WI - ICE seeks help to ID youth in photos #2 - Identified

[Jules71]

Welcome to all the lurkers! Thanks for posting!

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[T4Tide]

The kid in the purple, JG, does not look like him to me.

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[poppyfrock]

I looked at the fb Rosarra mentioned and that boy, plus all the boys on his friend's list matched unidentified boy in my eyes. (Not really all his friends, but a bunch) I think this means I'm going crazy. Not saying that Rosarra's connection was wrong at all. She could be onto something. Just the fact that he AND his friends became a match in my eyes makes me feel I'm going nuts and wish there was a better pic of unidentified for me to compare with.

I saw the better cropped photos of unidentified the other day, but I too, have already forgotten what he looks like. I remember when I saw them I thought "That doesn't look like the kid in the image released." So, I remember that he looked different, but I don't remember what he looked like. So, I'm looking at all these kids on their fb pages and comparing them to the released image and start thinking "Well, if unidentified's eyes are closer together then they appear to be in the released image and he was looking straight ahead he would look EXACTLY like this boy."

So, I am having to distort the unidentified's image in my mind to see if he matches non distorted pictures of boys and it's really messing me up. I have no idea if he matches any of the kids cause I don't remember what he really looks like.

ETA: I'm not sure the above post made any sense, but what I mean by I am distorting unidentified's image in my mind is I'm staring at him and imagining his eyes being closer together and him looking different than he does in the actual image I'm looking at. AND THEN seeing if the distorted image I'm imagining matches any of the boys on facebook. And of course he matches them all! When you are trying to remember what he looks like from a picture that doesn't look like him, he starts to look like every boy.

 

[Jules71]

I looked at the fb Rosarra mentioned and that boy, plus all the boys on his friend's list matched unidentified boy in my eyes. (Not really all his friends, but a bunch) I think this means I'm going crazy. Not saying that Rosarra's connection was wrong at all. She could be onto something. Just the fact that he AND his friends became a match in my eyes makes me feel I'm going nuts and wish there was a better pic of unidentified for me to compare with.

I saw the better cropped photos of unidentified the other day, but I too, have already forgotten what he looks like. I remember when I saw them I thought "That doesn't look like the kid in the image released." So, I remember that he looked different, but I don't remember what he looked like. So, I'm looking at all these kids on their fb pages and comparing them to the released image and start thinking "Well, if unidentified's eyes are closer together then they appear to be in the released image and he was looking straight ahead he would look EXACTLY like this boy."

So, I am having to distort the unidentified's image in my mind to see if he matches non distorted pictures of boys and it's really messing me up. I have no idea if he matches any of the kids cause I don't remember what he really looks like.

ETA: I'm not sure the above post made any sense, but what I mean by I am distorting unidentified's image in my mind is I'm staring at him and imagining his eyes being closer together and him looking different than he does in the actual image I'm looking at. AND THEN seeing if the distorted image I'm imagining matches any of the boys on facebook. And of course he matches them all! When you are trying to remember what he looks like from a picture that doesn't look like him, he starts to look like every boy.

EXACTLY!!! I could not have said it any better! Goodnight all! I hope someone identifies him soon.

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[Public_Hysteria]

I'm not sure the above post made any sense, but what I mean by I am distorting unidentified's image in my mind is I'm staring at him and imagining his eyes being closer together and him looking different than he does in the actual image I'm looking at. AND THEN seeing if the distorted image I'm imagining matches any of the boys on facebook. And of course he matches them all! When you are trying to remember what he looks like from a picture that doesn't look like him, he starts to look like every boy.

*snipped by me*

I wonder why they didn't release a clearer picture of the boy? Surely they could have cropped it like they have the released pictures so as to not show exactly what was going on (or the other child) in the picture? As you say, it's ridiculously difficult to match him up with pictures we have, knowing that he may not look exactly as he appears. I haven't seen the other pictures, so I only have these two to go by, but it's really throwing me that this may not even be what he looks like.

He looks familiar to me, but I highly doubt it's for good reason considering I live so far away. I think it's because the picture isn't very clear and his features aren't recognisable enough... so really, he could be any teenage boy (bearing in mind that others have said his eyes really aren't as oddly spaced as they seem).

 

[Redneckspirithunter]

Hello all, I'm a new member. I was reading through this thread and case and was hoping someone could give me updated information on it. What I know is that this is a still shot from a YouTube video in which this teen boy assaults a young girl, possibly forced to do so by an unidentified adult. I heard someone has found the boys Facebook page? Could someone share it with me. I also heard ICE thinks he's from Minnesota, which doesn't surprise me because Minnesota has a large underground child and sex trade ring.

 

[kimmie0313]

On YouTube? Really?! Are those kind of videos allowed to be uploaded to that site? I'm not a youtuber so I would have no idea.

 

[Cappuccino]

On YouTube? Really?! Are those kind of videos allowed to be uploaded to that site? I'm not a youtuber so I would have no idea.

Of course not! That's an error in the above post, child on You Tube would be pulled down and reported to the police in a heartbeat.

 

[Rosarra]

I heard someone has found the boys Facebook page? Could someone share it with me.

Good morning : )

I just wanted to say that, as far as I've seen this morning, he's still unidentified and his Facebook or anything else hasn't been found.

 

[LadyL]

ok, I have two questions:

1. for those who have seen the other stills from the video - do those photos look like any of the missing boys we've considered (specifically Taylor)?

2. I've seen it mentioned that CNN & MSNBC have other stills from the video up on their sites - is this true or is it only the released images? I'd go look but I'm afraid to after reading what others said about the unreleased images (I know they would be cropped but still ...)

 

[Elley Mae]

ok, I have two questions:

1. for those who have seen the other stills from the video - do those photos look like any of the missing boys we've considered (specifically Taylor)?

2. I've seen it mentioned that CNN & MSNBC have other stills from the video up on their sites - is this true or is it only the released images? I'd go look but I'm afraid to after reading what others said about the unreleased images (I know they would be cropped but still ...)

Everyone sees things that others do not. With that said I don't see a match. jmo

 

[LadyL]

k, went to CNN & MSNBC and cannot find any unreleased images ...

 

[believe09]

I dont think he is Taylor-I think Taylor has a very distinct face shape...I think Taylor was a good possible match prior to seeing the other stills fwiw.

I still have some interest in this one-

http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

I am also interested in a non missing teen who is associated with TD's myspace page. I cannot link him because we dont do that on WS.

 

[tlcya]

Hello all, I'm a new member. I was reading through this thread and case and was hoping someone could give me updated information on it. What I know is that this is a still shot from a YouTube video in which this teen boy assaults a young girl, possibly forced to do so by an unidentified adult. I heard someone has found the boys Facebook page? Could someone share it with me. I also heard ICE thinks he's from Minnesota, which doesn't surprise me because Minnesota has a large underground child and sex trade ring.

:welcome: Redneckspirithunter

 

[Mandy113]

Regarding the video being on You Tube & if other images are available from MSM, I may be able to clarify it a bit.

I don't believe it was ever said the video in which this boy was seen was on You Tube. The pictures released by ICE were said to be stills from a video. I believe the majority think the video was taken with a webcam. Since many things get posted to You Tube are videos from webcams, perhaps that caused confusion.

Last week one of our brilliant Sleuthers (apologies since I don't recall who it was) followed a comment made on the article posted on MSNBC's website. It led them to set of still pictures which apparently came from this particular video. The pictures were graphic and disturbing. (Not sure what else I'm allowed to say about them ... I did not view them) Our Sleuther saw some pics on that particular site which showed the boy's face a bit more clearly. However, at WS we are only allowed to post the pictures ICE released to MSM. Unless, ICE releases more info or new pics, this is what we have to work with for now.

HTH ... and please correct me fellow posters if my recap is wrong.

JMO ... and what I recall from my reading.

ETA - as of this morning the boy is still on ICE's home page as a person in need they need to identify FWIW

http://www.ice.gov/index.htm

 

[~n/t~]

Regarding the video being on You Tube & if other images are available from MSM, I may be able to clarify it a bit.

I don't believe it was ever said the video in which this boy was seen was on You Tube. The pictures released by ICE were said to be stills from a video. I believe the majority think the video was taken with a webcam. Since many things get posted to You Tube are videos from webcams, perhaps that caused confusion.

Last week one of our brilliant Sleuthers (apologies since I don't recall who it was) followed a comment made on the article posted on MSNBC's website. It led them to set of still pictures which apparently came from the this particular video. The pictures were graphic and disturbing. (Not sure what else I'm allowed to say about them ... I did not view them) Our Sleuther saw some pics on that particular site which showed the boy's face a bit more clearly. However, at WS we are only allowed to post the pictures ICE released to MSM. Unless, ICE releases more info or new pics, this is what we have to work with for now.

HTH ... and please correct me fellow posters if my recap is wrong.

JMO ... and what I recall from my reading.

I went back to that MSNBC comment and it appears the photos were removed. Does anyone know where else I can find them? TIA

 

[~n/t~]

Why would ICE be involved? Is this child not a US Citizen? Just wondering.

 

[Mandy113]

If you check the ICE website for the overview of their activities, I think it gives a good idea why they may be involved. Operation Predator/Child Exploitation is just one of the types of investigations involving them.

http://www.ice.gov/about/overview/#

HTH

 

[believe09]

Thanks, Mandy. I agree with everyone who believes this video was located as part of a larger sting. Or a sting against an individual. IIRC we have heard and read from other sleuthers that the video has been around. It may have been posted at 4chan, taken down and reported.

 

[Elley Mae]

Why would ICE be involved? Is this child not a US Citizen? Just wondering.

I for one have been led to believe that the boy, male teen in question is and or could be in a dangerous situation with a minor female child another child and possible an adult. So it would seem that there is some kind of child going on for ICE to be involved. As far as the male teen in question it is not known if he is us citizen or not, ICE seem to think he is/maybe in the Minnesota. Wisconsin area. hope that help, and hope they find them soon.