Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #44

[rootbeer]

on Lifetime April 27
...Smart Justice: The Jayme Closs Case documentary special is set for premiere on April 27. It tells the incredible survival story of 13-year-old Jayme Closs, who was kidnapped from her home in Wisconsin, after watching her mother and father murdered before her eyes. After 88 days in captivity, which began in October 2018, Jayme managed to break free, run for help, and was ultimately rescued. The special is hosted by famed survivor Smart...

Aly Raisman & Leah Remini’s ‘From Darkness To Light’ Among 3 Documentaries Ordered By Lifetime – Upfront

 

[Saribella]

I was a juror on a child molester's trial. Four of the victims testified. The oldest was 17. The youngest was 9. It was heartbreaking to watch them try to hold it together and testify against him, particularly the youngest girl. I am SO glad that Jayme doesn't have to go through that. What she has been through already is horrifying. MOO

I don't think I could sit on a jury just for instances like violence and abuse towards children. I would be too darn biased.

 

[margarita25]

Anyone have knowledge of Wisconsin prisons and where JP might go?

( @Larry Levine )

 

[Mom24]

Good to see he did the right thing by pleading guilty to spare the family further turmoil. Now if he would only do the honorable thing and hang himself.

 

[gitana1]

Have you ever filed a motion to suppress evidence of any kind? The attorney didnt even have a chance to do that because of Patterson ‘s rush to plead. You never know what’s going to happen at a suppression hearing.

Lol. This has nothing to do with a motion to suppress evidence. This was not a suppression hearing.

The defense attorney was not sitting there at that moment begging him not to plead. That did not happen and would not happen.

The defense counsel joined the plea which was arranged in advance. If they didn't agree with it they would refuse to join or sign off on it.

Here's what apparently was going on:

"His voice quivering, Patterson simply uttered the word "guilty" as he was questioned by Judge James Babler. One of the defense lawyers could be heard quietly saying, "Just take your time and breathe.""

Wisconsin Man Pleads Guilty To Abducting Jayme Closs And Killing Her Parents

 

[Falcon500]

Lol. This has nothing to do with a motion to suppress evidence. This was not a suppression hearing.

The defense attorney was not sitting there at that moment begging him not to plead. That did not happen and would not happen.

The defense counsel joined the plea which was arranged in advance. If they didn't agree with it they would refuse to join or sign off on it.

Here's what apparently was going on:

"His voice quivering, Patterson simply uttered the word "guilty" as he was questioned by Judge James Babler. One of the defense lawyers could be heard quietly saying, "Just take your time and breathe.""

Wisconsin Man Pleads Guilty To Abducting Jayme Closs And Killing Her Parents

I asked you if you had ever participated in a suppression hearing. I didn’t say that his court appearance WAS a suppression hearing. No attorney in my county would ever let his client plead guilty at an arrangement.

 

[Deleted member 158085]

I was a juror on a child molester's trial. Four of the victims testified. The oldest was 17. The youngest was 9. It was heartbreaking to watch them try to hold it together and testify against him, particularly the youngest girl. I am SO glad that Jayme doesn't have to go through that. What she has been through already is horrifying. MOO

I tried to point this out to people who were outraged that he got any kind of deal. He’s going away for just as long this way, and Jayme doesn’t have to relive her trauma on the stand.

 

[Rhenish]

Interesting from this article, his parents divorced when he was just about 11 years old in 2008 and Mom moved away, the article does say that brother, sister and dad moved away in "ensuing years" but Dad continued to visit him regularly. I do not at all, not at all, blame parents. But...I do wonder how much he anguished or suffered over his parents divorce and Mom moving away...11 years old is a vulnerable age IMO. I have to wonder how much was overlooked or how much Jake was overlooked, unintentionally, with regard to how he was coping with the divorce and break up of the family and have to question to what degree he was left to his "own devices" because perhaps what ever that answer or reason may be explains Dad's extreme grief over his son's crime. I do not get it (what he did) but I do not feel any sympathy toward Jake and his, probably, life sentence. I just always question how someone so seemingly "somewhat normal" goes from being a "somewhat normal" teen/young adult to a full blown murderer and in such a callous way. I do not know what it is within him but there is truly some underlying issue/want/desire/need that exists that contributed to him acting out such a murderous act. He does need to pay a penance for whatever afflicted him and he will. This is an interesting case to try to "understand" because of the lack of "the full story"....and in agreement that the "full story" should not be published. He is definitely an "odd duck." But why???????

Jake Patterson's neighbor: 'Whatever sentence this young man gets, he deserves'

Jake Patterson's neighbor: 'Whatever sentence this young man gets, he deserves'

GORDON, Wis. - He'd never used his grandfather's shotgun on anything bigger than small game or grouse, but Paul Kasinskas was ready to use it against the young man who lived down the road.

Kasinskas and his wife, Kristin, had answered the frantic knocking on the door of their rural northwest Wisconsin home Jan. 10 to find neighbor Jeanne Nutter comforting kidnapping victim Jayme Closs, who shivered in the winter chill. Jayme identified her abductor, Jake Patterson, who lived nearby.

"You have guns, right?" Kasinskas remembers Nutter yelling, knowing the kidnapper had murdered Jayme's parents and fearing he would kill again to get the 13-year-old back. Kasinskas ran and got the shotgun from a safe. Then he grabbed some shells.................more at link.

 

[PommyMommy]

Jake Patterson’s behavior baffling, even to criminal behavior expert – Twin Cities
[...]

Jake Patterson’s crimes are hard to wrap one’s mind around.

Even for an expert in deviant criminal behavior.

“To go from a few areas of rejection … to this extreme is very rare,” said Robert Geffner. “Which is why this particular situation doesn’t match most of the others we read about or hear about.”

[...]

In a telephone interview in the days following Patterson’s arrest, Geffner said what was known about him didn’t fit the patterns that emerge in criminal deviance.

“First, you don’t have any contact that anybody knows of ahead of time … which is very unusual,” Geffner said. “You have a complete stranger who evidently decides for some unknown reason to attack and then goes to very extreme (measures) … to essentially eliminate any contacts for her. Her family is basically destroyed in front of her.”

Geffner made it clear that he wasn’t conducting a long-distance psychological evaluation. But the behavior was so atypical, Geffner said, it would be difficult for anyone to understand.

What’s known of Patterson’s past also doesn’t fit any patterns, Geffner said.

[...]

 

[PommyMommy]

Former U.S. Attorney explains next steps in Patterson case
[...]

Former U.S. Attorney Tom Heffelfinger called it a “textbook guilty plea."

He said it was clear both the defense and prosecution were trying to spare Jayme further pain.

“You can't just walk in off the street and plead guilty to a crime," Heffelfinger said. "You have to be able to satisfy the judge that there is a good legal basis, factual basis, for your plea.

"In this case, that would’ve required Patterson, in the usual way, to talk about what he had done.”

Instead, the judge asked Patterson to confirm the criminal complaint is an accurate account of what happened.

According to Heffelfinger, it was also unusual that defense attorneys gave a long statement about everything they did to make sure Patterson knew the implications of pleading guilty.

“I think that was important because this was an early plea, and it was important that the public know Patterson got competent legal counsel,” he said.

Heffelfinger wasn’t surprised by the guilty plea.

“Not in light of how strong the case is, and how egregious it is, and how everybody wanted to avoid a jury trial," he said. "They didn't want to put Jayme on the stand."

[...]

 

[PommyMommy]

After guilty plea, Barron senses closure for Jayme Closs and family
For the past five months, this small western Wisconsin community has endured a level of trauma for which there is no blueprint.

Exactly 163 days ago, the people of Barron, Wisc., woke up to the news that 13-year-old Jayme Closs had disappeared and that her parents had been killed. The ensuing weeks felt like a blur: They grieved. They searched. They prayed. They celebrated Jayme's return. And then they waited anxiously, hoping the man arrested for kidnapping and intentional homicide would not force Jayme's family to sit through the horrors of a trial.

On Wednesday, many longtime residents of Barron felt an overwhelming sense of relief as they watched Jake Patterson plead guilty to three felonies at the Barron County Justice Center. Patterson told the judge he understood the likely implications: Life in prison.

[...]

With Patterson's sentencing scheduled for May 24, the criminal case will still loom over Barron for a few more months.

But perhaps the most difficult part of the legal process is now complete.

"It's time," CV said, "to put it all behind us."

[...]

BB, a close friend of Jayme's uncle through the construction business, said he's planning a May 4 fundraiser at Barron High School to assist Jayme's family with ongoing costs. The fundraiser will help her aunt and uncle as they upgrade their home to accommodate Jayme, and the money may also supplement the costs of Jayme's counseling.

[...]

CV said she plans to follow the words of Elizabeth Smart — by letting Jayme be the guide.

"Because none of us lived through her shoes," Verhulst said. "Hopefully, she comes out on top."

(Names changed to initials by me)

 

[PommyMommy]

Elizabeth Smart ‘Grateful’ Jayme Closs Won’t Have To Deal With A Trial
Kidnapping survivor Elizabeth Smart says she’s “grateful” that Jayme Closs won’t have to go through the ordeal of a trial after the man accused of abducting her and killing her parents pleaded guilty in court.

Smart, who was kidnapped when she was 14 and held in captivity for nine months, issued a statement Thursday about how not having to go through a trial will help put the focus on healing for Jayme.

“I am grateful that she and her family will be able to avoid the challenges and distractions surrounding the legal process, and can dedicate their time and attention to continuing to heal,” Smart said.

(continued at the link)

 

[margarita25]

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[Seattle1]

Jake Patterson’s behavior baffling, even to criminal behavior expert – Twin Cities
[...]

Jake Patterson’s crimes are hard to wrap one’s mind around.

Even for an expert in deviant criminal behavior.

“To go from a few areas of rejection … to this extreme is very rare,” said Robert Geffner. “Which is why this particular situation doesn’t match most of the others we read about or hear about.”

[...]

In a telephone interview in the days following Patterson’s arrest, Geffner said what was known about him didn’t fit the patterns that emerge in criminal deviance.

“First, you don’t have any contact that anybody knows of ahead of time … which is very unusual,” Geffner said. “You have a complete stranger who evidently decides for some unknown reason to attack and then goes to very extreme (measures) … to essentially eliminate any contacts for her. Her family is basically destroyed in front of her.”

Geffner made it clear that he wasn’t conducting a long-distance psychological evaluation. But the behavior was so atypical, Geffner said, it would be difficult for anyone to understand.

What’s known of Patterson’s past also doesn’t fit any patterns, Geffner said.

[...]

I'm not surprised to read that the experts in criminal deviant behavior also do not see JP fitting any patterns.

From the beginning, nothing about JP's behavior could be explained.

I do believe we will one day learn that JP is a seriously deranged individual. I mean a new level.

I also don't think JP's head shape is normal.

Sadly, I don't believe living in a cage will be punishment for him. Don't think he will survive longterm either. MOO

 

[Rhenish]

I'm not surprised to read that the experts in criminal deviant behavior also do not see JP fitting any patterns.

From the beginning, nothing about JP's behavior could be explained. I believe we will one day learn that JP is a seriously deranged individual. I also don't think JP's head shape is normal.

Sadly, I don't believe living in a cage will be punishment for him. Don't think he will survive longterm either. MOO

I do have to agree because I too, for whatever reason, do not believe he will survive long-term. What perplexes me is that he does not fit any "criminal deviant behavior type pattern" because I do agree he does not. He is a tough one to try to understand but I do believe that is because of the lack of all detail that may shed light to what occurred from the time he took her captive until she escaped. I think those unknown details would certainly shed some light as to motivation and his mind set and answer many questions. In the meantime...am expecting and hoping for a life sentence for him because I just think he would go on to commit similar offenses and I truly believe that at some point Jayme would have had to be "done away with". I do see him as a heartless and callous killer. I do believe he would have killed Jayme and moved onto another victim when she no longer met his needs. But who knows?? Thankfully he was caught and in the meantime I can speculate all I want knowing he is now "captive" and no one else will face Jayme's situation.

 

[Seattle1]

Wisconsin Man Pleads Guilty To Abducting Jayme Closs And Killing Her Parents

Patterson was set on pleading guilty, defense attorney Richard Jones said, according to Wisconsin Public Radio. Even after conversations about changing the trial's venue and trying to suppress earlier confessions to investigators, Patterson was firm.

"He's been consistent with that from the time that we've met," Jones said.

In a letter to a Minneapolis television station, Patterson said he planned to plead guilty. He said he was trying to spare Jayme and her relatives. "Don't want them to worry about a trial," he wrote.

The letter also featured "I'm sorry Jayme!" in bubble letters.

Patterson will be sentenced in May. He faces the possibility of life in prison.

Prosecutors dropped an armed burglary charge. Authorities said criminal charges stemming from Jayme's time in captivity would not be filed, meaning information about her confinement could remain private.

 

[Seattle1]

'No guilt, no remorse, no empathy.' Criminal profilers say Jake Patterson case stands out

James and Denise Closs were victims of Patterson’s fantasy to take and keep Jayme, McCrary said.

“When guys do this sort of thing, anybody who gets between them and their target is in peril,” he said. “That’s his desire, and he is willing to kill. This is someone with no guilt, no remorse, no empathy. He killed these people with the empathy of lighting a cigarette.”

Patterson had no criminal record before his arrest, but McCrary said that’s not the unusual part about this crime or the man accused of committing it.

“Almost always those guys don’t have a criminal history. And it’s one big explosive event. This could be somewhat similar to that,” he said.

“(Multiple killers) are not that common, but this guy is even more uncommon — with his willingness to callously and unremorsefully (commit murder and kidnapping.) It’s pretty striking, going in with a shotgun and blasting away.”

 

[Ellmau]

Makes me think (my opinion only) - pleading guilty was also to avoid him being known as a pedophile in prison (in addition to the other factors).

Are sex offenders not segregated in the US, then? (They are where I live.) If they are, then not being formally classified as one, when most of his new 'friends' will assume he was is surely the worst case scenario for him?

 

[mtnlites]

Are sex offenders not segregated in the US, then? (They are where I live.) If they are, then not being formally classified as one, when most of his new 'friends' will assume he was is surely the worst case scenario for him?

No, they are not segregated here, though some of them have to face certain restrictions as to where they're allowed to live, ie. not allowed so many feet within a school or park. Offenders have to register and in many places you can find maps of the neighborhoods where they live so it's fairly public info. To be honest, I'm glad that we don't segregate them. There are LOTS of things that can get you on that list and, IMO, some of those things do not begin to compare with others.

 

[ilovechili]

I absolutely believe this creep is a very dangerous predator. He deserves every day he gets until dies in prison.

He whimpered, and boo hooed for himself only. Imo He hated his notoriety had finally come to an end, but cowardly worried what would be shown in a trial showing him capable of the most heinous violent acts imaginable.

He wasn't stupid, he knew he would be convicted, and he knew it would have shown everyone what a truly evil man he is. He knew his own family would have to see his horrific acts, that would fully expose him for the monster he is.. It would have shown everyone how truly diabolical, and evil he is.

Now him being in the limelight is over. He will wither away never accomplishing anything positive in his worthless life.

No more bravado about how well he carried out his diabolical plot.

No more making a traumatized child feel uncomfortable by his sicko I love yous, trying to imply Jamie enjoyed being kidnapped against her will.

He knows his disgusting secrets remain hidden because the DA had the decency to not divulge what this monster made Jayme endure for 88 agonizing days, after knowing HE was the very one who had brutally murdered her loving parents in cold blood.

The only regret I have is this state did not have the death penalty, for he truly deserved nothing less.

Imo

On one hand I wish they had the death penalty, on the other many of the states that do have tons of money and time spent defending appeals and the inmate never gets executed anyhow. If Wisconsin did have the death penalty he would probably be a sure bet, however, this was a deal and he would not have likely gone for anything that did not take the death penalty off the table. He then might as well risk trial and then Jayme would have that upcoming yet. The Douglas County charges could still then be an issue...

All things considered, this was a great result.

That is just my opinion though. I do agree with you on the death penalty, it at the very least can be a bargaining chip, and the states that actually still carry it out, most certainly so, and perhaps makes just a few possible perps think twice before going ahead with their plans.