Found Alive WI - Ryan Borgwardt, 45, Green Lake, 11 Aug 2024 *evidence that he faked his death and is alive in Eastern Europe*

<modsnip> Lately fraudsters manage to clone phone numbers of known banks and police stations, and 2 different people call victims, telling them their funds are not secure anymore on their BA, that they need to transfer the money to a new BA.
After the fake police call, the victim receives a call from the fake bank officer. The victim recognizes the phone number or they search on internet and get reassurance that the number that called is the bank. They agree to trnsfer to their new BA, which is actually not theirs. When they realize the fraud, the criminals are long gone with the money.
This is called an Impostor Scam.

More worrying now are those using AI and targeting especially vulnerable/ elderly people, such as the so called Grandparent scams.

“If you get a call from someone who sounds like a grandchild or relative asking you to wire or transfer money or send gift cards to help them out of trouble, it could be a scam. Artificial intelligence has made it easier for scammers to clone voices and alter images to make it seem like someone you know needs help. Meant to play on your emotions, this scam is among those commonly used to target older adults, especially during the holidays.”
Source What are some common types of scams? | Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
Some scammers tried this one on my 80 year old father around the holidays last year. He got a call from someone claiming to be my nephew, saying he’d been arrested for something he didn’t do, that he needed help posting bail, and that he’d given a lawyer his phone number. “The lawyer” then called my dad a few minutes later to explain how to transfer the money to “my nephew” to post bail. Thankfully, my dad asked for his phone number and said he needed to speak with my brother (my nephew’s dad) first. They just hung up when he said that.
 
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Keith Cormican, director of Bruce’s Legacy, told CNN he spent nearly 30 days working on the case. The first two weeks of the search alone will cost him about $10,000 due to damaged equipment and other expenses, he said.

“We had our share of problems out there being in such a difficult lake,” Cormican told CNN Tuesday.

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Ryan's children just found out the day before the news conference that their Dad was believed to be alive and on the run.
 
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The way the police are wording their public statements to Ryan makes me believe they think he got catfished or scammed too. The Sheriff used phrases such as "We can sort this out" and asked him to just contact law enforcement to make sure he's OK. Perhaps his family - as hurt and as angry as I'm sure they are and have every right to be - believed that he was scammed and perhaps there are concerns for his safety or they think he will be too embarrassed to contact someone.

As noted above, he seems like a very simple man who could easily be duped. I refuse to believe at this time there's actually an Uzbeki woman that wanted him to come over there to start a new life.
 
NOV 14, 2024
FOX 11 followed up with Chief Deputy Matt Vande Kolk on Thursday to ask whether there was any new information or whether they were taking a new look at the video.

"We are not looking into it," he said.

Keith Cormican, director of Bruce’s Legacy, told CNN he spent nearly 30 days working on the case. The first two weeks of the search alone will cost him about $10,000 due to damaged equipment and other expenses, he said.

“We had our share of problems out there being in such a difficult lake,” Cormican told CNN Tuesday.

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Ryan's children just found out the day before the news conference that their Dad was believed to be alive and on the run.
That has to be so incredibly difficult for those kids to process :(

moo
 
The way the police are wording their public statements to Ryan makes me believe they think he got catfished or scammed too. The Sheriff used phrases such as "We can sort this out" and asked him to just contact law enforcement to make sure he's OK. Perhaps his family - as hurt and as angry as I'm sure they are and have every right to be - believed that he was scammed and perhaps there are concerns for his safety or they think he will be too embarrassed to contact someone.

As noted above, he seems like a very simple man who could easily be duped. I refuse to believe at this time there's actually an Uzbeki woman that wanted him to come over there to start a new life.
I have to agree that the wording seems to imply that he was prey to some sort of entanglement or scam … vs a legit affair and this is how he handled the situation-

I wonder about his ability to plan and pull off the disappearance without coaching or a specific plan provided by someone else… moo
 
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I would have thought there'd be answers by now.

Doubtful he knew how much trouble or danger he was putting himself into...

Real target for violence too having staged a death here, nobody would be looking for him there -- and whatever brought him to Uzbekistan, whoever, knew that too. Drain whatever money he parked there, destroy his duplicate passport, suddenly Romeo is a prisoner and no one knows he's been taken. He could have met with death for real this time.

It's possible there's a real woman, and he's living his best life right now but the chances of that? Exceedingly small. Fair chance he never made it TO Uzbekistan. No telling what country he's in or whether he's any kind of safe. Or alive.

Really hope LE can locate him soon.

JMO
 
NOV 15, 2024
Green Lake County Sheriff Mark Podoll was on CNN Friday morning. He called on Borgwardt to reach out.

"Things can be worked out. People forgive," Podoll said. "I'm sure he's probably, thinking that, you know, it's tough to try to come back and restart his life again. But there's people that love him, family loves him and we just want to, we just want to bring him back."
 
I would have thought there'd be answers by now.

Doubtful he knew how much trouble or danger he was putting himself into...

Real target for violence too having staged a death here, nobody would be looking for him there -- and whatever brought him to Uzbekistan, whoever, knew that too. Drain whatever money he parked there, destroy his duplicate passport, suddenly Romeo is a prisoner and no one knows he's been taken. He could have met with death for real this time.

It's possible there's a real woman, and he's living his best life right now but the chances of that? Exceedingly small. Fair chance he never made it TO Uzbekistan. No telling what country he's in or whether he's any kind of safe. Or alive.

Really hope LE can locate him soon.

JMO
It seems to me they have to know where he is through his passport use. Maybe not exact location but I imagine he flew to the closest airport …..to his final destination. I imagine if this was a scam and he’s still alive, shame will keep him from returning. I just hope we find out what happened……I’m kind of nosey like that lol.
 
Yes, I was on the fence about this being a romance scheme vs a man just looking to escape. this guy however doesn't seem incredibly bright with his choices so far.
Definitely believe someone convinced him to fake his own death.
The only one who stood to benefit from his death would be the beneficiary of his life insurance policy--if he had been declared dead.

Did he and the beneficiary plan this together and plan to link-up later?

I can't see any real benefit from running off overseas to be with another woman.

Maybe he just wanted a completely new life and took off. People have done that before. If he wanted to disappear, was he under a legal obligation to notify LE not to search for him?

All JMOO
 
Assuming the life insurance policy will be voided or at least not paid out given the circumstances so at this point, does LE even continue to search for him? It seems like a lot of time and resources for a guy who went to lengths to vanish. Maybe they are confirming that he actually ran away vs. was scammed and might be in real danger?

Although the comments from the Sheriff about “people forgive” and please contact someone makes me think they believe this was completely voluntary and at least in his mind he was going to run into the arms of another woman and live in Europe.

But really if that can be confirmed, what else is there to search for or do?
 
Assuming the life insurance policy will be voided or at least not paid out given the circumstances so at this point, does LE even continue to search for him? It seems like a lot of time and resources for a guy who went to lengths to vanish. Maybe they are confirming that he actually ran away vs. was scammed and might be in real danger?

Although the comments from the Sheriff about “people forgive” and please contact someone makes me think they believe this was completely voluntary and at least in his mind he was going to run into the arms of another woman and live in Europe.

But really if that can be confirmed, what else is there to search for or do?
Good points. They're sure acting as if they think he vanished voluntarily, and if so, I can't see a legitimate reason to continue searching for him. He walked away from his life -- which is why I can't figure out why the Sheriff is talking about people forgiving.

On the other hand, if he was scammed or is in danger, I can see continuing to try to locate him.
 
Good points. They're sure acting as if they think he vanished voluntarily, and if so, I can't see a legitimate reason to continue searching for him. He walked away from his life -- which is why I can't figure out why the Sheriff is talking about people forgiving.

On the other hand, if he was scammed or is in danger, I can see continuing to try to locate him.
Things change from country to country and year to year but I remember back in 2017 watching a documentary when I was teaching in Albania stating the four passports people stole the most there were those from citizens of the USA, UK, Germany & Spain (they actively looked for passports of those four places, organised bands for their theft) and soon after the embassy of one of my two countries issued a warning about travel to Georgia (the ex Soviet republic) after two of my fellow citizens (in different parts of the country, unconnected cases) suffered an express kidnapping for their passport. Since then, one of the two countries I have a passport for has the duty to have us registered at all times wherever we go (huge fine if we fail to register as soon as we arrive to live in another country!!)... we cannot just ''disappear''; if we want to, there is a government phone line we must phone to notify authorities of that. Could the USA be the same case and they are legally bound to search for him until he gives ''proof of life''? His passport is a coveted treasure in many, many countries.
 
Assuming the life insurance policy will be voided or at least not paid out given the circumstances so at this point, does LE even continue to search for him? It seems like a lot of time and resources for a guy who went to lengths to vanish. Maybe they are confirming that he actually ran away vs. was scammed and might be in real danger?

Although the comments from the Sheriff about “people forgive” and please contact someone makes me think they believe this was completely voluntary and at least in his mind he was going to run into the arms of another woman and live in Europe.

But really if that can be confirmed, what else is there to search for or do?
If someone outside the USA is scamming or obtaining funding under suspicious circumstances, it is worthwhile to keep investigating. LE might not be interested in Ryan as much as discovering if there is a bigger ring outside the US targeting US citizens and their money.

jmo
 
Things change from country to country and year to year but I remember back in 2017 watching a documentary when I was teaching in Albania stating the four passports people stole the most there were those from citizens of the USA, UK, Germany & Spain (they actively looked for passports of those four places, organised bands for their theft) and soon after the embassy of one of my two countries issued a warning about travel to Georgia (the ex Soviet republic) after two of my fellow citizens (in different parts of the country, unconnected cases) suffered an express kidnapping for their passport. Since then, one of the two countries I have a passport for has the duty to have us registered at all times wherever we go (huge fine if we fail to register as soon as we arrive to live in another country!!)... we cannot just ''disappear''; if we want to, there is a government phone line we must phone to notify authorities of that. Could the USA be the same case and they are legally bound to search for him until he gives ''proof of life''? His passport is a coveted treasure in many, many countries.
In the USA, I think (MOO) that it is legal to walk away from one's life without notifying LE, but I don't think it's okay to walk away from one's dependent children or from owed debts.

However, it isn't legal to enter or live in this country if you're not documented--such as an undocumented immigrant.

But, I think an American citizen can voluntarily leave their home/life without telling anyone.

If he conspired to defraud the life insurance company, that would be illegal.

I could see continuing to track him if they think he's being scammed by someone else or in danger, but not if he left of his own free will.

I wish we could hear what the wife thinks -- because if there were another woman, you'd think she'd have at least some suspicions. Or, you'd think she would have noticed if he seemed distant or despondent.

Such an odd story.
 

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