Wow! Thank God for Richard Grund & Thank God LP Told on the Anthony's!!

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Ah but didn't he say he started it back up in Nov of 07 for a couple of months?

Jesse, Amy, Ricardo all started out saying Casey was a good Mom and that she would never do anything to hurt Caylee. Then Jesse , Amy Ricardo and Troy had a meeting. Next thing you know they are all throwing her under the bus. Just very interesting to me.

Hi notthatsmart.
In regards to the 3 people you mention about.
Yes, at the very least, it would be interesting to learn a person you were very close to and thought you knew.. stole from you, lied to you, lied about you, cheated on you and deceived you in just about every possible way...:twocents:
IMHO, Casey kept her differing groups of friends and her family separate so they could not compare stories and realize that she was living a life based on deceit.
But that's JHMO based on personal experience with a compulsive liar within my own extended family.
 
  • #162
IMO Jesse knows way more than he is telling/or what has been released............He is one who spoke w KC on the 16th of June, 2:35 pm. When
he was interviwed the first time, he spoke of Caylee in the past tense " I only knew caylee the first 11 months when she was alive" This interview took place on June 23rd of 2008..........By the second interview he lawyered up. It is in the sticky forum.

Ok, finally found the quote of what JG said. I didn't know the 7/31 interview was in the same pdf as the earlier one! Geez.

So, it is as I thought, the interview shows they were just talking about Caylee in the past tense because they were wondering about where kc would put Caylee in case "something happened" for example like the Sandbox. Also discussing whether KC would get help from someone else like AL or keep it to herself.

So in summary, means nothing, just as I thought.
 
  • #163
If anyone is throwing people under the bus I would say that it is Casey and Cindy. Cindy stated in her interview that she felt "zanny" was code for Amy and/or Ricardo. Cindy has also stated that she feels that Jesse had something to do with what happened to Caylee. Casey has stated that Jesse couldn't be trusted. The problem is, all three of those people have cared more about what happened to Caylee than her own mother and grandparents. Cindy is showing a trend of blaming someone else who has "wronged" the family. If Cindy really wanted the guilty person to pay then she would do whatever it takes to make sure Casey is convicted.

IMO

What is that old proverb about a man always pointing his finger at someone...having three fingers pointed back at him?
 
  • #164
If anyone is throwing people under the bus I would say that it is Casey and Cindy. Cindy stated in her interview that she felt "zanny" was code for Amy and/or Ricardo. Cindy has also stated that she feels that Jesse had something to do with what happened to Caylee. Casey has stated that Jesse couldn't be trusted. The problem is, all three of those people have cared more about what happened to Caylee than her own mother and grandparents. Cindy is showing a trend of blaming someone else who has "wronged" the family. If Cindy really wanted the guilty person to pay then she would do whatever it takes to make sure Casey is convicted.

IMO

BBM...

I think CA is doing exactly that, she sure hasn't done KC any favors has she?
 
  • #165
Casey is the bus.

But I think Casey had most people fooled. Remember how she always appeared to love all the same things her boyfriends liked? How she moulded herself into what ever she thought they would think was desirable? Well, it doesn't surprise me if she put on her "Mother of the Year" face for all her friends. I don't think they were revising history as much as finally being able to see the whole picture of her character!!!

The gig was up.
 
  • #166
BBM...

I think CA is doing exactly that, she sure hasn't done KC any favors has she?

Every time she opens her mouth or posts on a blog she does exactly that.
She has become an object of ridicule, which is sad, since she was the primary caregiver for Caylee realistically, all of her life, and obviously adored her.
She does not seem to realize the damage she does. At least I think that's the way it works
 
  • #167
Every time she opens her mouth or posts on a blog she does exactly that.
She has become an object of ridicule, which is sad, since she was the primary caregiver for Caylee realistically, all of her life, and obviously adored her.
She does not seem to realize the damage she does. At least I think that's the way it works

Ah, but she does know and she hates Casey and subconsciously I think she does it on purpose ( of course not out loud or in the open, or maybe that she even admits to herself), but I believe she can protest otherwise all day long, I believe she does know she is hurting the case for Casey. And still she continues..... so we are left to infer that deep down, beyond the lies she misses the baby more than she wants to help Casey. (my opinion only)
 
  • #168
I think that Cindy started out by wanting to protect Casey. George too. Who in their right mind would clean up and out a car that smells of death without first alerting LE?!? Cindy's problem is that once she helped Casey out after the fact she can no longer admit to what she did or why she did it. Cindy may in fact hate Casey but Cindy has put herself in this position of having to defend the person that killed (IMO) her grand-daughter.
 
  • #169
Is the defense still going to attack Jesse at trial, they don't seem to pick A SUSPECT, they seem to want to say any of these other dudes could have done it. They are still going after him at trial, right?
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr9dOZZPDC8[/ame]
 
  • #170
Is the defense still going to attack Jesse at trial, they don't seem to pick A SUSPECT, they seem to want to say any of these other dudes could have done it. They are still going after him at trial, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr9dOZZPDC8

I think this kid should sue their pants off...All the Anthony's who maligned him.
because they will make money off this one day with a movie :furious: he should be attached to every dime they make. :furious: For all the chit they put him through for what? for loving their granddaughter?
 
  • #171
Is the defense still going to attack Jesse at trial, they don't seem to pick A SUSPECT, they seem to want to say any of these other dudes could have done it. They are still going after him at trial, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr9dOZZPDC8

I think they will go after him at trial, but they will not flat out accuse him (or maybe they will?)-They will use him for reasonable doubt in any way they can.

JG would be a better candidate for this than RK, because JG can be tied back to a living Caylee. In his LE interview, LE asked JG if he had been near the A's house in that summer timeframe. He first said no, then said yes, he may have been over that way when doing police work, but had not been to her house. This could potentially put his cell phone pings near their house.

Thank God he took a poly, thank God LE investigated the heck out of him, because he would tie in perfectly to just about everything KC claimed. Even the nanny story could be plausible, if KC continues to claim that she was frightened for her family and that JG is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
 
  • #172
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Ah but didn't he say he started it back up in Nov of 07 for a couple of months?

Jesse, Amy, Ricardo all started out saying Casey was a good Mom and that she would never do anything to hurt Caylee. Then Jesse , Amy Ricardo and Troy had a meeting. Next thing you know they are all throwing her under the bus. Just very interesting to me.

Don't forget they ALL thought she had a job and was attending college. When the truth came out maybe they started thinking back and during the meeting compared notes. You can't hide lies forever. Some of that "good mother" may have come from stories KC spun herself. Surprise, surprise. JMO
 
  • #173
Don't forget they ALL thought she had a job and was attending college. When the truth came out maybe they started thinking back and during the meeting compared notes. You can't hide lies forever. Some of that "good mother" may have come from stories KC spun herself. Surprise, surprise. JMO

ITA - first of all, most of them probably don't know anything at all about parenting - it's easy to act like a good mommy for show for a few hours in front of kids who do not have their own children. KC seems like someone who was very adept at creating personas to please people - like a chameleon - when necessary. Trouble is, they appear to be very superficial. A lot of sociopaths and other personality disorders are quite charming and capable when they are getting what they want or need to impress people. I don't blame the fact that her friends did not suspect her - she could be quite the "pleaser" when she needed their approval. I have to trust CA's impressions - she was around her the longest and saw her when she was not showing off for her friends. She knew there was another side to KC and was worried about it.The ones that knew her the longest (JG, AD) and not for only a few months (like AL and AH) admitted they had discovered she was an Olympic medal liar. The other two began to question their impressions when the lying and stealing came to light.
 
  • #174
ITA - first of all, most of them probably don't know anything at all about parenting - it's easy to act like a good mommy for show for a few hours in front of kids who do not have their own children. KC seems like someone who was very adept at creating personas to please people - like a chameleon - when necessary. Trouble is, they appear to be very superficial. A lot of sociopaths and other personality disorders are quite charming and capable when they are getting what they want or need to impress people. I don't blame the fact that her friends did not suspect her - she could be quite the "pleaser" when she needed their approval. I have to trust CA's impressions - she was around her the longest and saw her when she was not showing off for her friends. She knew there was another side to KC and was worried about it.The ones that knew her the longest (JG, AD) and not for only a few months (like AL and AH) admitted they had discovered she was an Olympic medal liar. The other two began to question their impressions when the lying and stealing came to light.

Yes, and jealous little Casey revealed her other side to the computer store owner, there we got a glimpse!
 
  • #175
Yes, and jealous little Casey revealed her other side to the computer store owner, there we got a glimpse!

That's true - she didn't have her parents or her friends around to notice how she was treating Caylee so she dropped the act.

I also think we got a good glimpse of her true colors when we see her talking to CA during the jailhouse tapes - as soon as CA begins pressing for information, KC loses it and gets so angry she "can't swallow". A normal person would be glad her mother is asking every question under the sun to find Caylee and would understand it is worry and grief that is making her leave no stone unturned. It made me physically sick when she laughed at her mom for "crying already".

We also heard her in the first phone conversations from jail, where she is clearly upset that everyone is more worried about finding Caylee than giving KC a chance to talk to her boyfriend. She has a hard time covering up the fact she is far less interested in her baby than her current squeeze and the fact she is inconvenienced by being in jail for lying her behind off about Caylee. It's apparent that she is not used to receiving real consequences for lying or much of anything else.

And then there is GA's description of the gas cans. I don't think many fathers who wanted to get something out of the trunk of their daughter's car would expect them to throw gas cans and say "here's your f---ing cans" like she did. It's clear she treated her parents terribly and with no respect regardless of how they acted toward her.

The fact she won't even turn and make eye contact with them or acknowledge their existence in court looks even worse.
 
  • #176
That's true - she didn't have her parents or her friends around to notice how she was treating Caylee so she dropped the act.

I also think we got a good glimpse of her true colors when we see her talking to CA during the jailhouse tapes - as soon as CA begins pressing for information, KC loses it and gets so angry she "can't swallow". A normal person would be glad her mother is asking every question under the sun to find Caylee and would understand it is worry and grief that is making her leave no stone unturned. It made me physically sick when she laughed at her mom for "crying already".

We also heard her in the first phone conversations from jail, where she is clearly upset that everyone is more worried about finding Caylee than giving KC a chance to talk to her boyfriend. She has a hard time covering up the fact she is far less interested in her baby than her current squeeze and the fact she is inconvenienced by being in jail for lying her behind off about Caylee. It's apparent that she is not used to receiving real consequences for lying or much of anything else.

And then there is GA's description of the gas cans. I don't think many fathers who wanted to get something out of the trunk of their daughter's car would expect them to throw gas cans and say "here's your f---ing cans" like she did. It's clear she treated her parents terribly and with no respect regardless of how they acted toward her.

The fact she won't even turn and make eye contact with them or acknowledge their existence in court looks even worse.


She's punishing them. Another sad glimpse into how she controlled her parents and still trying.
 
  • #177
She's punishing them. Another sad glimpse into how she controlled her parents and still trying.

Well none of them have the slightest clue as to how to win friends and influence people. Their attempts to control public perception in the media are so counterintuitive to basic PR principles it is absolutely mind-boggling. They think they know what they are doing and it always backfires or achieves the opposite result.

CA and GA could have had them eating out of their hands if they hadn't acted like their daughter was a saint. People would have sympathized. As it is, they give the impression they have turned Caylee into a discarded Disney cartoon and their daughter into someone nobody would believe after listening to her for five minutes.
 
  • #178
Have we heard from our colorful cowboy, Tracy or Rob lately? Do we know how Jesse is, he moved away and made a new life right? I wish him THE BEST!!!
 
  • #179
Have we heard from our colorful cowboy, Tracy or Rob lately? Do we know how Jesse is, he moved away and made a new life right? I wish him THE BEST!!!

I do too. He must really be thanking his stars that he dodged a bullet by being out of Casey's life. One thing I will never understand is why in heaven's name Mallory has stuck around. I seriously question her motives, if not her sanity. No responsible person would stick around this family for any reason. I think I may say some prayers for the little girl cindy is babysitting as well. Yikes!!
 
  • #180
Check out 215 mark George is saying the Blanchard Park story had Jesse holding Casey down, no wait, then it was Zenaida..... good Lord!

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGKHxCr0WmE[/ame]
 
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