WI WI - James Yoblonski, 13, took family's car, found on USH 12, may be in Devil's Lake State Park area, Baraboo, 12 Jun 2023 *reward*

[FromGermany1]

What happened to James Yoblonski? Wisconsin father consults psychics to find missing son

William Yoblonski thinks that his missing son, James, 13, may be in Colorado or Montana based on suspicions from a psychic.

madison.com

He (father) said he believes students at James’ former school, Jack Young Middle School in Baraboo, or their family members may know something about James’ disappearance. He said James was suspended twice late in the 2022-23 school year. The school district confirmed that James was a student at the middle school but did not respond to questions about the suspensions.

 

[Lusitana]

Why would his father share that he was suspended from school twice?

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Maybe a way of saying he feels his son was hanging out with kids who weren't exactly a positive influence? Then his son gets suspended.
And he wonders what those kids might know about James' disappearance. JMO.

 

[Teamir]

In my opinion, it’s two possible scenarios:
1 - a mental break
2 - two other people were involved

His actions that night were such an odd mix of disorganized and organized. Organized in that he prepared with backpack, bags, phone. Disorganized in the driving route he took and disorganized in the campsite location and setup.

What if there were two other individuals driving a different vehicle. What if he had discussed living off grid with them, and they humored him in order to get the gun; James is thinking he has off grid camping buddies. They all drove to his dads business to get the gun, started driving north, stopped, killed James, then one of the perpetrators drove James’ vehicle to where it was found and dumped James’ belongings in the woods. Trying to make it look like James was in the Devils Lake area.

Because no one who’s read survival books would’ve chosen that campsite, not set it up that way, and no one trying to hide would leave a car on a very busy state highway.

I think that vehicle, phone, and the straps on James items should be checked for fingerprints and DNA. And I think they should search for his body at the spot furthest northeast that they tracked the cell phone.

 

[Keiri]

What happened to James Yoblonski? Wisconsin father consults psychics to find missing son

William Yoblonski thinks that his missing son, James, 13, may be in Colorado or Montana based on suspicions from a psychic.

madison.com

Just after 3 a.m. that same morning, James arrived at his father’s golf cart business, and 54 minutes later, he drove away from the shop.
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..... if you also didn't know and are interested.

Good catch!

 

[FromGermany1]

Why would his father share that he was suspended from school twice?

You usually know a classmate like that throughout the whole school. You can assume, that they knew more about him than his family/father. To tell something useful was probably, what the father wanted to nudge.

 

[Quoththeraven]

Because no one who’s read survival books would’ve chosen that campsite, not set it up that way, and no one trying to hide would leave a car on a very busy state highway.

IMO, that's exactly why I think those two campsites were staged. They wanted people to find the vehicle, find the 'campsites' and find his father's cellphone. You think a 13 year old would be able to stage two campsites? All we saw of those campsites was a news photo of a piece of clothing laying on the ground. Were there even remains of a campfire, evidence of food being eaten? Other clothing left at the first campsite, according to the father, was clothing that James never wore.

And then there's the problem of the dogs picking up any scent leading from the campsite into the woods. There wasn't any. The scent ended at the highway. That means there was at least a second person. An adult. And another vehicle.

And what of the second campsite? Was there any scent left there? What did that campsite consist of? Police were pretty vague on that one, including the exact location.

I'd also factor in his two suspensions late in the 2022-23 school year. The school year in the United States typically ends in late May or early June. So, late in the school year means right before school let out. Whatever those incidents were, they were probably related to James' disappearance. That includes the outcome of those incidents.

I think James was coerced into leaving home. Someone who had a strong enough influence to manipulate him and the ability to groom and coach him. An adult in a position of authority over him. I think we're looking at a child predator.

All in my opinion, of course.

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[atomicsciencegal]

IMO, that's exactly why I think those two campsites were staged. They wanted people to find the vehicle, find the 'campsites' and find his father's cellphone. You think a 13 year old would be able to stage two campsites? All we saw of those campsites was a news photo of a piece of clothing laying on the ground. Were there even remains of a campfire, evidence of food being eaten? Other clothing left at the first campsite, according to the father, was clothing that James never wore.

And then there's the problem of the dogs picking up any scent leading from the campsite into the woods. There wasn't any. The scent ended at the highway. That means there was at least a second person. An adult. And another vehicle.

And what of the second campsite? Was there any scent left there? What did that campsite consist of? Police were pretty vague on that one, including the exact location.

I'd also factor in his two suspensions late in the 2022-23 school year. The school year in the United States typically ends in late May or early June. So, late in the school year means right before school let out. Whatever those incidents were, they were probably related to James' disappearance. That includes the outcome of those incidents.

I think James was coerced into leaving home. Someone who had a strong enough influence to manipulate him and the ability to groom and coach him. An adult in a position of authority over him. I think we're looking at a child predator.

All in my opinion, of course.

Grooming: Know the Warning Signs | RAINN

One tool common to those who sexually abuse kids and teens is grooming: manipulative behaviors that the abuser uses to gain access to a potential victim, coerce them to agree to the abuse, and reduce the risk of being caught. Though grooming can take many different forms, it often follows a...

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Hard agree with all of your points. Great post.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

if there were two other individuals driving a different vehicle. What if he had discussed living off grid with them

Why do you think there were possibly two other individuals involved, as opposed to one?

Why would they bother to stage campsites and even the phone, instead of just dumping the phone, abandoning the vehicle away from any crime scene, and hightailing it out of there?

And how might school suspensions be related to his disappearance?

 

[Centaurus]

If you do a little digging online, you can find more information and a SnapChat video that was made by James and posted to his account. I don't think anyone else was involved in his disappearance. The videos of him walking to the vehicle alone, getting the gun alone, owning the survival books. What would someone's motive be? And then to "stage" these elaborate campsites. Why?

Occam's Razor.

 

[Keiri]

If you do a little digging online, you can find more information and a SnapChat video that was made by James and posted to his account. I don't think anyone else was involved in his disappearance. The videos of him walking to the vehicle alone, getting the gun alone, owning the survival books. What would someone's motive be? And then to "stage" these elaborate campsites. Why?

Occam's Razor.

Just my opinion, I agree with part of this. I think he did most, if not all of it, alone, I also think if they rattle his friends and maybe his mom a little, they’ll get some answers. The partner who set up camps (If he didn’t do it alone ahead of time) may be discovered. We know LE talked to immediate family but we don’t know how much was discussed with mom or friends. I don’t think he’s in the park, but he’s hiding very well if he’s alive. This kid is sharp and savvy and surely upset about being suspended. I think we assume he can’t do it due to his age, but I think he may well have. In fact, I’m hoping he did pull one over on us and is out there in hiding. Because that means he’s alive.

I wonder what destination he had in mind out of state.

 

[acutename]

Just my opinion, I agree with part of this. I think he did most, if not all of it, alone, I also think if they rattle his friends and maybe his mom a little, they’ll get some answers. The partner who set up camps (If he didn’t do it alone ahead of time) may be discovered. We know LE talked to immediate family but we don’t know how much was discussed with mom or friends. I don’t think he’s in the park, but he’s hiding very well if he’s alive. This kid is sharp and savvy and surely upset about being suspended. I think we assume he can’t do it due to his age, but I think he may well have. In fact, I’m hoping he did pull one over on us and is out there in hiding. Because that means he’s alive.

I wonder what destination he had in mind out of state.

south for the winter but once he left the van, no vehicle, no license, so ....

 

[Keiri]

south for the winter but once he left the van, no vehicle, no license, so ....

The no license didn’t bother him when he stole his dad’s van. Maybe he took another person’s vehicle.

 

[Angelcat13]

Why do you think there were possibly two other individuals involved, as opposed to one?

Why would they bother to stage campsites and even the phone, instead of just dumping the phone, abandoning the vehicle away from any crime scene, and hightailing it out of there?

And how might school suspensions be related to his disappearance?

“Why would they bother to stage campsites and even the phone, instead of just dumping the phone, abandoning the vehicle away from any crime scene, and hightailing it out of there?”

I wonder about this, too. I am not saying that he was groomed/lured by a predator, but IF he was what could the manner of his disappearance indicate?

If a predator orchestrated the disappearance - told James to search certain things on his computer, helped set-up the actual leaving of the home, staged the campsites, etc - would it make it more likely that this person was NOT a stranger and may be someone local and/or known to the family?

It just seems that this could mean the person was trying to lead an investigation into a false direction. I would think a stranger luring wouldn’t feel the need for such an elaborate ruse.

If anyone here has experience and/or expertise in grooming/luring I would love to hear your thoughts.

 

[JennieM]

Maybe the staging makes more sense if James was murdered.

 

[iusedtofloat]

i think this case is devastatingly straight forward and people just dont want to believe a kid this young would do this

 

[Teamir]

Why do you think there were possibly two other individuals involved, as opposed to one?

Why would they bother to stage campsites and even the phone, instead of just dumping the phone, abandoning the vehicle away from any crime scene, and hightailing it out of there?

And how might school suspensions be related to his disappearance?

Two people because some had to drive James’ vehicle to that spot and then get a ride home with the second perp. Staging campsites to make it look like he went off grid to align with what his friends knew about his interests. School suspensions just speak to what type of crowd he hung with. All in my opinion.

 

[JennieM]

i think this case is devastatingly straight forward and people just dont want to believe a kid this young would do this

If he killed himself, wouldn’t his body been found by now?

 

[Keiri]

Why did we think they were staged in advance and not when he got there? Because of the scenting dogs? I forget.

 

[Keiri]

If he killed himself, wouldn’t his body been found by now?

I mean, look at Carvell Jennings and Shannah Boiteau, both deceased within two miles or closer to where they went missing, both searched for by lots of people, both found years later as skeletal remains. Then you add devils lake is quite large and there are spots even the sheriffs said were too dangerous to search. A body could be in the lake, wedged between rocks, or not even in the park. So…. No.