Will the Long Island Serial Killer ever be caught?

[Orville Butch]

It doesn't fit the wrapping MO in my opinion. LISK/Manorville Butcher wraps everything up.

 

[hawkshaw]

Wrong. Your information is DEAD wrong here.
Your information comes from "telephone" game
where one thing is told and expanded, and then it gets
retold and expanded again

so in the end
it's not true AT ALL.

I just put it out as I hear it. Your information may be just as good as mine if not better. Always appreciate input.

 

[Breaking Bad]

I just put it out as I hear it. Your information may be just as good as mine if not better. Always appreciate input.

I think you do know, by now, in this case
there is an awful lot of
misinformation
that gets passed around and then
people think that the wrong information
is right.

It's just one of those things.

 

[SecretAgentMan]

The PANTY to LISK connection: My information is 3 of the GB4 were killed by having their panties shoved down their throats. Now I am not suggesting for a moment the judge is LISK, but it sure is interesting if my information is right.about 3 GB4 had panties in their throats.

If this is true, this is new information not reported anywhere else that I've seen. If it is true, this would be an M.O. of the killer, but there's a hidden meaning behind him stuffing panties down an escorts throat.

I've always wondered if he had sex with these girls......maybe he never intended to, & just wanted to torture & kill them.

 

[SecretAgentMan]

What the FEDS should have done when they arrested Burke was to take his computers. They should have torn his SUV apart to see if he had video recording equipment secreted in his vehicle to film his love conquests. Who rides around with various sex toys and lubricants in their car.

Surprised to hear they didn't confiscate his computers or go thru it.

 

[SecretAgentMan]

Speaking of stupid . He was still around when the cops showed up.

Yeah, not very bright.....eventually mistakes are made, but this was a big one standing around knocking on a door of an unknown neighbor pretending to know them.

You know the victim saw you, the last thing you should have on your person is "worn panties"

 

[SecretAgentMan]

I have no doubt there is corruption and coverups in LI. But with all due respect, I just can’t jump on board with LISK being LE and/or a conspiracy to cover it up. First, LISK is a twisted demented individual and I simply can’t fathom that nothing would show up during the Psych Evaluation taken prior to becoming LE. Second, Is it a stretch to think the pervert carrying around (stolen) women’s underwear and/or sex toys (who could’ve easily slipped through the crack during the eval’s) is the same as the sadistic murderer who hacks up women and drives to multiple locations with her body (body parts) in tow? If this is the case, then something would have also shown up on their Eval to suggest they are capable of turning a blind eye and covering up one of most heinous crimes imaginable. Unless he/she expects this during a career in LE, how could that person take the exam and not come out looking like a total psychopath? Anyone know?


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Are you saying every cop is innocent of wrong doing? There are crooked cops everywhere, & some are serial killers.

I've watched Forensic Files & other documentarys where they've caught cops as serial rapists &/or serial killers.

People should worry about the cops they don't catch, which are probably more than they do catch.

 

[Orville Butch]

Speaking of stupid . He was still around when the cops showed up.

Well you know why that is right? Unfortunately for him **** is way too hot in Suffolk County and it's every man for himself

 

[deedee21]

We would all like to know what happen.
But I dont think we ever will.
No arrest has been made.
What does LE need to make that happen?
Besides the will.

 

[crimehunter58]

Are you saying every cop is innocent of wrong doing? There are crooked cops everywhere, & some are serial killers.

I've watched Forensic Files & other documentarys where they've caught cops as serial rapists &/or serial killers.

People should worry about the cops they don't catch, which are probably more than they do catch.

I am not an naive to there being crooked cops. I can recall those exact cases of them being SK's, just as you have mentioned. I was simply stating that being a pervert is much different than being a sadistic SK and this level of psychopathy (key word) SHOULD (keyword) have been detected during the evaluations. The question is... if he is in LE, then how did this get overlooked and if he could skew the eval somehow ... it was just a question.


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[hawkshaw]

If this is true, this is new information not reported anywhere else that I've seen. If it is true, this would be an M.O. of the killer, but there's a hidden meaning behind him stuffing panties down an escorts throat.

I've always wondered if he had sex with these girls......maybe he never intended to, & just wanted to torture & kill them.

Do you mean like stuffing stones down a kids throat? They make it up as they go along.

How about this one: A guy was at Gossips when he left a room in the downstairs room while a stripper was giving a certain person a lap dance. When he came back he saw that guy have his tie wrapped around the gal's neck and her falling on the floor. No telephone game here because I know the guy that was there.

Then the other story from another guy I spoke to personally. His boss knocked up a 15 year old black girl. There was a big stink. My guy told the guy you cant do this. The other guy said......so what she is a n......r . But she is only 15 years old.

 

[SecretAgentMan]

I am not an naive to there being crooked cops. I can recall those exact cases of them being SK's, just as you have mentioned. I was simply stating that being a pervert is much different than being a sadistic SK and this level of psychopathy (key word) SHOULD (keyword) have been detected during the evaluations. The question is... if he is in LE, then how did this get overlooked and if he could skew the eval somehow ... it was just a question.


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Hey, I hear you.....I know a psych evaluation isn't in the same ball park as a lie detector test, but sociopaths/psychopaths have been known to pass the lie detectors.

I'm assuming sometimes they pass those psych evaluations as well.

 

[SecretAgentMan]

Do you mean like stuffing stones down a kids throat? They make it up as they go along.

How about this one: A guy was at Gossips when he left a room in the downstairs room while a stripper was giving a certain person a lap dance. When he came back he saw that guy have his tie wrapped around the gal's neck and her falling on the floor. No telephone game here because I know the guy that was there.

Then the other story from another guy I spoke to personally. His boss knocked up a 15 year old black girl. There was a big stink. My guy told the guy you cant do this. The other guy said......so what she is a n......r . But she is only 15 years old.

I forgot the story about the stones down the kids throat I see where you made the connection. If the feds think he may be their man, they need to find more evidence linking him......Suffolk County is a cesspool, so much corruption, makes your head spin trying to connect the dots/trying to figure out what's going on.

You had James Bissett supposedly commit suicide, when he had the world by the balls, guy was a millionaire many times over & offs himself when the investigation is getting hot & a day after Shannon Gilbert is found. (Could all be a coincidence)

This case & these killings are truly tragic.....

 

[Breaking Bad]

I forgot the story about the stones down the kids throat I see where you made the connection. If the feds think he may be their man, they need to find more evidence linking him......Suffolk County is a cesspool, so much corruption, makes your head spin trying to connect the dots/trying to figure out what's going on.

You had James Bissett supposedly commit suicide, when he had the world by the balls, guy was a millionaire many times over & offs himself when the investigation is getting hot & a day after Shannon Gilbert is found. (Could all be a coincidence)

This case & these killings are truly tragic.....

No co-IN-key-dink.
he was killed.

 

[hawkshaw]

I forgot the story about the stones down the kids throat I see where you made the connection. If the feds think he may be their man, they need to find more evidence linking him......Suffolk County is a cesspool, so much corruption, makes your head spin trying to connect the dots/trying to figure out what's going on.

You had James Bissett supposedly commit suicide, when he had the world by the balls, guy was a millionaire many times over & offs himself when the investigation is getting hot & a day after Shannon Gilbert is found. (Could all be a coincidence)

This case & these killings are truly tragic.....

Stones in the throat. Sure four kids sat around a dying young man playing the newest game in town: Put stones down a kid's throat. It is such a wonderful game each of the 4 kids wants a chance to do this. wow, will wonders ever cease.

Let us now skip a couple of days later, A search team is organized and it just happens to go to the same schoolyard where the body is buried. This search team should hire themselves out to track for other victims, if not that search for Capt. Kidd's gold.

Burke says Michael Q told him he never struck Pius. The ONLY thing MQ admits to is he put John's bike against the tree. Trouble with that story is Pius Sr. tells us the bike was hidden under leaves when they found John Jrs. body.

Little Jimmy was so impressed with the police that investigated this case that he longed for the day he could be just like them. Fact is he was so 'good' at being just like them they made him the CHIEF!

 

[hawkshaw]

I am not an naive to there being crooked cops. I can recall those exact cases of them being SK's, just as you have mentioned. I was simply stating that being a pervert is much different than being a sadistic SK and this level of psychopathy (key word) SHOULD (keyword) have been detected during the evaluations. The question is... if he is in LE, then how did this get overlooked and if he could skew the eval somehow ... it was just a question.


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It is my understanding the people most responsible for taking down Jim Burke were SCPD cops. You don't those damaging IAB reports about Burke and his hooker girlfriend without cops. You don't get a major newspaper to write stories about a very high ranking cop unless the story was corroborated by cops.

The people that least deserved this animal are the COPS that had to work under him. He liked to hurt people, even many cops simply because he enjoyed doing it.

 

[deedee21]

Wrong. Your information is DEAD wrong here.
Your information comes from "telephone" game
where one thing is told and expanded, and then it gets
retold and expanded again

so in the end
it's not true AT ALL.

How can you be sure your information is more reliable?

 

[deedee21]

Just too many stories about what SOME of them do to agree with you. Truth is the more I look at it the more I believe Burke has something to do with it in some fashion or another. No doubt in my mind is if he didn't actually do it he knows something about it.

Six degrees of seperation at the very least.
Both Varrone and Dormer said Burke was not interested in being briefed.
He knew enough.

 

[hawkshaw]

Six degrees of seperation at the very least.
Both Varrone and Dormer said Burke was not interested in being briefed.
He knew enough.

'HE KNEW ENOUGH' I am glad you saw the obvious. How is it the incoming Chief of the Department who wasn't the Chief when Dormer was the PC didn't ask, nor did he ask? Because he knew Varrone and Dormer would be gone when Bellone was CE. Fact is Dormer once said the detectives didn't tell him everything. How could that be. Burke knew his old pal Madigan was going to be the new Chief of Detectives once Bellone took over. KEEP in mind that MADIGAN replaced Burke when he became Chief and led the SCPD DA Squad after Burke became Chief.

Also, keep in mind that Madigan retired soon after the 10 or so who were arrested of a case we still haven't been told what the disposition of those arrests, AND that is believed testify on Burke with perjury and obstruction of justice.

 

[Breaking Bad]

'HE KNEW ENOUGH' I am glad you saw the obvious. How is it the incoming Chief of the Department who wasn't the Chief when Dormer was the PC didn't ask, nor did he ask? Because he knew Varrone and Dormer would be gone when Bellone was CE. Fact is Dormer once said the detectives didn't tell him everything. How could that be. Burke knew his old pal Madigan was going to be the new Chief of Detectives once Bellone took over. KEEP in mind that MADIGAN replaced Burke when he became Chief and led the SCPD DA Squad after Burke became Chief.

Also, keep in mind that Madigan retired soon after the 10 or so who were arrested of a case we still haven't been told what the disposition of those arrests, AND that is believed testify on Burke with perjury and obstruction of justice.

Whats downright scary is that Stuart Cameron is now the ScPD top cop.
He was in the thick of Shanann's investigation from day one.
No surprize they made Cameron top cop - he has a permanent scowl on his face
or more of a F*K Q look -

He was NOT nice to the families in the investigation