Found Alive WI - Ryan Borgwardt, 45, Green Lake, 11 Aug 2024 *evidence that he faked his death and is alive in Eastern Europe*

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There are so many questions about the overseas piece of this case, with good reason. I find myself also wondering how he got away from the lake and got to Canada. Did he buy a cheap used car and have it staged, and drive it to Canada? Did someone pick him up - some kind of accomplice? I'm intrigued.
 
  • #123
he replaced the hard drive and cleared the browser and they still found his trail :D
If you clear your computers history or change the hard drive, the searches that were conducted and websites visited can still be sourced by LE through search warrants served on companies such as Google.
 
  • #124
I was finding odd that he bought gift cards, and FBI’ s podcast on romance scams mentions gift cards as one way to get a victim’s money. IMO this could well be a romance scam.

Wikipedia also mentions that
Victims may be invited to travel to the scammer's country; in some cases the victims arrive with asked-for gift money for family members or bribes for corrupt officials, only to be beaten and robbed or murdered.
 
  • #125
I'm finding it hard to believe a grown man, husband and father of three, is going to get conned by a romance scam. Something else is going on.
 
  • #126
I'm finding it hard to believe a grown man, husband and father of three, is going to get conned by a romance scam. Something else is going on.
I don't. Have a look online at his work history and qualifications; he comes across as someone a bit ''all over the place'' who has tried stuff (he has worked in four different industries) never really succeeding at anything, slightly immature for his age, and lacking focus. Hundreds (if not thousands) of men get into romantic/sexual relationships online on a daily basis and many end up being romance scams. We just don't hear about those because the vast majority of them are not so numpty as to try to fake their death, so they do not make the TV news.
 
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Borgwardt last texted his wife on the night of Aug. 11, saying he was turning his kayak around and heading to shore soon, Podoll said.

So he had the 12th until 13th to reach Canada, possibly Ontario, which makes sense in terms of distance/time. Or he was already travelling north when texting on the 11th evening.
I really wonder how too.
Rented car? Paid someone to bring him there? Bought another car which had been oarked there waiting for this ?
Has he taken a flight in Montreal ? To where? I cannot possibly believe he went to Uzbekistan
 
  • #128
Maybe he was having an affair with an Uzbekistan woman in Wisconsin, but then she got deported back to her country.
 
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If you clear your computers history or change the hard drive, the searches that were conducted and websites visited can still be sourced by LE through search warrants served on companies such as Google.
But can LE get warrants? In the absence of a crime or risk of harm, he's an adult who chose to go missing. Adults can do that, as cruel as it might be.

Just how many resources can they allot to an adult whose gone on safari?
 
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Borgwardt last texted his wife on the night of Aug. 11, saying he was turning his kayak around and heading to shore soon, Podoll said.

So he had the 12th until 13th to reach Canada, possibly Ontario, which makes sense in terms of distance/time. Or he was already travelling north when texting on the 11th evening.
I really wonder how too.
Rented car? Paid someone to bring him there? Bought another car which had been oarked there waiting for this ?
Has he taken a flight in Montreal ? To where? I cannot possibly believe he went to Uzbekistan
There are nine airlines (according to Google) that fly from Canada to Uzbekistan, with Toronto having the most popular, direct route to Tashkent. No wonder he took money with him, the flight ticket just one way is quite expensive!
 
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I don't. Have a look online at his work history and qualifications; he comes across as someone a bit ''all over the place'' who has tried stuff (he has worked in four different industries) never really succeeding at anything, slightly immature for his age, and lacking focus. Hundreds (if not thousands) of men get into romantic/sexual relationships online on a daily basis and many end up being romance scams. We just don't hear about those because the vast majority of them are not so numpty as to try to fake their death, so they do not make the TV news.
It happens across demographics. Lonely hearts club.

I do worry that, wherever he's gotten to, things are not as he thought they'd be, and he could be in danger, beyond anything he could have expected or prayed for.

So.... he could be an adult who doesn't want to be found or he's a foreigner with or without a passport/ID and means... if something happened to him now, how would anyone even know?

If he was dissatisfied with his work/history, his life, he wouldn't be the first person to be swindled by the allure of romance of wealth...

JMO
 
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I don't. Have a look online at his work history and qualifications; he comes across as someone a bit ''all over the place'' who has tried stuff (he has worked in four different industries) never really succeeding at anything, slightly immature for his age, and lacking focus. Hundreds (if not thousands) of men get into romantic/sexual relationships online on a daily basis and many end up being romance scams. We just don't hear about those because the vast majority of them are not so numpty as to try to fake their death, so they do not make the TV news.
This can happen to anyone…it happened for instance to a famous Italian volleyball player, who fell in love with a fake person online and got scammed for….15 years ! Lost more than 1/2 million…
 
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It happens across demographics. Lonely hearts club.

I do worry that, wherever he's gotten to, things are not as he thought they'd be, and he could be in danger, beyond anything he could have expected or prayed for.

So.... he could be an adult who doesn't want to be found or he's a foreigner with or without a passport/ID and means... if something happened to him now, how would anyone even know?

If he was dissatisfied with his work/history, his life, he wouldn't be the first person to be swindled by the allure of romance of wealth...

JMO
I totally agree. He might not think so but he is in a very vulnerable position and in a country (if he is still based in Uzbekistan) where Amnesty International always states on their annual reports human rights as such do not really exist and unfair trials are the norm. He cannot make himself known to Uzbek authorities and after what he has done, he will be scared of making himself known to US authorities, so who can he trust?
 
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I cannot link it here as we re not 100% sure it is his, but google the name and you will find it
There is an oral surgeon from Waterloo, Iowa with the same name/spelling - whouda thunk it?- so I can't be sure it's the same dude. This one is from Wisconsin?
 
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I'm finding it hard to believe a grown man, husband and father of three, is going to get conned by a romance scam. Something else is going on.

Huh. I'm the exact opposite, I am finding it very very easy to believe. Plus he isn't exactly a Rhodes Scholar, he seems quite daft, dare I say even dumb. He wiped his hard drive it gets recovered, he thinks by getting a duplicate passport he can go undetected, did he assume they wouldn't know it was him?
 
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Borgwardt last texted his wife on the night of Aug. 11, saying he was turning his kayak around and heading to shore soon, Podoll said.

So he had the 12th until 13th to reach Canada, possibly Ontario, which makes sense in terms of distance/time. Or he was already travelling north when texting on the 11th evening.
I really wonder how too.
Rented car? Paid someone to bring him there? Bought another car which had been oarked there waiting for this ?
Has he taken a flight in Montreal ? To where? I cannot possibly believe he went to Uzbekistan
He would not have flown out of Montreal. Toronto or Winnipeg are the closest Canadian cities. But they are each 11-12 hour drives from Green Lake WI.

He could have rented a car but would need some way to get to that car. Or, he could have used his own vehicle. I haven't read all the articles about this case but none of the ones I've read say that his car was found - just his kayak, life jacket, tackle box, etc.
 
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There is an oral surgeon from Waterloo, Iowa with the same name/spelling - whouda thunk it?- so I can't be sure it's the same dude. This one is from Wisconsin?
Nope, google Zoominfo. His entire work history is online (janitor in a school, woodwork, computing stuff, etc)
 
  • #138
I haven't read all the articles about this case but none of the ones I've read say that his car was found - just his kayak, life jacket, tackle box, etc.
Yes, his car was found. From the timeline (snipped for focus)
M Aug 12: REPORTED MISSING
- car found in parking lot [21] of Dodge Memorial Park in Markesan [25] w trailer [28]


SOURCES
[21] 5 Nov 2024 - Bring Me the News - https://bringmethenews.com/wisconsin-news/wisconsin-father-still-missing-after-august-kayak-trip
[25] 9 Nov 2024 - WJFW - Wisconsin kayaker faked his disappearance, authorities say after months of searching for him
[28] 12 Nov 2024 - USA Today - Wisconsin authorities believe kayaker staged his disappearance and fled to Europe
 
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He would not have flown out of Montreal. Toronto or Winnipeg are the closest Canadian cities. But they are each 11-12 hour drives from Green Lake WI.

He could have rented a car but would need some way to get to that car. Or, he could have used his own vehicle. I haven't read all the articles about this case but none of the ones I've read say that his car was found - just his kayak, life jacket, tackle box, etc.
They mention they found his vehicle parked where he went missing
 
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So no clue where he actually was when he called on the 11th? Could have already been en route to CA- and quite the head start to flee

Passport at home might have been reported stolen and he obtained a new one using photographs of the original? Have they said for sure he obtained a new passport? If so when was it issued and from where?

So sorry for his family- moo
 

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