AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #10

[JRW]

I've been trying to find a thread that I can post on... This thing is blowing up fast!!... I just had a few comments based on comments I have been reading... The last two houses I have lived in neither had locking bathroom doors. My current house has 2 bathrooms and neither have a lock. Also I read a comment about screen doors.... 9 out of 10 times our screen door is never locked. I have just recently started locking it in addition to the regular outside door. Also living in a wooded area, we hear gun shots on a regular basis and never think anything of it. Its not something that would make us look out the windows to see what is going on. Normally its like "oh theres a gun shot." Then go on about our business. I know these aren't specifics about the case, but they are circumstances that can be normal in someones life. No locked screen door, No bathroom locks, neighbors disreguarding a gunshot.... just adding a different perspective.

 

[Juno]

My thoughts on this search is that it could create the need for a perp to "move" due to the location and sheer size of the search group and radius, or they ask for 2000 of the 3000 residents of the town, to see who shows up or more importantly who does not.

 

[BB71]

Although I would think (hope) LE would have already investigated this, did you call this in?

 

[Ari_]

I disagree. I cannot imagine organizing such a huge search just to walk around and see what they find. I think something triggered this search and they have a real expectation of finding something.

I agree and you are the first person to feel the same that I have spoken to. It seems targeted and not just because they might find a phone or something.

 

[Jethro4WS]

I have been following the threads and felt to jump in for the first time just to give some working knowledge of Northern/central Wisconsin town life that doesn’t seem to have been covered that I can see. I am sorry this is a book.

UW- Barron County: this is not a college town nor a large school. It is a satellite school in the UW system. Generally student population is low - 500 or less, mostly a commuting school. Traditionally the satellite schools allow for an associates to be earned and/or allow for college bound students to get their core classes completed toward a BA/BS and live/commute from home and then transfer into any of the UW schools (UWMadison, UWSP, UWEC etc) to complete their programs. Usually most satellite campuses in the state do not have dorms associated with them.

As for UWEX - this is generally the offices that contain the County 4-H program, county Agriculture services etc. These are programs that fall under the University of Wisconsin services/umbrella offered to each and every Wisconsin county community. UWEX stands for University of Wisconsin Extension, this is not a college or university with students, usually only an office with staff of 10-12.

Small town, rural Wisconsin: I live in one a few south of Barron County. It’s not uncommon for most of the town emergency teams, less police/sheriff departments to be all volunteer (fire, EMS etc). In my community when there is a fire call the 911 call triggers the tornado sirens to go off but the tone is different - an up/down tone vs a tornado siren of a constant tone. - so not only do the teams get paged/notified but the sirens are a secondary method of notification within the community. This may prompt those who look to chase the sirens.

Not everyone has a scanner - a lot of us have a scanner app on our devices we can turn to. My county is one that has live feeds, but not all Wisconsin counties do.

As for rural gunshots: it is not gun deer season yet, that opens Saturday 11/17 . In general if you hear gunshot during any gun season (deer, black bear, goose, duck etc) it’s usually more common at first or last light to the day that these animals cross hunters paths. And if your anywhere near a rod/gun club range (normally right outside a town center), in daylight hours it’s not uncommon to hear shots as people sight their guns or target shoot. In the middle of the night is rare, but refer to the WI DNR website for what is acceptable for hunting or firing a gun at night in rural areas - not normally a common occurrence in my area.

Small towns in general in this area - people turn out for help when there is a need. No doubt about - we love our neighbors but good when there is need for help. We had our own situation and the city/people became protective of us which is not uncommon we have found. We had worked w our local LE after, they did extra swing-bys of our property daily and we found out a week later they had put a camera on our house to monitor. Sure we got the looky-loos for a few days but that got cut short with the LE frequency - no more gawking. Also - most small towns in this area you can go from a cluster of housing and a downtown area and be completely rural in a matter of minutes. Most small Wisconsin towns have a post office, bank, hair salon, a few churches, bars, mom and pop restaurant (or subway) a Kwik Trip and maybe a Dollar General. If I recall, most shopping stores like Walmart are in Rice Lake. And in this area there has been a revival of train traffic due to the frac sand industry hauling and mining in nearby areas.

As for religion class: If Jayme was a parish member with Mom at St. Peter’s, it’s not uncommon in rural Wisconsin that she would attend CCD classes on a Wednesday night. If her Parish or Parish cluster offered classes, this is usually a common day in the Diocese. Sometimes Parishes offer them on Sundays after Mass, but generally in rural Wisconsin, Wednesday nights are church nights so no school /club activities or sporting events are held past 5pm on this day to accommodate for this no matter the faith.

In regards to sex offenders: Barron happens to be the county seat. I am not too knowledgeable on this topic, but from what I understand and see in my own county - usually the halfway housing after jail release is located in our county seats, close proximity to county jail/courthouse and parole officers. So to me it does not seem unusual to see a larger number of sex offenders in the town of Barron, I don’t think in general the town has that many - think all county wide offenders all in one spot until their after sentencing changes with time/good behavior and movement into the general community population or their home towns occur.

I am sorry if this has been discussed in old threads - I kept seeing things pop up and thought I’d give a bit more information/clarification on those things we have in our state.

This was great. Thanks for sharing it! Welcome to WS.

 

[pinkfly]

Only caught half the presser so was anxious to get home late last night and get on here to catch up. Thread was closed and I couldn't get like button to work so I just read. Thank you all for answering all my questions in your great discussions. Was feeling very down about the situation but now watching the live search effort I am touched. Thank you @rainynights for finding that live feed. And @SharonNeedles does your avatar change a little each day? It was especially creeping me out in the wee hours catching up...

And today my like button is working.

So hoping that this search produces something. Can you imagine the jubilation if something leads to a live Jayme.

 

[zecats]

I cannot imagine organizing such a huge search unless they are truly at a loss as to where she could be...

I see it the other way around. They have a potential and maybe significant lead and need extra manpower to cover the square footage in a shorter period of time. Hopeful, I am.

 

[Cardinal47]

Per the sheriff in an interview on the HLN Ashley Banfield show Crime and Justice last night tips received led to this search today!

 

[cheko1]

Did the Closs's normally shoot guns all night long?

I am at a total loss here........ the neighbors heard a gun shot. Ok if the cops had not been called & the bodies found. Those neighbors would never of known where the gun shot came from. In the country, at night, gun shots echo.

 

[BlinkOfAnI]

Is trapping still legal in WI? If so when is the season? So many woods there.

 

[JRW]

I never hear people hunting at night.

People spotlight deer in the country illegally all the time

 

[thesnowflakesparkles]

G'day! Can I please have this link? I had a look through the threads but I could't find it.

Here you go:
SORT :: home

The vehicle button is the blue one in the upper left on the offender's page.

 

[_Jane_Doe_]

Here you go:
SORT :: home

The vehicle button is the blue one in the upper left on the offender's page.

Wonderful! You're the best, thanks heaps

 

[HayLouise]

Paul Blume‏Verified account @PaulBlume_FOX9
Volunteers will do a grid search in their assigned location. Strangers walking set distance apart thru fields or woods looking for evidence. They are allowed into *open* out buildings with law enforcement. Can't be a locked structure. Lunch at 1:30. #FindJayme #FindJaymeCloss

Paul Blume on Twitter

 

[whatsherface]

I agree and you are the first person to feel the same that I have spoken to. It seems targeted and not just because they might find a phone or something.

I thought when they said at the presser they wouldn’t comment about her phone. It may have pinged in that area.. so that’s what they are looking for.

 

[ElementalLaura]

I disagree. I cannot imagine organizing such a huge search just to walk around and see what they find. I think something triggered this search and they have a real expectation of finding something.

I agree. LE is actively working this case, and time is of the essence.

I wonder whether the time elapsed in collecting video (and, perhaps, in analyzing it) in Mollie’s case informed the decision process here in terms of calling in all necessary resources, including the community, as soon as a need is identified. I also applaud the sheriff’s office in giving clear direction to locals to check their property and call in anything that might help them find Jayme.

 

[Suglo]

FYI

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[cakegirl0905]

Amazing. I live in Denver, but drove down to Dallas for the weekend. I saw billboards for Jayme on the outskirts of Dallas. Happy to see that even so far away there is an effort to spread awareness.

 

[Slapjack]

This is my first post. Is it possible that they seen some type of ATV tracks leading away from the house or something that has them focused on this area .

 

[Ibiz]

People spotlight deer in the country illegally all the time

Out on back roads sure, but probably not so much on a main highway in front of people's house.