AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered*

[HayLouise]

Paul Blume‏Verified account @PaulBlume_FOX9

DEVELOPING: Barron Co sheriff just told me he is skeptical about the alleged #JaymeCloss spotting in Miami. Following it up as tip but doubts timing (20+ hours drive time away). Expecting more info at 11am news briefing.

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[rainynights]

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Thanks for posting this - I've added some screenshots from the above video (timestamps shown at the bottom of the screenshots).

 

[perfectingpink]

They might be able to trace the weapon back once they analyze the bullets. Might be able to look up who owns that type of weapon in that area.

Because of the loud noise, my first thought was a shotgun. Because I am too lazy to research this morning, does anyone know if shotgun ammo can be traced back to the shotgun used? I suppose the firing pin mark could?

 

[cybervampira]

Video at link.

13-year-old missing and 'endangered' girl abducted from home where parents found dead

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I dont think this has anything to do with her dad being a hunter or owning guns.

Imo this was not about a robbery.

This is all about someone who wanted Jayme badly enough they were more than willing to murder her two innocent parents because they felt the parents were the obstacles standing in their way. IMO

 

[DakotaMayi]

Is Jayme their biological daughter?

 

[jkloc420]

Because of the loud noise, my first thought was a shotgun. Because I am too lazy to research this morning, does anyone know if shotgun ammo can be traced back to the shotgun used? I suppose the firing pin mark could?

A shotgun sounds like something a 18-25 male who is love would use because it is the only thing available.

 

[Gardener1850]

Just speculating of course but if the suspect shot both victims at close range with firearm pressed against both of their temples with one shot for each it would kill them both.

Yes, of course. If the perp was in control of the situation at the time of the gunshots, two was all he needed. Two things make me think he had lost control of the victims, however:
1. Dad was found in the doorway of the house and mom was found in another room inside
2. The neighbors described the 2nd gunshot as much louder than the 1st (compared it to a car backfiring).
This made me think there was a scenario where one gunshot was inside the house and the other was from outside. Perhaps both parents tried to stop the perp-- with mom shot first then dad shot in doorway as they fled. There may be other explanations-- maybe dad got free after they left and crawled to the door, maybe the neighbors only perceived the 2nd shot as louder because the first one woke them up and second one they were fully awake, checking the time, etc... And there's lots we still don't know. We shall hear the autopsies soon enough though.
JMO.

 

[chihuahua]

Video at link.

13-year-old missing and 'endangered' girl abducted from home where parents found dead

Yes and according to your link the girl was with two middle eastern males. Perhaps that is what caught the tipster's attention.
I don't think it's Jayme.
Chi

 

[Saribella]

Don't know where you would read that since a search of Wisconsin State Court Cases shows that both of her parents were divorced from previous spouses years (at least 4 years) before Jayme was born.

I only see the one for the father, which was way before Jayme's birth. Unless I'm looking wrong.

Where is the one for her mother, may I ask?

 

[OhThatVictoria]

I dont think this has anything to do with her dad being a hunter or owning guns.

Imo this was not about a robbery.

This is all about someone who wanted Jayne badly enough they were more than willing to murder her two innocent parents because they felt the parents were the obstacles standing in their way. IMO

In a rational world, I would agree with you but meth makes people insane. The article posted provides a particularly heinous example of a Mother who allowed her children to be sexually assaulted and even injected meth in them to make them compliant. Ugly. The victim may have had a gun safe (also very common in WI) and they might have wanted the combination. Who knows? We have to consider all angles so we don’t just go down one trail. The Police would know if there was a gun safe, haven’t seen footage of one being removed. (They are very heavy!)

 

[Jethro4WS]

I only see the one for the father, which was way before Jayme's birth. Unless I'm looking wrong.

Where is the one for her mother, may I ask?

Look under the name Denise Hause - that is her prior married name. Her maiden name is Denise Naiberg,

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Because of the loud noise, my first thought was a shotgun. Because I am too lazy to research this morning, does anyone know if shotgun ammo can be traced back to the shotgun used? I suppose the firing pin mark could?

If they left the shell casings behind but took the weapon with them if weapon is found they certainly can trace those spent casings back to the weapon used.

They must locate weapon first but the shell casing alone can tell them the guage used if it was a shotgun.

I think it may have been a high caliber handgun.

 

[JohnTate90210]

Don't know where you would read that since a search of Wisconsin State Court Cases shows that both of her parents were divorced from previous spouses years (at least 4 years) before Jayme was born.

Oops! Sorry! I just looked back and had read the date wrong!

 

[Gardener1850]

Is Jayme their biological daughter?

She looks just like her mom IMO. All indications are that they were married long before Jayme was born. Her dad had a prior divorce in 1998. House was bought in 2001. Jayme born in 2005. I think she is theirs biologically. JMO.

 

[chihuahua]

Shotgun shells left on a scene can be traced to a specific gun, but it is very difficult to do.
Depends on the age of the shotgun and how many imperfections it may have in it's "rifling" to leave any traceable marks on a casing.
It's not often the choice of the "casual" criminal. Too heavy, too noticeable, too loud.
This is a brazen case for sure.
jmo Chi

 

[Saribella]

Look under the name Denise Hause - that is her prior married name. Her maiden name is Denise Naiberg,

Definitely can confirm that one. Definitely prior to Jayme's birth as well (2000) as her father's in 1998.

 

[DakotaMayi]

She looks just like her mom IMO. All indications are that they were married long before Jayme was born. Her dad had a prior divorce in 1998. House was bought in 2001. Jayme born in 2005. I think she is theirs biologically. JMO.

Thanks Gardener! I only asked as I wondered if there were rogue biological parents coming back for Jayme. Thought ruled out

 

[cody22]

Because of the loud noise, my first thought was a shotgun. Because I am too lazy to research this morning, does anyone know if shotgun ammo can be traced back to the shotgun used? I suppose the firing pin mark could?

Firing pin and extractor marks can be identified as to a particular shotgun...if they have the cases.

 

[HayLouise]

Dave Peterlinz‏ @DPet_KARE11News

'We’re hearing from those who know Jayme Closs well. Patty Gerber of St. Joseph’s Church says “hearts have dropped” in the Western Wisconsin community since the news of Jayme’s disappearance broke. @KARE11'



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