AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #15

[Caylee Advocate]

<modsnip - reaction to removed post>. Praying for Jayme's safety and justice for DC and JC.

 

[Jabarn]

Hold up a second...were 2 mattresses taken out ? A blue one and a pink floral one ?

ETA: Oops, meant to reply to the poster you were quoting. Sorry...long day.

It sure looks like that in the picture posted earlier today. That is odd, like the chair with the loose ends of ties was.

It makes me think the crime was more involved than we can understand.

 

[WiseOwl]

See the confusing part for me is the cops getting there in 4 minutes. Basically they would of had to drag jayme out of the house and leave the car running all in 4 minutes. That is where things dont add up for me and makes me think the person was already there and maybe jayme was already in the running car

I think when the perp discovered the call to 911 had been made then they had to get out of there pretty quickly, that's why they maybe panicked they took Jayme without thinking. Also this could point to the perp being a local as maybe they knew the cops would be there within a matter of minutes.

 

[tmar]

Yes, the entire post I originally made from the DOJ website on violence against juveniles states this as well:
"Approximately 40% of these children ( abducted by stranger or slight acquaintance) are murdered or never recovered."

What this means, then, is encouraging. 60% ARE recovered alive, if I'm interpreting their statement correctly.

Thank you, Tmar, for helping me see the statistics in a more positive light. The thought of losing hope for Jayme being alive just makes me sick!
You are a beautiful soul. Thanks again.

We just needed to think, as the statistics were right there.
That info is very encouraging.

Thanks Jana.
Your personal story was very touching: the love we have for our dear friends.
After your experience, and with many here, posting on Websleuths, I feel, aids us in trying to help the souls, affected by crime.

 

[BeeGirl]

Sounds like we’re definitely down the rabbit hole now.

 

[sun16]

Reposting the odds that Jayme is alive today, from my earlier post:

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  • 46.8% of abducted children who were murdered were found dead in less than an hour .

• 76.2% of abducted children who were murdered were found dead within the first 4 hours.

• 88.5% of abducted children who were murdered were found dead within the first 24 hours.

• 97.9% of abducted children who were murdered were found dead within 7 days."

Do you recall what is the source of these stats/percentages?

 

[tmar]

Miss Bonnie is singing for her supper and getting more vocal by the minute. So, I guess I best get that old dog fed before she decides to raid the refrigerator. See all you Sleuthers later!

Our pets are certainly so lucky, to be loved by us, as yours certainly is.
My sweetie, is sitting next to me, on a 'one seater', while I am typing, looking at me with those sad eyes meaning "When are you going to take me for a walk"?

In the Closs family, especially with Jayme, her Molly is deeply loved too.

 

[BB71]

Not yet at least

Unless she was catfished. My privacy settings are strong, yet I have been contacted by imposters more than 10 times. If she was new to the internet, she surely has been too. But the timing seems to be a strange choice. Dad’s shift typically ends at 1pm in other departments. But he got off at 12 or 12:30. Maybe her “friend” was coming for a visit, and nothing went as planned?

How did the Sheriff get the entire town to refrain from talking to the media? Not a peep. Not a whisper. Does it help the case? If so, how??

 

[Mercedes]

I think when the perp discovered the call to 911 had been made then they had to get out of there pretty quickly, that's why they maybe panicked they took Jayme without thinking. Also this could point to the perp being a local as maybe they knew the cops would be there within a matter of minutes.

Good point! (And a new one.)

 

[jkloc420]

I think when the perp discovered the call to 911 had been made then they had to get out of there pretty quickly, that's why they maybe panicked they took Jayme without thinking. Also this could point to the perp being a local as maybe they knew the cops would be there within a matter of minutes.

Yea some things i thought about to

 

[BB71]

Did they pull the mattress out of the house

Yes. Twin mattress. No sheet, which may have been bagged?

 

[Sachi]

They are ‘salt of the earth’ people. But we’re bory parents born and raised there?
Could they have been given identities through a witness protection program, when they were young and newly married? And then had Jayme, the whole time keeping their cover identities?
Because they say El Chapo can order kidnappings and murders of witnesses while he is in prison.
Maybe if they on somebodys’ list? They would have had to be actively looking for them.

I believe James was from the area and lived most of his life around there and was a stand out high school athlete and not relocated as part of the witness protection program.

 

[BB71]

Oh sorry.

Afterward? You cannot lock a door once it’s been kicked in.

 

[kkdj]

Do we know that the perp was aware the 911 call had been made?
We're making it make sense with that assumption.

 

[JerseyWasHome2]

There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that this family was engaged in any illicit activity.

By all accounts, they were “salt of the earth” type people.

They are victims, and accusing them of any transgressions in order to formulate a theory, is wrong in every conceivable way.

@MassGuy, I agree on paper but honestly, we are only privy to what we've been told, right? If they were engaged in any such behavior, secretly, quietly, we just haven't been made aware. Not saying at all that is the case - so far seems to us on the very outside they were a good, hard working family. Just not sure how can you say for 100% certain there is no evidence...

 

[macabremom]

In Colorado, where I have lived for the last 35 years it is called the "Make my Day Law" and yes I am serious - Google it.

AMAZING name for a law

 

[Sachi]

Do we know that the perp was aware the 911 call had been made?
We're making it make sense with that assumption.

Right, we are making an assumption, very good point so, the perps exit may have had nothing to do with the 911 call.

 

[Seattle1]

Unless she was catfished. My privacy settings are strong, yet I have been contacted by imposters more than 10 times. If she was new to the internet, she surely has been too. But the timing seems to be a strange choice. Dad’s shift typically ends at 1pm in other departments. But he got off at 12 or 12:30. Maybe her “friend” was coming for a visit, and nothing went as planned?

How did the Sheriff get the entire town to refrain from talking to the media? Not a peep. Not a whisper. Does it help the case? If so, how??

We saw this in the Brooklyn, Iowa/Tibbetts case. Small town respect. Everybody knows one another, and keeps you in check. Good chance the Sheriff was your classmate, and if LE asks you to keep quiet, that's what you do. MOO

 

[MsBetsy]

They are ‘salt of the earth’ people. But we’re bory parents born and raised there?
Could they have been given identities through a witness protection program, when they were young and newly married? And then had Jayme, the whole time keeping their cover identities?
Because they say El Chapo can order kidnappings and murders of witnesses while he is in prison.
Maybe if they on somebodys’ list? They would have had to be actively looking for them.

That sounds about as far fetched as the story about the farmer and the sheep in the Tibbetts case.

 

[jkloc420]

Unless she was catfished. My privacy settings are strong, yet I have been contacted by imposters more than 10 times. If she was new to the internet, she surely has been too. But the timing seems to be a strange choice. Dad’s shift typically ends at 1pm in other departments. But he got off at 12 or 12:30. Maybe her “friend” was coming for a visit, and nothing went as planned?

How did the Sheriff get the entire town to refrain from talking to the media? Not a peep. Not a whisper. Does it help the case? If so, how??

I think a dodge orange charger would stick out like a sore thumb in a small town though