Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #36

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Talking Mikelle Biggs right now. Boy does this one get to me.
 
  • #802
Kimber Biggs talking about her sister Mikelle's abduction, says cases like Jayme's gives her hope somewhat.
 
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I dunno. I said from the beginning Jayme was the target. Given that she was the only one to leave alive. Was he so obsessed he felt her parents had to die? Not typical but has happened. I'm so happy she was found and thankful he didn't find her after she escaped. I think it would be a very different outcome.
I do not think he would have killed her if he had found her. However, I do think he would have killed Nutters or anyone else who stood in his way. He was seemingly obsessed with Jayme and having her. I think he would have put in the same position he had her in, only tying her up better or whatever he was doing to restrain her.
 
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Showing pics of other missing kids before commercials.
 
  • #807
The manner in which he successfully carried this plot out, is scary beyond words!

At 21, no prior law problems, he lives in another city, yet he is able to shoot his way into the house, kill two adults, kidnapp a 13 year old, and disappear into thin air in 4 to 5 minutes. He left no DNA evidence, just evidence of what he had done.

It appears he did the perfect crime. His failure was leaving Jayme alone while he went out. I am waiting for that story.

Jayme, we are so very proud of you! You have more strength and courage than you ever gave yourself credit for. The world is yours, you can be and do whatever your heart desires. XOXO.
 
  • #808
I have a feeling Patterson has had a history of mental problems and his family was well aware of it. That fits to me. jmo
I don't think they had any idea that it was he who committed these crimes tho. jmo
 
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I do not think he would have killed her if he had found her. However, I do think he would have killed Nutters or anyone else who stood in his way. He was seemingly obsessed with Jayme and having her. I think he would have put in the same position he had her in, only tying her up better or whatever he was doing to restrain her.
You very well may be right. It does seem a very over the top obsession.
 
  • #810
Back to the searches, aunt says she just knew she was out there.
 
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48 Hours

“We needed this one. We needed a miracle.”Sheriff and aunt crying happy tears.
 
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Regarding Jamye being allowed in the casino. families can go into the restaurants. They also have a hotel with small indoor pool. We used to go there when we visited family that live 40 miles away but it has been years ago. I won 6 thousand dollars my first visit there ! It was also my very first time in a casino and I won it with the last 3 quarters of the $20 limit I gave myself. They also used to have the best prime sandwiches in the concession area .

This maybe a stupid question but when LE won't comment on the conditions Jayme was kept in and when the sheriff said he would not release any details that would cause Jayme stress... by not commenting is he basically saying the conditions were horrendous and she was harmed ? If she wasn't harmed or bound etc, why wouldn't he just say so and end any speculation ? Or is the prosecution hoping the JP will plead guilty to murder and kidnapping and anything else will never have to be made public and Jiayme decides if the public ever knows what she endured ?
 
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The sheriff said yesterday they had not even contacted LE about their son. And they were quick to hit the delete button on all SM.

Good for them if they are separating from him because they disapprove of his alleged actions, to put it mildly and not appearing to sever all ties for the purpose of him qualifying for a public defender. I have seen this happen with young adult unemployed facing horrific trials.

I've also seen parents " emancipate" their young adults who are critically ill or injured so the young person can qualify for Medicaid and other government benefits, so I know it happens. Whether right or wrong, I have no clue.
 
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Talking about JC and DC being killed, Jayme's homecoming a miracle. The End. Nothing new.
 
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Does anyone else think that a lot of this has to be tremendously tiring and re-traumatizing for Jayme?

I really hope that the photos and interviews and stuff stop. Leave them alone. Let them hunker down with trained professionals and Jayme and give her a gentle life balance without a bunch of circus to try and heal.

Sorry, it frustrates me to no end that a child goes from a horrific trauma to being traumatized in a new way. And while I know people are well intentioned all of the messages of "She's so strong" or anything that starts with "She will/should..." don't really give her any chance to be weak or find healing in her own way. They put pressure on a child who has been through A LOT.

There should be no expectations at all put on this poor girl or her family at this point. Like. None at all. Support doesn't have to be "You're so strong, you'll heal, you have an awesome family and you'll do great things like Elizabeth Smart and we love you."

Can you imagine what she's been through and seeing "Welcome Home!" plastered everywhere? She. Didn't. Come. Home. And she's aware of that.

Support can be "We're standing with you and will support you in whatever ways you need for however long you need. There's nothing that is right or wrong right now. We are just here for you."
 
  • #816
Talking about JC and DC being killed, Jayme's homecoming a miracle. The End. Nothing new.

Thank you for doing that
 
  • #817
Y’all!! I can’t stop crying. It is so awesome she’s home.
 
  • #818
There wasn't really anything new, aside from some video footage I'd not seen before, but it was a very well put together piece overall.
 
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Two points got my attention in the 48 hours program. First, I was surprised that the investigation assumed that this was about the parents, so that was the focus of the investigation. Second, I did not know that there are 32,000 children under the age of 18 missing.
 
  • #820
Elizabeth Smart had wise words: that the best way to move forward is to let go, and that she cannot return to the life she had. She needs to define and move towards her new normal.
 
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