Working Theories Thread

[BeanE]

Respectfully B&CBM. I have a pretty good idea what that motive may be, but Im not sure if Im able to post it. Mods: Am I able to discuss SM's online handle and possible postings?

It depends on if you can prove it is Terri. If you'd like, you can PM me the info and I'll check it out. I may not get to it until tomorrow morning.

 

[Jetaime]

Okies, ty!

 

[carbuff]

I keep thinking of Annie Le and wondering whether Kyron ever left that school building.

 

[mike_oxbig1414]

First off... Emma, you are one of the best (if not best) contributors to this site... IMO, in light of all evidence to now, SM is the one and only that had the OPPORTUNITY to take KH at the time. And by OPPORTUNITY I mean completely PRE-MEDITATED. My first post but here it goes... I've studied the PC's and there is no way I buy any of SM's emotions.. Not to mention her FB postings (if thats allowed). Insane that someone who reared a child from birth can snuff them out so easily with no conciense ... again just my opinion. RIP Kyron, as that is the only logical end for you. God bless.

 

[glorybug]

All of these are interesting theories, but not one of them is workable without explaining WHERE the 18month old is during this entire time.

 

[mike_oxbig1414]

All of these are interesting theories, but not one of them is workable without explaining WHERE the 18month old is during this entire time.

18 month old left lying on the floor for an hour... no prob, no reprocussions (with 18 mo)

 

[TakeNote]

has anyone thought the photo of kyron at school infront of his frog project look photo shop at all?

 

[TrialAddict]

We don't know if the dad was home when she took Kyron to school. If he was he probably stayed with the baby jmo

 

[RoughlyCollie]

I keep thinking of Annie Le and wondering whether Kyron ever left that school building.

There were two other cases like that, one in GA involving a veteran (IIRC) and one involving a male college student -- both found dead in areas that had already been searched.

I've been thinking about that, too.

 

[scandi]

All of these are interesting theories, but not one of them is workable without explaining WHERE the 18month old is during this entire time.

Yes, and we don't have a link to anything about that IMO. I've read only posters speculating, or heard this or that.

 

[mysticrose]

It could be possible that the 18month old was dropped off at daycare for the day, by either Kaine or TM.

 

[seeking truth]

All of these are interesting theories, but not one of them is workable without explaining WHERE the 18month old is during this entire time.

Well, since nothing has been reported, it could be as simple as Terri had her with a babysitter for the day. Or Kaine had her. Or, Terri's mother had the baby that day.

 

[s_finch]

There were two other cases like that, one in GA involving a veteran (IIRC) and one involving a male college student -- both found dead in areas that had already been searched.

I've been thinking about that, too.

It is puzzling how they never found the college student in the electrical closet but did they bring dogs into the dorm? I'm thinking they didn't but I could be wrong.

 

[seeking truth]

18 month old left lying on the floor for an hour... no prob, no reprocussions (with 18 mo)

Sure, what could possibly go wrong with that?!:angel:

 

[impatientredhead]

There were two other cases like that, one in GA involving a veteran (IIRC) and one involving a male college student -- both found dead in areas that had already been searched.

I've been thinking about that, too.

This idea came up in the general discussion threads and there were several examples pulled, one where a body was under a bed in a motel room for weeks (while people rented the room) and was not noticed by anyone, there was one here in Seattle this February where a woman in a YMCA rental was dead in her room for 7 weeks, very very tight quarters, no one noticed a thing. I double checked the timeline on Annie, it took them a week to find her in a building they were actively searching. The college student that was elecrocuted was months after the fact.

I very much thought he never left the school but the reports of SM being the focus of the investigation (supposedly, allegedly, etc...) have made me rethink that.

They are spending a lot of time and money searching the water of that Island, they have to have a good reason to do so.

 

[txsvicki]

I do not suspect the SM and haven't really seen anything too suspcious so far, but, I could see a scenario where a person who is intolerant of perceived bad behavior in a child might get mad if he was disappointed or made a remark that his project wasn't as good as another kid's. The parent might punish the child by not allowing him to stay at school for the rest of the fun day, talent show. Again, I know nothing about this woman's personality or method of punishment. I can't really see someone wanting to take a child when they're already at school and then having the rest of the day to get things done. That would have to be a very rigid person and one who doesn't believe in kids acting up & one who follows through immediately on punishment.

 

[mysticrose]

I think this was totally premeditated. I think part of this plan was her older son being moved away to live elsewhere ..

I believe Terri took Kyron to school that morning early to do the walk through at the science fair snapped her pic to show he was there.
I believe she made sure Kyron's stuff (back Pack and coat) made it to the classroom to make it appear he was there. Then I do believe she made her appearence at the gym with Kyron and hollered at the teacher about the appointment across the gym knowing full well in all the confusion that the teacher would not panick if Kyron was gone, the teacher would just assume Kyron was with Terri.
I also believe she either told Kyron he had an appointment as well/ or told him that they were going to get real life tree frog for his project to get him back to the truck, she may have had him wait for her and had him come out another door so she was not seen walking out with him.
She also would be full aware that with all the hustle and bustle going on that she would more then likley not be seen leaving with him,and she knew class role call would not be called until later on in the day. She drove the truck on purpose as for one it is not as noticable as her mustang and the truck would allow her to drive to more areas to get rid of Kyron's body.
I am not sure what her motive would be as by all accounts everything seemed and looked right.
Jealousy may play a big factor here in regards to Kaine paying to much attention to Kyron and not her and the new baby, jealous because of the relationship he still shared with his exwife in regards to Kyron. I feel it is something along those lines given the fact that she has helped raise him from an infant.

I think the babe was dropped off at daycare by either her or dad that morning...

Anyhow this is jmho of course fwiw ....

 

[impatientredhead]

So if SM did do this and it was planned, the part I am confused about is she could not have known for sure that she could make an appearance at the school, take a photo, and have no one be able to say they saw him leave with her.

I am wondering if the plan wasn't more along the lines of she was expecting a call from the school saying he was absent. I am not sure what the plan was when that call came in but that is the logical outcome of a child not being at school.

Was she going to say he was sick, acting odd, that he was with someone else?
Did the plan change when no one called?
How good of job did she do when "finding out" he wasn't on the bus.

I have no problem thinking a parent/caretaker is responsible. Statistically they almost always are. But showing up at the school and being that confident that no one saw him leave doesn't make sense to me.

And they are being very clear to say SM was the last one to see him, that means no student or friend is saying they walked to the exhibits with him.

I am wondering if what the teacher's saw was SM walking around the school that morning. If we really do not know when the photo was taken I wonder if he was really there that morning.

I don't get calmly planning to kill a young child. I guess rage flip outs make so much more sense to and piecing together an alibi after the fact seems more logical to me. To preplan it and then have your phone ping in a place you didn't say you were makes no sense to me.

Arrrggh

 

[mysticrose]

I was reading a few articles about why women kill their children it has been very interesting, the statistics are far more then people want to believe. You should google it, it helps to bring some perspective......

 

[sofia76]

I am wondering if the plan wasn't more along the lines of she was expecting a call from the school saying he was absent. I am not sure what the plan was when that call came in but that is the logical outcome of a child not being at school.

Was she going to say he was sick, acting odd, that he was with someone else?
Did the plan change when no one called?
How good of job did she do when "finding out" he wasn't on the bus.

Skyline Elementary had no policy of calling in when students were absent, so if she is the culprit, she would have known that no one would call her.