WI WI - James Yoblonski, 13, took family's car, found on USH 12, may be in Devil's Lake State Park area, Baraboo, 12 Jun 2023 *reward*

Date of birth: unknown???
I found December 3, 2009 several times.
WISCNEWS/subscriber:
“I just want him home,” William Yoblonski said, adding that his son's birthday is on Dec. 3. James Yoblonski's father offers $10,000.
Doe Network doesn't add DOB unless the person provides the source specifically for the dob. I have this problem all the time. I started putting the source like this: DOB xx-xx-xxxx SOURCE blahblah and then they add it. This must have been family or LE who added him because concerned citizens can only add someone after ten years missing.
 
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No trace of a scent at either campsite, I assume.

Now, if I were a survivalist and I was going to sleep outside, I'd lay down some type of waterproof plastic to put on the ground because in the morning those pillows, blankets and my clothing would be wet from the dew. (was this even done?) And why wouldn't I even have a sleeping bag, a must-have item for camping? I wonder if authorities took all those items that were found, plus a similar amount of other items that the father said James took (but were not at either campsite or in the van), and tried stuffing them into similar-sized duffel bags and a similar-sized backpack to the ones that James took just to see if all those items would even fit into two duffel bags and a backpack? Were the duffel bags found at either campsite or in the van?

I also wonder if that van had a remote start because it appeared it was already running (the lights were on) as James was walking toward it. We also have no way of knowing whether someone else was already in the van.

"For everyone who cares about me, it's not their fault. It's no one's fault. It's my fault.
I'm sorry, people, I can't make it. I'm sorry. I feel like I want to explain it. I don’t know how. I'm scared, and I’m sad, and I have no emotions anymore. I'm like, I’m not processing anything. My brain is – something happened to it."

James had no trouble "processing" by slipping out of the house in the early morning without detection right under the nose of his father and siblings (I have Blink security cameras, any kind of motion an alarm goes off on my cell phone along with a video), drives a van 16 miles to the Dells, goes to his father's business (twice), accesses his father's locked safe and takes a gun (Maybe. His father has no clue exactly when the gun was taken or how James was even able to access the locked safe), drives another 21 miles, sets up two campsites, eludes discovery by numerous searchers and search dogs and then disappears without a trace.

What an elaborate planned out scheme just to commit suicide. Not bad for a 13 year old with "processing" issues. :rolleyes:

A blurry photo of some black garbage bags is their depiction of a campsite?

 
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I just get really bad vibes about this case. I have no idea WHAT happened or who/what was involved, I just...I don't like this story. Heartbreaking, especially as I have a son just about the same age and I can't even imagine going to bed every night thinking he might be in the woods alone, dead or alive.
 
I'm curious about your take, @Quoththeraven

Staged by whom, how so, and to what end?
Staged not by a 13 year old, IMO. The 'whom' remains to be seen. That could be an older peer, a neighbor, a school employee, a family member, etc. (I'd like to know what were the behavioral problems at school mentioned in the press that preceded his disappearance, prob confidental, so we'll never know)

To what end? To midlead investigators and deflect suspicion away from the offender. James, IMO, was coerced by someone using something he did to manipulate him.

AI: "Staging a scene of a crime" means deliberately altering a crime scene to mislead investigators by manipulating evidence, positioning the victim's body, or creating a false narrative about what happened, often done by the perpetrator to try and deflect suspicion away from themselves

I'd be happy to know your take, too.
 
Staged not by a 13 year old, IMO. The 'whom' remains to be seen. That could be an older peer, a neighbor, a school employee, a family member, etc. (I'd like to know what were the behavioral problems at school mentioned in the press that preceded his disappearance, prob confidental, so we'll never know)

To what end? To midlead investigators and deflect suspicion away from the offender. James, IMO, was coerced by someone using something he did to manipulate him.

AI: "Staging a scene of a crime" means deliberately altering a crime scene to mislead investigators by manipulating evidence, positioning the victim's body, or creating a false narrative about what happened, often done by the perpetrator to try and deflect suspicion away from themselves

I'd be happy to know your take, too.
My take is up until this moment I thought James really did this on his own without help. But if no dogs scented him at those sites, someone else had to set them up or it's a weird fluke. It doesn't even have to be any abductor, a friend could have done it.
 
I thought for a while that this was the classic "parent loses it, hurts the kid really badly and pretends he's missing" but there's just too much stuff that would make it unlikely in this case. I don't remember much of the details anymore, but wasn't there footage of James leaving his home/getting in the car by himself? And then, we have the SnapChat video... I do hope he left because he wanted to and he's safe somewhere.
 
I thought for a while that this was the classic "parent loses it, hurts the kid really badly and pretends he's missing" but there's just too much stuff that would make it unlikely in this case. I don't remember much of the details anymore, but wasn't there footage of James leaving his home/getting in the car by himself? And then, we have the SnapChat video... I do hope he left because he wanted to and he's safe somewhere.
Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt James left of his own accord. There's enough footage showing him doing so.

MOO
 
My take is up until this moment I thought James really did this on his own without help. But if no dogs scented him at those sites, someone else had to set them up or it's a weird fluke. It doesn't even have to be any abductor, a friend could have done it.

Search dogs miss or lose people's scents very often, though. It happens in many of these cases. It doesn't prove he wasn't there. It's still possible he was at those sites, even if the dogs don't indicate it. IMO.
 
Search dogs miss or lose people's scents very often, though. It happens in many of these cases. It doesn't prove he wasn't there. It's still possible he was at those sites, even if the dogs don't indicate it. IMO.
I’ve heard that and then also heard how crazy accurate they are. I just checked and I think it’s fair to say there are many variables, and dogs may not have scented him because of them. But it certainly makes me doubt he was there.
 
Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt James left of his own accord. There's enough footage showing him doing so.

MOO
James left home about 1 am, June 12, 2023. His van was tagged by police on Hwy 12 at 8:46 am, about 8 hours later. Out of those 8 hours, there are maybe 5 minutes of video. We don't know that he chose to leave on his own and no one else could be involved just because he left alone and because there's no videotape of anyone else for the other 7 hours and 55 minutes he was missing doesn't mean someone couldn't have joined James off camera in those 7 hours and 55 minutes. Someone could even have gotten in the vehicle shortly after James got out of camera view at his home. The vehicle was also already running as he walked toward it for the first time at 1 am. Maybe remote start. Maybe not. MOO.
 
James left home about 1 am, June 12, 2023. His van was tagged by police on Hwy 12 at 8:46 am, about 8 hours later. Out of those 8 hours, there are maybe 5 minutes of video. We don't know that he chose to leave on his own and no one else could be involved just because he left alone and because there's no videotape of anyone else for the other 7 hours and 55 minutes he was missing doesn't mean someone couldn't have joined James off camera in those 7 hours and 55 minutes. Someone could even have gotten in the vehicle shortly after James got out of camera view at his home. The vehicle was also already running as he walked toward it for the first time at 1 am. Maybe remote start. Maybe not. MOO.
I'm not talking about what might have happened after he left, I'm talking about the specific footage of him leaving alone. Under his own steam, nobody yanking him by the arm or holding a weapon to him or pulling out in a strange car. Whatever happened after, he left alone of his own volition then.

MOO
 
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No trace of a scent at either campsite, I assume.

Now, if I were a survivalist and I was going to sleep outside, I'd lay down some type of waterproof plastic to put on the ground because in the morning those pillows, blankets and my clothing would be wet from the dew. (was this even done?) And why wouldn't I even have a sleeping bag, a must-have item for camping? I wonder if authorities took all those items that were found, plus a similar amount of other items that the father said James took (but were not at either campsite or in the van), and tried stuffing them into similar-sized duffel bags and a similar-sized backpack to the ones that James took just to see if all those items would even fit into two duffel bags and a backpack? Were the duffel bags found at either campsite or in the van?

I also wonder if that van had a remote start because it appeared it was already running (the lights were on) as James was walking toward it. We also have no way of knowing whether someone else was already in the van.



James had no trouble "processing" by slipping out of the house in the early morning without detection right under the nose of his father and siblings (I have Blink security cameras, any kind of motion an alarm goes off on my cell phone along with a video), drives a van 16 miles to the Dells, goes to his father's business (twice), accesses his father's locked safe and takes a gun (Maybe. His father has no clue exactly when the gun was taken or how James was even able to access the locked safe), drives another 21 miles, sets up two campsites, eludes discovery by numerous searchers and search dogs and then disappears without a trace.

What an elaborate planned out scheme just to commit suicide. Not bad for a 13 year old with "processing" issues. :rolleyes:

A blurry photo of some black garbage bags is their depiction of a campsite?

To be fair, on a personal note, when I've gone through more severe bouts of depression I also stop "processing". It's too much to feel and so I shut down emotionally, I'm not processing my EMOTIONS. However, I can still function in every other aspect - school, work, groceries, pay bills, etc

Just my experience
 

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