AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #17

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  • #501
I’ll tell you how this case is going to be resolved. One day, it might be this week, next week, or five years from now someone will make a call to the police and say that the information weighed heavily on their conscious and will give up the crucial information. When an arrest is made the defendants name won’t even be in the case file.

I can’t tell you how many cases I’ve had like that where months or even years of work turned out to be for naught.
 
  • #502
Sorry if this isn't allowed but I need to book mark my spot.
 
  • #503
Personally I will always take what Fitzgerald said over any magazine publication any day.

I dont rely on what is even written or reported by MSM anymore.

Nowadays they seem to be wrong on the facts far more than being right.

Imo
ITA. Especially considering "People" isn't a news magazine, it is an entertainment magazine that lands in waiting rooms and often pays its sources. That's how rumors get started and I don't consider it any more reliable than cable click bait.

The more local news media covering the Closs case and Jayme's disappearance, such as the Mpls "Star Tribune" are far more reliable because local reporters care about getting the facts right. They also build a relationship with LE. JMO
 
  • #504
I’ll tell you how this case is going to be resolved. One day, it might be this week, next week, or five years from now someone will make a call to the police and say that the information weighed heavily on their conscious and will give up the crucial information. When an arrest is made the defendants name won’t even be in the case file.

I can’t tell you how many cases I’ve had like that where months or even years of work turned out to be for naught.

I try not to judge folks, but how could anyone sit on info where every minute could mean life or death for someone? I would have to speak up. I couldn't sleep or look at myself in the mirror.
 
  • #505
I recall a while back a man that was friends with a woman murdered her, her friend and her son so that he could take her teenage daughter. The two were found many states away (CA I think) in front of a store where someone noticed the girl looking uncomfortable. I'll try to find the case. Anyway, I wonder if something like this happened here.
 
  • #506
Maybe their thought was to use her for ransom and then that plan went South.
Been mulling that around my mind a bit too. Could be how they know she's alive.
 
  • #507
I recall a while back a man that was friends with a woman murdered her, her friend and her son so that he could take her teenage daughter. The two were found many states away (CA I think) in front of a store where someone noticed the girl looking uncomfortable. I'll try to find the case. Anyway, I wonder if something like this happened here.
Hannah Anderson?
 
  • #508
"In Touch" magazine has an article. Joan Smrekar talked to them. Still says 12:31 on the shots. She asked her husband if they were gunshots and he said "Yes - it's a big gun, too." She says police told her the 911 call had "a lot of yelling" but the only thing they could make out was "help."

An FBI source told the magazine the James was killed by shots when he answered the door. It had been kicked in. The quote from the FBI source is "The mother appeared to have barricaded herself in the bathroom and called police, leaving the line open but not speaking to the dispatcher directly." Same source says she died of gunshots. He/she also says Jayme "was targetted" and the intention was to take her.

It says some family members think Jayme might have met someone online.

The possibility of someone met online is a definite possibility in my mind too. It wouldn't have to be a long chat for someone to get all the information they need to pull off an abduction. It wouldn't even have to be a "romantic" thing either. A simple friendly chat is all it would need to take. I don't remember if Jayme's phone had been found. But even that might not yield enough information depending on the chat.
 
  • #509
"In Touch" magazine has an article. Joan Smrekar talked to them. Still says 12:31 on the shots. She asked her husband if they were gunshots and he said "Yes - it's a big gun, too." She says police told her the 911 call had "a lot of yelling" but the only thing they could make out was "help."

An FBI source told the magazine the James was killed by shots when he answered the door. It had been kicked in. The quote from the FBI source is "The mother appeared to have barricaded herself in the bathroom and called police, leaving the line open but not speaking to the dispatcher directly." Same source says she died of gunshots. He/she also says Jayme "was targetted" and the intention was to take her.

It says some family members think Jayme might have met someone online.
In Touch Magazine is owned by the same company that owns Radar Online (as well as the National Enquirer). So, it is just a rehashed version of the previous Radar Online story.
 
  • #510
"In Touch" magazine has an article. Joan Smrekar talked to them. Still says 12:31 on the shots. She asked her husband if they were gunshots and he said "Yes - it's a big gun, too." She says police told her the 911 call had "a lot of yelling" but the only thing they could make out was "help."

An FBI source told the magazine the James was killed by shots when he answered the door. It had been kicked in. The quote from the FBI source is "The mother appeared to have barricaded herself in the bathroom and called police, leaving the line open but not speaking to the dispatcher directly." Same source says she died of gunshots. He/she also says Jayme "was targetted" and the intention was to take her.

It says some family members think Jayme might have met someone online.
Why would an FBI source talk to a mag and not mainstream media? Even if this true that FBI source needs needs to be disciplined, or canned. They could be jeopardizing the whole case.
 
  • #511
"In Touch" magazine has an article. Joan Smrekar talked to them. Still says 12:31 on the shots. She asked her husband if they were gunshots and he said "Yes - it's a big gun, too." She says police told her the 911 call had "a lot of yelling" but the only thing they could make out was "help."

An FBI source told the magazine the James was killed by shots when he answered the door. It had been kicked in. The quote from the FBI source is "The mother appeared to have barricaded herself in the bathroom and called police, leaving the line open but not speaking to the dispatcher directly." Same source says she died of gunshots. He/she also says Jayme "was targetted" and the intention was to take her.

It says some family members think Jayme might have met someone online.

So the FBI hold back details of the crime from the local community, the general public and MSM and instead decide to tell this magazine! What utter and total BS!!
 
  • #512
Been mulling that around my mind a bit too. Could be how they know she's alive.
I don't think LE knows she is alive, if that's who you were referring to. They are hoping, but so far they do not have any promising leads that we have heard about. They are most likely fearing the same thing we are, that the chances of her being found alive are very low at this point. Jmo
 
  • #513
I don't think LE knows she is alive, if that's who you were referring to. They are hoping, but so far they do not have any promising leads that we have heard about. They are most likely fearing the same thing we are, that the chances of her being found alive are very low at this point. Jmo
I hope not.
 
  • #514
I try not to judge folks, but how could anyone sit on info where every minute could mean life or death for someone? I would have to speak up. I couldn't sleep or look at myself in the mirror.
I agree with you. Something I could see holding one back is if it could inadvertently harm ones family/children. You would think that one could anonymously report something but depending on what they saw or what they know--could lead directly back to them, IMO.
 
  • #515
In Touch Magazine is owned by the same company that owns Radar Online (as well as the National Enquirer). So, it is just a rehashed version of the previous Radar Online story.
I know I've said this before but someone gave me a bunch of In Touch magazines once, and every single caption on every article was misleading, as well as the information contained in it. Very poor writing and false information, imo.
 
  • #516
In Touch Magazine is owned by the same company that owns Radar Online (as well as the National Enquirer). So, it is just a rehashed version of the previous Radar Online story.
So the FBI hold back details of the crime from the local community, the general public and MSM and instead decide to tell this magazine! What utter and total BS!!

Yeah, I'm not buying that either. Seems to me they said they had an FBI source in the Mollie Tibbets case, too.
 
  • #517
Hannah Anderson?
No but that's another one. I think this was a single mother who had taken her children on a trip to New York, she was a baker or something. She and her children had recently moved also. Maybe the grandma or aunt lived upstairs from them?
 
  • #518
I hope not.
We all do. At this point I think it would take a miracle, but unfortunately killers do not keep their victims alive for very long. Jmo
 
  • #519
I try not to judge folks, but how could anyone sit on info where every minute could mean life or death for someone? I would have to speak up. I couldn't sleep or look at myself in the mirror.

If you really really don't want something to be true your mind can be really really good and convincing you the signs you are seeing are nothing and you should ignore them.
 
  • #520
I do think the police had something substantial to be so confident that she was still alive, just because their wording was so different to other cases. I posted this previously but they've obviously had access to all of her social medias and would have seen any interactions, so I wonder if their confidence could come from this, or possibly the crime scene/911 call.

Crossing fingers that with the smaller number of tips coming in that they release something else to the public that calls in more tips, however judging from the last press conference they seem to be very careful with what they are saying so not to disrupt the perp/perps so unsure if this is something they would do?
 
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