* be made against him. This is not a case against GA, so even if he openly admits to murdering Caylee, it wouldn't mean an automatic conviction for GA, as he would still have to stand trial on charges against him.

George and Cindy already came out with a statement that he did nothing and was cleared by the State or LE. He does not appear to be going along with it to me. KC, on the other hand, may have something else in mind. The future looks bleak - she, imo, will authorize anything.

 

[SailorMoon]

interesting timing. I'm just reading the depo of Krysal Holloway. I wonder if the poor woman ever got her money back from George. Since he told Cindy he was looking for a job when he was really at her house - maybe that's where he is .

I don't know what he does while CA is in court, but I bet he's not watching the Food Channel.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/23070163/detail.html

MOO

Mel

wonder what he did with the money?? I'm sure he had money to eat.

I think he's laying low....getting read for the big ala kabaam.

 

[Phumi]

Isn't there a difference though? For GA to take enough blame to muddy the waters in ICA's case and him being convicted for murder are entirely different. For GA to spend life in jail it would require charges be brought against him, he be tried and found guilty, which would require that a case *could* be made against him. This is not a case against GA, so even if he openly admits to murdering Caylee, it wouldn't mean an automatic conviction for GA, as he would still have to stand trial on charges against him.

Exactly.

 

[Capri]

Isn't there a difference though? For GA to take enough blame to muddy the waters in ICA's case and him being convicted for murder are entirely different. For GA to spend life in jail it would require charges be brought against him, he be tried and found guilty, which would require that a case *could* be made against him. This is not a case against GA, so even if he openly admits to murdering Caylee, it wouldn't mean an automatic conviction for GA, as he would still have to stand trial on charges against him.

Yes, agreed, there is a difference. GA just should be careful what he starts lying about. It's one thing for the DT to throw him in there as a potential murderer, it's another if he gets on the stand and starts changing his story to help ICA out.

 

[pip]

I wish George would tell the truth about about the REAL reasons he left and filed for divorce. For passive/dependent George to be the one to initiate the divorce, it tells me things must have been pretty bad. It would be very illuminating.
Waiting for the book to come out, but not holding my breath.
I hope George comes clean as part of his therapy one day.
One can wish, right?

 

[lauriej]

..one of tony pipitone's comments from court yesterday:

Tony Pipitone: Cindy is here indeed. George has not been. I am told on at least one of those occasions he had a job interview. He is looking for a better job.

 

[Solace]

I wish George would tell the truth about about the REAL reasons he left and filed for divorce. For passive/dependent George to be the one to initiate the divorce, it tells me things must have been pretty bad. It would be very illuminating.
Waiting for the book to come out, but not holding my breath.
I hope George comes clean as part of his therapy one day.
One can wish, right?

The stealing had to be tremendous at that point when he left, the everyday lying. KC was down to the quarters from Caylee's piggy bank and had emptied out the account that George started for Caylee's college fund. Oh, Dad, can I get a twenty, they left the checks in the safe at Universal and the one with the key is on vacation for six months.

George: "you gotta be kiddin me" Again? Somethin doesn't sound right.

KC: "Already talked to Mom about it - she knows everything" have to go now; have a meeting".

George: Huh?