AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #13

[crhedBngr]

#JaymeCloss: How to talk to your children about difficult news involving kids.

How to talk to your kids about Jayme Closs

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Excellent link. Thanks for sharing this!

 

[sleuther0192837465]

I thought it was established that he was lying on his back, with his feet pointing to the front door?

Can you give me a link? I’ve only read that (as per the police call log) JC was down inside the front door, not how his body was positioned. TIA

 

[Ari_]

@Gardener1850 and @katydid23 quoted me in the previous thread about what the captor may do "for" Jayme and yes, I agree that captors often do get things for their captives. Things that will make them feel that they are doing a favor for them, something to make them look like the good guy, something that makes them have to rely on them. However, my post was referring to the captor returning to steal the dog to give to Jayme. I certainly don't think they would go to that length and risk being caught just to try to please Jayme. They will much more likely do that, as you both said, with food or other things that can be easily bought.

 

[raja]

Something like getting her a Starbucks....

 

[AbbeyBabbey]

It's fine to develop a theoretical floor plan, but it must be based on what is known of the actual floor plan of the house, based on descriptions and photos. Sleuthing similar homes and posting them here is not allowed. We don't want to drag any innocent neighbors into this.

Make sure to designate on your drawing or rendering that it is theoretical based on what you can determine without having the actual home's floor plan.

Thank you!
My theoretical sketch will have nothing to do with similar homes. I will rely on photos, maps, aerials, known facts and, of course, my expertise.

Still looking for anyone who may have all photos, videos, aerial views saved in a single file. I sent a lot of time going through posts in the media thread and know that it does not contain all of what I have seen. Thanks in advance!!!

 

[gngr~snap]

Just saw the billboard for Jayme in Marietta GA!! (just north of Atlanta)

Moo

 

[Jacquie1]

Hi all,
I have been a little lax in following the jayme threads here since about thread 8. (It’s a full time job, which I already have one)
Just curious, I watched the press conference with Jayme’s aunt talking yesterday, am I the only one who thought the aunt was attempting to coax a reluctant Jayme home? JMO

IMO I don’t think jayme did the deed but knows who did and is with that person, possibly willingly. -am I allowed to say that now?-

 

[TCIntriguedIN30]

Can you give me a link? I’ve only read that (as per the police call log) JC was down inside the front door, not how his body was positioned. TIA

I would like to see this as well, Facing down or up can change a whole bunch of theories.

 

[MassGuy]

Hi all,
I have been a little lax in following the jayme threads here since about thread 8. (It’s a full time job, which I already have one)
Just curious, I watched the press conference with Jayme’s aunt talking yesterday, am I the only one who thought the aunt was attempting to coax a reluctant Jayme home? JMO

IMO I don’t think jayme did the deed but knows who did and is with that person, possibly willingly. -am I allowed to say that now?-

We’ve had differing opinions on this.

My take was that they were trying to humanize Jayme in the eyes of her captor, and at the same time, trying to give Jayme hope.

I absolutely don’t believe that she is with this guy willingly.

 

[Ari_]

Something like getting her a Starbucks....

That sounds more like it, raja.

 

[HayLouise]

Just spoke to local farmer who lives near Closs family home. He & wife got random phone call the other night from out of area #. Caller asked to speak to "Jayme." They were concerned. Reported it to authorities. May not be anything. But shows folks on alert here #findjaymecloss

Paul Blume on Twitter

 

[cheko1]

We’ve had differing opinions on this.

My take was that they were trying to humanize Jayme in the eyes of her captor, and at the same time, trying to give Jayme hope.

I absolutely don’t believe that she is with this guy willingly.

I agree with you 100%

 

[daisy6441]

If they took her and that was their main motivation then killing the parents might mean that the parents would have known exactly who she was with and could have sent the police after them immediately. Have they spoken to her friends from school?

 

[MassGuy]

If they took her and that was their main motivation then killing the parents might mean that the parents would have known exactly who she was with and could have sent the police after them immediately. Have they spoken to her friends from school?

They have. When the Sheriff was interviewed on AB the other night, she put forth dozens of questions about what they were doing.

The Sheriff, and the agencies involved, were doing everything that you could probably think of.

They started at that school.

 

[cluciano63]

We don’t know that Jayme is with anyone or indeed alive. I don’t think LE does either.

I do not believe that 2000 people were gathered to search for possible bits and pieces of clothing...
Jmo

 

[HayLouise]

Also worth noting. Investigators remain active today in the fields & woods near the Closs family home. We spotted several on the move. And that farmer reported FBI eyeballing one of his cornfields this morning. #FindJayme

Paul Blume on Twitter

 

[MassGuy]

We don’t know that Jayme is with anyone or indeed alive. I don’t think LE does either.

Exactly. It all comes down to motive, and what his intent was with her.

Was she a product of the plan, or the focus of it? And if she was the intent, what was her purpose?

The answer to this may have a direct implication on if she is still alive or not.

 

[Ari_]

Just spoke to local farmer who lives near Closs family home. He & wife got random phone call the other night from out of area #. Caller asked to speak to "Jayme." They were concerned. Reported it to authorities. May not be anything. But shows folks on alert here #findjaymecloss

Paul Blume on Twitter

Oh what low lifes. I am assuming a hoax anyway.

 

[MassGuy]

We don’t know that Jayme is with anyone or indeed alive. I don’t think LE does either.

I do not believe that 2000 people were gathered to search for possible bits and pieces of clothing...
Jmo

I do. But searching for a body would have been part of that.

When a crime like this is committed, perpetrators frequently dump items. These items include phones, clothing, and murder weapons.

 

[LietKynes]

Hi all,
I have been a little lax in following the jayme threads here since about thread 8. (It’s a full time job, which I already have one)
Just curious, I watched the press conference with Jayme’s aunt talking yesterday, am I the only one who thought the aunt was attempting to coax a reluctant Jayme home? JMO

IMO I don’t think jayme did the deed but knows who did and is with that person, possibly willingly. -am I allowed to say that now?-

SABBM

Hmmm.... Anything is possible.
Afaik ; LE haven't used the words "abducted" or "kidnapped".

One possible theory that I've mentioned before and am bringing to this thread (everything on this case is galloping so swiftly !) ; is that possibly a misguided, delusional and obviously dangerous perp surprised the parents or lay in wait for them... and killed them in a fit of panic or rage. ... and dragged a shocked Jayme with him ?
Am going with a theory that a man or men did this--- although females can be just as vicious.

Either Jayme is fearful and in total shock; or a perp has brainwashed her into some sort of Stockholm Syndrome. There's no way to know how she'd be feeling even if she appeared to be willing and compliant-- as her life as she knew it is shattered , she's a young teen, and even some adults never recover from this kind of trauma .