AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #11

[carbuff]

Okay, so you're not going to take away the gun, but are you going to go straight to your daughter and protect her?

My point was that the most useful thing I could do would be to try to get help ASAP. Going to her wouldn't protect her. Calling 911 might save us both.

 

[rainynights]

Paul Blume (who has been on point in tweeting about this case, IMO), is live on KFAN sports radio.

Here’s the link (via iHeartRadio): Listen to KFAN Live - The Twin Cities Sports Leader | iHeartRadio

Paul Blume on Twitter
Talking #jaymecloss case. Tune in now.

Justin Gaard on Twitter
Our guy @PaulBlume_FOX9 joins from Barron next. http://KFAN.com #FindJaymeCloss

 

[CuriousMaine]

Nothing new. Press conference at 4 PM Central time today with several media sources are hearing family member(s) might make an "emotional plea".

Here's a link: WATCH LIVE: News conference scheduled in Barron Co. after day of searching in Closs case

 

[Mistermagoo]

Cops Investigating Drug Link In Jayme Closs' Disappearance

Is Radaronline really a credible source? Just wondering. People have had this theory on here all week and pretty much debunked it I thought.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Wow, that is a lot of traffic. Do they have a breakdown of those numbers during the time that the incident occurred?

Not that I have seen. The way they record the information counters they set up along the roads from time to time usually for a whole week or so. The DOT likely have time-stamped information that law enforcement could access so that they could understand what "typical" traffic amount is on a late sunday/early monday morning.

I don't believe that traffic counters are active on an ongoing basis there. But you never know as more and more roads in this country are getting "smarter". You see more and more traffic counting systems that are live - which is how we end up with the traffic maps on Google and other services that show how busy or backed up a road is.

 

[Cardinal47]

I’m late today. Is there anything new? I totally had a dream she was just about to be found. The police knew where she was and was heading there now. Crossing fingers

From your lips to God's ears!

 

[Quill]

I still think its a good thing and don't see why every state doesn't do it. Every little bit helps. Many cold cases have been solved with DNA. You never know if any perp has been involved in a previous crime, in fact it is often the case. Better to widen the gap by collecting from those with misdemeanors rather than limit it to those accused of felonies. It is used to solve current crimes as well, and you never know what DNA they may recover. Jmo

Its the expense mostly. I have closely followed this in my state and have even signed a petition to get our governor to look into it. It is a totally different software to run it in from what is already in wide use first off, and then you have the crime lab that is already backlogged with overworked and underpaid workers. Add in the controversial nature and there you have it. Its complicated.

I also want to point out that familial DNA searches in this sense are different from the techniques used to solve several recent cold cases. In some of the recent cases I believe they used DNA detectives who searched genealogy sites where people had submitted their own DNA for the purposes of finding and linking up with family members.

 

[Gardener1850]

Am I the only WSer who feels the suspect is young ? Early 20's maybe ? I just am NOT seeing a pervy old man doing this...it's too bold, to wreckless, too agressive as opposed to just creepy.

I dunno. Random thoughts. My head is pounding at this point.

I keep going back and forth in my head as to what age I think he is but I lean towards older. I think late 20's, early 30's, maybe 40's. I think he has previous victims but none that he took in this manner (double homicide of parents). I think perhaps he escalated to this after he got away with previous acts. He may have done some time as a juvenile and perhaps those records are sealed.

I can't stop thinking of Todd Kohlhepp as a model for this type of escalating behavior. TK raped a girl at gunpoint when he was 15 and he went to prison for it. After TK got out he moved to a different state (AZ to SC) and lived quietly under the radar as a real estate agent. TK spree-killed 4 people (Superbike murders) out of anger because they laughed at him. He got away with that crime for over a decade until he was caught with KB chained up in his improvised shipping container. TK had an arsenal of illegal guns (he wasn't supposed to be able to legally buy a gun) and had somehow been able to avoid registering as a sex-offender in SC. His record was public but he told the real estate board his juvenile offense where he was charge as an adult was because he had sex with an under aged girlfriend and they believe him and let him get his license. We may be dealing with someone like this who has convinced others in his life that he reformed or that his first offenses were "misunderstandings" (notice LE in this case used that very intuitive word to appeal to the perp).

TK was 46 by the time he had escalated to couple victims-- brazenly shooting men and taking women hostage. I think the perp in this case is likely to have been so brazen because he has not been caught for other offenses or only served some time as a juvenile. Perhaps he took a girl previously who had parents to make pleas for her and he didn't want to see that again. Possibly he always fantasized about eliminating the parents before abducting a girl. Or murdering the parents was the only way he saw to get to Jayme. IDK. We could find out it is a teen or much older adult but mid 30's plus or minus 10 years is where I'm thinking right now.

*All MOO and subject to change as we get new info.

Amazing that this guy or guys are smarter than LE and the FBI.

He/they are not. Just wait.
MOO.

 

[MassGuy]

Cops Investigating Drug Link In Jayme Closs' Disappearance

Is Radaronline really a credible source? Just wondering. People have had this theory on here all week and pretty much debunked it I thought.

On a good day, Radar is questionable.

Yesterday it was sex offenders, today it is Meth.

LE is looking at all angles and possibilities. They are just trying to get clicks with many of these articles.

 

[HarvestMoon]

Cops Investigating Drug Link In Jayme Closs' Disappearance

Is Radaronline really a credible source? Just wondering. People have had this theory on here all week and pretty much debunked it I thought.

They are are most likely looking into all of the avenues they can. This article doesn't sound like it has much to share. IMO

 

[MassGuy]

Duplicate

 

[JohnTate90210]

No, that's a different house. Here's the rear of the Closs house:

 

[Bugurl747]

Paul Blume (who has been on point in tweeting about this case, IMO), is live on KFAN sports radio.

Here’s the link (via iHeartRadio): Listen to KFAN Live - The Twin Cities Sports Leader | iHeartRadio

Paul Blume on Twitter
Talking #jaymecloss case. Tune in now.

Justin Gaard on Twitter
Our guy @PaulBlume_FOX9 joins from Barron next. http://KFAN.com #FindJaymeCloss

Great interview link! Thanks for sharing.

 

[bizzle2]

Yes. It’s great that states are beginning to pass laws that allow for DNA collection from those merely accused of a felony.

I think that public safety is more important than privacy concerns in this regard.

Let's not go down that road on this thread. I'm sure there are many with strong opinions.

 

[rainynights]

Kent Erdahl on Twitter

About 15 minutes away from an update on the investigation into the disappearance of 13yr old Jayme Closs. @kare11 will carry it live online and on tv at 4pm.

 

[PommyMommy]

4 pm press conference:

WEAU: Livestream 2
WXOW: WATCH: 4 p.m. update on Jayme Closs search
CBS3 DULUTH: WATCH LIVE 4 p.m.: Press Conference in Barron County – Latest on Closs case
FOX9 FACEBOOK: Fox 9

ETA: WEAU has video and sound up now.

 

[Cardinal47]

I just can't see a skinny meth head teen or early 20's doing all of this. It had to be somebody really strong to take on three people and a dog and get away without anybody seeing them and leaving no clues.
Kind of like Superman!

 

[Cardinal47]

WATCH LIVE: News conference scheduled in Barron Co. after day of searching in Closs case This is the one I'm watching and the sound is really good.

 

[rainynights]

Paul Blume on Twitter

5 minute warning on #JaymeCloss news conference. Sheriff will lead this briefing. Closs family members are here including Denise Closs sisters. Jayme's aunts. No questions for family. But they will give statement. #FindJaymeCloss

 

[SuziQ]

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