Why would the Ramseys need to stage?

[UKGuy]

UKGuy, agree: 'pure staging intended to portray the illusion JonBenet was killed in the same clothes she worn to the White's.'

However, if I remember correctly, according to Patsy (based on Police Files), JBR does NOT have bath on Christmas Day! Patsy doesn't remember when JB had the bath last time.:banghead:

jmo

OpenMind4U,
From memory, Patsy develops amnesia as she is interviewed regarding JonBenet preparing for the White's. We all know Patsy would have supervised JonBenet's bathing and dressing, since she is on record saying she did it all the time. Just on this day she forgets. Also add in the red turtleneck then we know Patsy attempted some input into precisely how JonBenet should dress. What girl does not want to have a bath, have her hair styled, and dress in some nice clothes before attending some party?


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[OpenMind4U]

OpenMind4U,
From memory, Patsy develops amnesia as she is interviewed regarding JonBenet preparing for the White's. We all know Patsy would have supervised JonBenet's bathing and dressing, since she is on record saying she did it all the time. Just on this day she forgets. Also add in the red turtleneck then we know Patsy attempted some input into precisely how JonBenet should dress. What girl does not want to have a bath, have her hair styled, and dress in some nice clothes before attending some party?

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What girl?! IMO, the daughter of Patsy!...We heared from LHP that everytime Patsy would take JB to the bathroom - she would hear a lot of screams and crying from that room....makes you wonder what kind of 'happy' time JB had there....poor soul...cannot imagine any child of age 4-6 would be happy to bleach her hair and/or curled her hair with whatever was placed on her to accomplish the 'proper look'....:banghead:...I don't believe that in JB's short life the bath time was associated with something pleasant...and I do believe her own bathroom was the room of her punishment and 'torture'...jmo

 

[DeeDee249]

DeeDee249,
Patsy said she never noticed what underwear JonBenet dressed in on Christmas Day, after bathing.

The underwear lying on the bathroom floor might be what she was wearing when she was playing on her new bike, that afternoon?

So Patsy has to claim that the Wednesday choice was a random one, since as you state, JonBenet could not read.

Also the R's cannot claim to know when JonBenet was really killed, after all, they were sound asleep upstairs.

So its either the size-12's are intended to replace Wednesday day of the week underwear worn to the White's or they are pure staging intended to portray the illusion JonBenet was killed in the same clothes she worn to the White's.

Whenever the Ramsey case files are made public, one thing I'll be looking out for: is there a missing pair of Wednesday underwear?



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In Patsy's interviews, she tells police that she knows JB definitely did NOT bathe Christmas Day.

 

[DIRK SCHILLER]

but it will be sooo disgunting a beautiful little child looking great , hair, clothes, everything perfect and smelling old pee(sorry) because it takes a lot of perfume for this not to smell, IMO

 

[UKGuy]

In Patsy's interviews, she tells police that she knows JB definitely did NOT bathe Christmas Day.

DeeDee249,
Sure, but thats my memory becoming confused with Patsy's LOL, here is the context.

19 Q. (By Mr. Kane) Here's a question
20 that was not asked, Mrs. Ramsey. Did you
21 dress JonBenet Christmas Day?
22 A. I can't remember.
23 Q. (By Mr. Levin) Mrs. Ramsey, do
24 you know whether or not she changed her
25 underwear Christmas Day?

0103
1 A. I don't know.
2 Q. We are going to assume the fact
3 that she did not take a bath because you
4 previously stated that. Would she change her
5 underwear if she didn't take a bath on
6 Christmas Day?

(SNIP)

104
12 Q. (By Mr. Levin) Do you know if
13 she changed her underwear?
14 A. I do not know.
15 Q. Would it be her routine habit or
16 practice, if she is going out for dinner at
17 friends, for her to change from head to toe,
18 including her underwear, getting dressed to
19 go out for the evening, even if she didn't
20 take a bath?
21 A. I don't know that there is any
22 particular routine. She may have. I don't
23 know.

Patsy does not want to discuss JonBenet's underwear, but will discuss stuff about the red turtleneck, mmm.

Here is Patsy on the Days-Of-The-Week, yet if she selected the Wednesday size-12's, why answer in the negative, does that not mean any pair of size-6 underwear would have satisfied the wine-cellar staging?

16 THOMAS HANEY: Did JonBenet have
17 panties with the names of each day of the week
18 on it?
19 PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-hum.
20 THOMAS HANEY: Okay. And did she
21 wear those according to the day of the week or
22 was it just kind of --
23 PATSY RAMSEY: Just whatever.
24 THOMAS HANEY: Did she know, pay
25 much attention to what day of the week it was?

0237
1 PATSY RAMSEY: No.
2 THOMAS HANEY: So whatever would
3 come out of the drawer?
4 PATSY RAMSEY: (Nodding).

I reckon the best explanation for the size-12's is that Patsy was ignorant about them. She certainly has to forget plenty and not know a lot.

Looks to me as if BR redressed JonBenet in the size-12's. And they are a Wednesday pair, because he thought they best matched the size-6 pair. Holly Smith could confirm all this. Tricia should have her on her show for an interview. Confirming that there were no size-6 Wednesday underwear in JonBenet's underwear drawer is not libellous, so no litigation should result.


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[UKGuy]

but it will be sooo disgunting a beautiful little child looking great , hair, clothes, everything perfect and smelling old pee(sorry) because it takes a lot of perfume for this not to smell, IMO

DIRK SCHILLER,
Of all the days in the year not to bathe, Christmas Day prior to a party is a very curious choice?


JonBenet would have bathed. Patsy simply did not want to say she knew what underwear JonBenet was wearing.

Which is counter to the assumption that Patsy redressed JonBenet in those size-12's, otherwise she would have been glad of an opportunity to explain away the size-12's, e.g. Oh me and JonBenet argued over what she wore to the White's, I wanted her to wear the red turtleneck to match mine, she ended up choosing the Gap top and those size-12's, because she wanted to feel grown up, I just relented

Remember when Patsy undressed JonBenet after returning from the White's, she again does know what underwear JonBenet was wearing.

Just that the R's would have obviously noted if they had been absent!


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[DeeDee249]

DeeDee249,
Sure, but thats my memory becoming confused with Patsy's LOL, here is the context.

Patsy does not want to discuss JonBenet's underwear, but will discuss stuff about the red turtleneck, mmm.

Here is Patsy on the Days-Of-The-Week, yet if she selected the Wednesday size-12's, why answer in the negative, does that not mean any pair of size-6 underwear would have satisfied the wine-cellar staging?



I reckon the best explanation for the size-12's is that Patsy was ignorant about them. She certainly has to forget plenty and not know a lot.

Looks to me as if BR redressed JonBenet in the size-12's. And they are a Wednesday pair, because he thought they best matched the size-6 pair. Holly Smith could confirm all this. Tricia should have her on her show for an interview. Confirming that there were no size-6 Wednesday underwear in JonBenet's underwear drawer is not libellous, so no litigation should result.


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I think the best explanation is that Patsy was LYING about the panties. I do not believe BR dressed her in the panties. First, I do not believe he knew where they were, and as there were NO other panties from that package in JB's drawers, this tells me that the Wednesday pair was not in the drawer We KNOW Patsy lied about the size 12 panty set because she said they had been put in her drawer- NONE were found, AND the remaining 6 pairs were sent to police STILL IN THE PACKAGE years later.
Patsy admitted JB didn't pay attention to days of the week. She wasn't reading well yet and wouldn't have chosen a pair that corresponded with the actual day of the week that day (which WAS Wednesday). Removing them from the package had to be a deliberate choice because the Wednesday pair is in the middle of the pack.
I also do not believe BR had anything to do with the staging, regardless of any involvement in the crime.
JR's fibers inside the panties tell me he was the one who pulled them up, and I believe Patsy either got them for him or told him where they were.

 

[UKGuy]

I think the best explanation is that Patsy was LYING about the panties. I do not believe BR dressed her in the panties. First, I do not believe he knew where they were, and as there were NO other panties from that package in JB's drawers, this tells me that the Wednesday pair was not in the drawer We KNOW Patsy lied about the size 12 panty set because she said they had been put in her drawer- NONE were found, AND the remaining 6 pairs were sent to police STILL IN THE PACKAGE years later.
Patsy admitted JB didn't pay attention to days of the week. She wasn't reading well yet and wouldn't have chosen a pair that corresponded with the actual day of the week that day (which WAS Wednesday). Removing them from the package had to be a deliberate choice because the Wednesday pair is in the middle of the pack.
I also do not believe BR had anything to do with the staging, regardless of any involvement in the crime.
JR's fibers inside the panties tell me he was the one who pulled them up, and I believe Patsy either got them for him or told him where they were.

DeeDee249,

I think the best explanation is that Patsy was LYING about the panties.

ITA. Given RDI, she had to fabricate some version of events. But why one that is so inconsistent with the facts on the ground, ie no size-12's in JonBenet's underwear drawer. Did Patsy think they would not look?

I do not believe BR dressed her in the panties.

Sure but who really knows who did redress JonBenet in the size-12's?

First, I do not believe he knew where they were,

That does not prevent him from discovering them by accident as he opens all the gifts in the basement, along with JonBenet?

this tells me that the Wednesday pair was not in the drawer

ITA. They were opened solely to redress JonBenet.

I also do not believe BR had anything to do with the staging, regardless of any involvement in the crime.

I fail to see why not. Even young boys can cover their tracks, redressing JonBenet is not beyond the capabilities of BR. He might have cleaned up JonBenet, redressed her then told his parents I accidently hit JonBenet or she fell over etc.

She did not become comatose as a consequence of being sexually assaulted. Whomever was responsible needed to explain her lack of response, and I was molesting her, does not sound credible.

JR's fibers inside the panties tell me he was the one who pulled them up, and I believe Patsy either got them for him or told him where they were.

JR may have pulled them up, since he might have been the person to wipe the blood away, noted by the Coroner. That still allows for the possibility that BR redressed JonBenet in the size-12's.

There is no way it was PR, otherwise she would have had a matching explanation for the size-12's.

The person who removed the size-6 underwear, ie the same person who molested her, must be the person who redressed her. But this person failed to tell Patsy I hid the used pair of size-6 underwear along with the remaining pairs of size-12 underwear. She thought they would be in her underwear drawer, so simple, thats where PR would have put them.

Its either John or BR?



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[azwriter]

DeeDee249,

ITA. Given RDI, she had to fabricate some version of events. But why one that is so inconsistent with the facts on the ground, ie no size-12's in JonBenet's underwear drawer. Did Patsy think they would not look?


Sure but who really knows who did redress JonBenet in the size-12's?


That does not prevent him from discovering them by accident as he opens all the gifts in the basement, along with JonBenet?


ITA. They were opened solely to redress JonBenet.


I fail to see why not. Even young boys can cover their tracks, redressing JonBenet is not beyond the capabilities of BR. He might have cleaned up JonBenet, redressed her then told his parents I accidently hit JonBenet or she fell over etc.

She did not become comatose as a consequence of being sexually assaulted. Whomever was responsible needed to explain her lack of response, and I was molesting her, does not sound credible.



JR may have pulled them up, since he might have been the person to wipe the blood away, noted by the Coroner. That still allows for the possibility that BR redressed JonBenet in the size-12's.

There is no way it was PR, otherwise she would have had a matching explanation for the size-12's.

The person who removed the size-6 underwear, ie the same person who molested her, must be the person who redressed her. But this person failed to tell Patsy I hid the used pair of size-6 underwear along with the remaining pairs of size-12 underwear. She thought they would be in her underwear drawer, so simple, thats where PR would have put them.

Its either John or BR?



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Great post with a thoughtful ending question.

I've often wondered, why the panties that fit JonBenet, the size 6 we believe she was wearing as part of her clothing to the White's party, were removed from her body. Were they bloody and would appear as evidence that she was molested or did these panties have some type of evidence on them that demanded they be removed to hide who may have been sexually abusing her.

The smaller size panties, if she was wearing them, needed to be hidden or destroyed as part of the cover-up. So, you are right UK, our choices are either the father or brother Burke. Unless of course it was the mystical intruder some believe committe the crime. Did that person take the panties along as a souviner? Or to hide evidence?

But then again maybe JonBenet removed them herself. Perhaps she had wet them and wanted them off. But then I think she would also want to remove the outer pants she might have been wearing.

I have to say as the years pass following her death, I forget some of the elements of the case and I need my mind to be refreshed. Any thoughts, anyone?

 

[Rashi'sDaughter]

az, My theory is that after BR violently sexually abused his sister that night and came to the realization that he had also probably killed her as well, he panicked BIG TIME. I suppose he realized that there was no choice but to inform his parents. All hell breaks loose, and the cover-up ensues. Of course JonBenet's panties that Burke pulled up after the assault had to be removed and destroyed. I agree with DeeDee and see the evidence showing JR as the one who cleaned then re-pantyied JBR. The oversize "Wednesday" panties of course were supplied by PR. MOO.

 

[UKGuy]

Great post with a thoughtful ending question.

I've often wondered, why the panties that fit JonBenet, the size 6 we believe she was wearing as part of her clothing to the White's party, were removed from her body. Were they bloody and would appear as evidence that she was molested or did these panties have some type of evidence on them that demanded they be removed to hide who may have been sexually abusing her.

The smaller size panties, if she was wearing them, needed to be hidden or destroyed as part of the cover-up. So, you are right UK, our choices are either the father or brother Burke. Unless of course it was the mystical intruder some believe committe the crime. Did that person take the panties along as a souviner? Or to hide evidence?

But then again maybe JonBenet removed them herself. Perhaps she had wet them and wanted them off. But then I think she would also want to remove the outer pants she might have been wearing.

I have to say as the years pass following her death, I forget some of the elements of the case and I need my mind to be refreshed. Any thoughts, anyone?

azwriter,
I think its safe to assume JonBenet never wore those size-12's to the White's Christmas party.

Given that Patsy says JonBenet never bathed before the party, questionable assuming the soiled pants lying on the bathroom floor are JonBenet's and not BRs?

This is relevant since it allows Patsy to deny knowing precisely what underwear JonBenet wore, in contrast to the story regarding the red turtleneck.

The person who could solve all this at a stroke is BR, but he is not talking, he would know if JonBenet changed into a nightgown prior to having her pineapple snack, which might skew the probabilities that she changed her underwear.

Now if JonBenet's internal injuries are a result of the initial sexual assault, i.e. not staging, then this might explain away the size-12's, on the grounds of staging?

Otherwise you are forced to assume that JonBenet's size-6 underwear were forensically contaminated, leaving the stagers no option but to remove them from her body.

Prima facie it appears that the size-12's represent a variation on the staging, and the choice of the size-12's is deliberate since the longjohns were sourced at the same location where her size-6 underwear could be found, with the latter being ignored.

The subject of the size-12 underwear, for some reason, was not directly communicated between the parents, otherwise Patsy would have had better answers prepared for her interview.

So either its a simple Gotcha on the parents part, a mistake in the panic to deal with whatever, or one parent was deliberately concealing something from the other?

So the view I take these days is that the Wednesay pair was selected by a male Ramsey in an attempt to make her underwear match what she wore to the White's?

If it had been Patsy she would have just gone upstairs to JonBenet's underwear drawer and selected any pair of size-6 Bloomingdales. The day of the week, is obstensibly, only relevant to the Ramseys.


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[midwest mama]

azwriter,
I think its safe to assume JonBenet never wore those size-12's to the White's Christmas party.

Given that Patsy says JonBenet never bathed before the party, questionable assuming the soiled pants lying on the bathroom floor are JonBenet's and not BRs?

This is relevant since it allows Patsy to deny knowing precisely what underwear JonBenet wore, in contrast to the story regarding the red turtleneck.

The person who could solve all this at a stroke is BR, but he is not talking, he would know if JonBenet changed into a nightgown prior to having her pineapple snack, which might skew the probabilities that she changed her underwear.

Now if JonBenet's internal injuries are a result of the initial sexual assault, i.e. not staging, then this might explain away the size-12's, on the grounds of staging?

Otherwise you are forced to assume that JonBenet's size-6 underwear were forensically contaminated, leaving the stagers no option but to remove them from her body.

Prima facie it appears that the size-12's represent a variation on the staging, and the choice of the size-12's is deliberate since the longjohns were sourced at the same location where her size-6 underwear could be found, with the latter being ignored.

The subject of the size-12 underwear, for some reason, was not directly communicated between the parents, otherwise Patsy would have had better answers prepared for her interview.

So either its a simple Gotcha on the parents part, a mistake in the panic to deal with whatever, or one parent was deliberately concealing something from the other?

So the view I take these days is that the Wednesay pair was selected by a male Ramsey in an attempt to make her underwear match what she wore to the White's?

If it had been Patsy she would have just gone upstairs to JonBenet's underwear drawer and selected any pair of size-6 Bloomingdales. The day of the week, is obstensibly, only relevant to the Ramseys.


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bbm

Perhaps Patsy had to help JB clean up a bit (soiled underwear found) and put on fresh panties before also 'having a tiff' with her about not wearing the red turtleneck she wanted her to wear for the party?

Patsy said she bought new Bloomies for JB during her trip to NY before the holidays, so she might have helped JB pick out some new size 6 Weds. Bloomies to wear to the party, knowing JB might get some help in the bathroom and whoever might see them would think it very chic that JB was wearing her Weds. panties on that Weds. Christmas.

So, if someone other than Patsy had to replace her size 6 undies to redress her, they would have gladly put on the other Weds. panties thinking Patsy might not notice they were size 12's (and be tipped off as to the vaginal injuries) - especially if they were under a pair of long johns?

 

[UKGuy]

bbm

Perhaps Patsy had to help JB clean up a bit (soiled underwear found) and put on fresh panties before also 'having a tiff' with her about not wearing the red turtleneck she wanted her to wear for the party?

Patsy said she bought new Bloomies for JB during her trip to NY before the holidays, so she might have helped JB pick out some new size 6 Weds. Bloomies to wear to the party, knowing JB might get some help in the bathroom and whoever might see them would think it very chic that JB was wearing her Weds. panties on that Weds. Christmas.

So, if someone other than Patsy had to replace her size 6 undies to redress her, they would have gladly put on the other Weds. panties thinking Patsy might not notice they were size 12's (and be tipped off as to the vaginal injuries) - especially if they were under a pair of long johns?

midwest mama,
This is precisely what I think happened. The assumption that Patsy dressed JonBenet in a Wednesday pair of Bloomingdales is credible, but only the BPD know if there is a missing pair of size-6 Wednesday Bloomingdales.

 

[DeeDee249]

midwest mama,
This is precisely what I think happened. The assumption that Patsy dressed JonBenet in a Wednesday pair of Bloomingdales is credible, but only the BPD know if there is a missing pair of size-6 Wednesday Bloomingdales.

We don't even know if there WAS a Bloomies panty set in size 6. Patsy is vague about whether she purchased one or two sets, and it doesn't seem like anyone tried to find out (credit card records, receipts, etc). Though police mentioned collecting all her panties from her drawer and finding only sizes 4-6 fecal stained pairs, they never mentioned whether any of them were Bloomies Day Of The Week Panties. If there were, and the Wednesday pair IS missing- it solves the puzzle of why the replacement pair said "Wednesday".

 

[UKGuy]

We don't even know if there WAS a Bloomies panty set in size 6. Patsy is vague about whether she purchased one or two sets, and it doesn't seem like anyone tried to find out (credit card records, receipts, etc). Though police mentioned collecting all her panties from her drawer and finding only sizes 4-6 fecal stained pairs, they never mentioned whether any of them were Bloomies Day Of The Week Panties. If there were, and the Wednesday pair IS missing- it solves the puzzle of why the replacement pair said "Wednesday".

DeeDee249,
Yes, I think I suggested as much above.

I think the Bloomingdales aspect is overrated, but obviously the day of the week is very important. I contend that the day of the week only matters to the Ramseys and nobody else.

So Bloomingdales or not. If JonBenet has a set of underwear with a missing Wednesday pair then this is prima facie evidence, its not a smoking gun, but given what we know, its the next best thing.

The next big question given what we now know, i.e. fecal stained underwear, fecal stained bed sheets, fecal deposits left on objects, is why would Patsy not confirm that she did indeed purchase a size-6 set of Bloomingdales for JonBenet?

Whats the percentage in applying amnesia here? Particularly if there are Six pairs to be found in her underwear drawer, but no size-12's which she confirms she purchased and placed into JonBenet's underwear drawer?

Were size-6 underwear purchased then removed from her underwear drawer, i.e. the staging encompassed the underwear also?


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[midwest mama]

We don't even know if there WAS a Bloomies panty set in size 6. Patsy is vague about whether she purchased one or two sets, and it doesn't seem like anyone tried to find out (credit card records, receipts, etc). Though police mentioned collecting all her panties from her drawer and finding only sizes 4-6 fecal stained pairs, they never mentioned whether any of them were Bloomies Day Of The Week Panties. If there were, and the Wednesday pair IS missing- it solves the puzzle of why the replacement pair said "Wednesday".

DeeDee - This is the statement from Patsy that led me to believe JB could have been wearing a Wednesday pair of undies on Christmas Day:

Did JBR Own Smaller Day-of-the-Week Bloomies?
In her June 24, 1998 interview, Patsy was asked the following by Thomas Haney: "Did JonBenet have panties with the names of each day of the week on it?" PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-hum. THOMAS HANEY: Okay. And did she wear those according to the day of the week or was it just kind of -- PATSY RAMSEY: Just whatever. THOMAS HANEY: Did she know, pay much attention to what day of the week it was? PATSY RAMSEY: No. THOMAS HANEY: So whatever would come out of the drawer? PATSY RAMSEY: (Nodding). Transcript (236:16-25; 237:1-4). Note that no indication was given whether these were Bloomies or some other brand.

I wondered if Patsy just did not want to fess up to knowing about JB wearing "Wednesdays" if she did help JB get dressed, which I interpreted from this statement:

4 Q. (By Mr. Morrissey) Mrs. Ramsey,
5 prior to going to the Whites, did you see
6 JonBenet in panties? In other words, were
7 you at any point, prior to going to the
8 Whites, in the process of her getting
9 dressed, did you ever see if she was wearing
10 panties?
11 A. I mean, I just probably didn't
12 notice. I would, she must have had them on
13 or I would have certainly noticed if she
14 didn't have any on.

If Patsy knew she was wearing "Wednesday" when she went to the Whites, then there would be several reasons why the redressed replacement pair would have made more sense being "Wednesday", especially with one of the R's doing the redressing?

 

[belimom]

Regarding another question brought up (why didn't they remove her and let that be it?)....

Removing JBR from the home would surely leave less evidence, a longer kidnapping investigation/search, which would in turn mean that as time passed by, evidence would be deteriorating as the clock ticked.

I think they did think of removing her, hence wrapping her in a blanket, maybe. But decided against it: the neighbors may hear/see them coming/going at odd hours of the night. I believe they weighed the odds and decided to hide her as best they could.

Honestly, I think they may have thought LE would eventually leave, then they could just sneak out later - with JBR. I think JR eventually got antsy and "found" her b/c they realized he and Patsy could not go on much longer - and that eventually an odor would emanate from the basement.

Again, why not just let her stay hidden in that wine cellar forever - until LE either discovered her or left? Even if her body began to deteriorate, more and more forensic evidence would also be deteriorating. I think "discovering" her was not part of the original plan, but was Plan B. JMHO

 

[Darlene733510]

I think they may have thought of removing her body from the house, but they had a light snow there, and the tracks of the car in the snow would have been noticed. I also agree they may have been noticed by some of the neighbors.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

I think they may have thought of removing her body from the house, but they had a light snow there, and the tracks of the car in the snow would have been noticed. I also agree they may have been noticed by some of the neighbors.

Also, Patsy was all about appearances, and just imagine the condition of JonBenet's body if it was exposed to the elements. I do think they had to be pretty confident that they would get away with this, because leaving the body in the house is very risky. There have been many recent cases where the parent probably killed the child, and then dumped the body outside.

 

[UKGuy]

DeeDee - This is the statement from Patsy that led me to believe JB could have been wearing a Wednesday pair of undies on Christmas Day:

Did JBR Own Smaller Day-of-the-Week Bloomies?
In her June 24, 1998 interview, Patsy was asked the following by Thomas Haney: "Did JonBenet have panties with the names of each day of the week on it?" PATSY RAMSEY: Uh-hum. THOMAS HANEY: Okay. And did she wear those according to the day of the week or was it just kind of -- PATSY RAMSEY: Just whatever. THOMAS HANEY: Did she know, pay much attention to what day of the week it was? PATSY RAMSEY: No. THOMAS HANEY: So whatever would come out of the drawer? PATSY RAMSEY: (Nodding). Transcript (236:16-25; 237:1-4). Note that no indication was given whether these were Bloomies or some other brand.

I wondered if Patsy just did not want to fess up to knowing about JB wearing "Wednesdays" if she did help JB get dressed, which I interpreted from this statement:

4 Q. (By Mr. Morrissey) Mrs. Ramsey,
5 prior to going to the Whites, did you see
6 JonBenet in panties? In other words, were
7 you at any point, prior to going to the
8 Whites, in the process of her getting
9 dressed, did you ever see if she was wearing
10 panties?
11 A. I mean, I just probably didn't
12 notice. I would, she must have had them on
13 or I would have certainly noticed if she
14 didn't have any on.

If Patsy knew she was wearing "Wednesday" when she went to the Whites, then there would be several reasons why the redressed replacement pair would have made more sense being "Wednesday", especially with one of the R's doing the redressing?

midwest mama,
From memory the same question was put to Patsy when interviewed about putting JonBenet to bed and changing her into the longjohns and she gave the same answer: "I would have noticed if she had not been wearing any."

Consider Patsy's answer, she is suggesting JonBenet would wear whatever came to hand, i.e. Wednesday is not important.

I wondered if Patsy just did not want to fess up to knowing about JB wearing "Wednesdays" if she did help JB get dressed, which I interpreted from this statement:

Patsy cannot fess up to knowing, because to do so would mean Patsy would know if JonBenet wore Bloomingdales size-12 to the White's! Again note the Day Of The Week, Wednesday is peripheral.

So any BPD Detectives, when questioning guests at the White's party, might ask did you see what Day Of The Week underwear JonBenet was wearing? If someone answered Wednesday what does that tell you, since it might be a size-6 pink pair of whatever brand?

So from an investigative perspective the important aspect is the size of the underwear.

Now from a perpetrators perspective it might be that the Day Of The Week is more important than the size, i.e. the perpetrator was attempting to recreate JonBenet's appearance prior to her head injury, by making sure JonBenet was wearing a Wednesday pair. And to hide the size aspect this person redressed JonBenet in the longjohns, hoping if they were pulled down the viewer would see the correct Day Of The Week?

So if Patsy is dissembling above its to avoid having to state what size of underwear JonBenet wore to the White's, not the Day Of The Week.

I contend that the Day Of The Week only matters to the Ramseys nobody else. Patsy would never have dressed JonBenet in those size-12's, she would have realized how obviously staged it would look.

So it was either Burke or John Ramsey who redressed JonBenet in those size-12's?

Lastly if Patsy did indeed dress JonBenet for the White's, which I think she did, then theoretically, she will be the only person to know what underwear JonBenet wore.

So if Patsy was faced with selecting underwear to redress JonBenet in, then the Day Of The Week being a Wednesday is not important, just the correct size, because its only Patsy who knows what she orignally wore.

Also JonBenet may have wore Bloomingdales or some other brand, size-6, which were Wednesday Day Of The Week. And her head injury may have been sustained, say about 12:30 am, and later asphyxiated in the wine-cellar. Redressing JonBenet in a Wednesday Day Of The Week pair of underwear cannot in any manner prove she must have died on the Wednesday!


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