Wrongful Death Suit filed Nov. 13, 2013 in California, #3

[LuckyLucy2]

Insider says the ear-witness of Rebecca's cries for help the night she was murdered is NOT the good news. There's apparently MORE TO COME. Hopefully we hear it SOON (hint hint to insider)

If true, I'm sure Attorney Greer will be back in the media. I've never seen a case like this where the Attorney is in the news every other day trying to taint the jury.

I have no doubts this will be thrown out when the SUMMARY JUDGEMENT comes on Ocotber 9. That is good, since if it were to go forward, the Shacknais would need to have the venue changed since the Defeat Zahaus have tried so hard to influence any jury members.

 

[bourne]

Dina never SUED Lisa Luber. She tried to compel her to testify. BIG difference. Just because you say something, doesn't make it true.

And you don't know WHY Dina wanted Lisa to testify. You are simply ASSUMING.

NO. Read the case files. According to insider, Mrs. Luber was SUED by Dina in AZ court with a subpoena to force Mrs. Luber to testify on Dina's behalf. Again check the files. Dina's suit against Mrs. Luber was then DISMISSED WITH PREJUDICE, meaning Dina cannot sue Mrs. Luber again to testify re: Dina's whereabouts the time period Rebecca was murdered, AND whatever else Dina was FISHING Mrs. Luber for. You can try your damnest to twist the facts around but the case files are NOT wrong or lying.

Also, insider said that Jonah filed a "PROTECTIVE ORDER" against Dina in Dina's WDS suit against Jonah, and the Judge will soon DISMISS WITH PREJUDICE Dina's absurd WDS against Jonah wherein she was MOST OBVIOUSLY AFTER Jonah's MONEY and nothing else. Dina alleged in her WDS that it was Rebecca <modsnip> who caused the fatal accident of Max; yet Dina did not even sue Rebecca at all... Note how Dina no longer dared call Max's death a "homicide" either. Hint, hint. This means even Dina knows she was FABRICATING NONSENSE in prior years with her FAKE expert report stating slanderous FALSEHOODS against Rebecca. <modsnip>

Look forward to the Case Management Conference as AZlawyer stated in legal Zahau thread will be an excellent time for Dina to produce whatever BS evidence she has to support any of her fabricated alibi.

Sayonara Dina. Can't wait to arty: and hold parades in Coronado and AZ when you're finally in the slammer :jail: where you belong. :moo::moo:

 

[LuckyLucy2]

<modsnip>

Why would Dina want to SUE Rebecca Zahau, a person that is DEAD and OWNED nothing. What good would that do anyone.

Dina did not bring a $10 MILLION DOLLAR SUIT against Jonah. It is the Defeat Zahaus that are money hungry. So much so that the self-proclaimed "Christians" have accused three people of a impossible and heinous murder. They are the ones after money. That is ALL this is about.

Can't wait to see the evil, greedy, sham-artist Zahaus with egg on their face once the Judge throws it out. Of course, they will say the Judge was prejudiced,<modsnip>
Sorry but the PHYSICAL EVIDENCE proves Rebecca Zahau planned and carried out her weirdo suicide. The fact that Jonah Shacknai said almost nothing in the media about his "supposed love", and has not started a foundation in REBECCA'S name, like he did for Max, shows just what he thinks of her and who was responsible for Max's fall. It was Rebecca, <modsnip>.


Can't wait till October 9, 2015 when the greedy Zahaus are finally put in their place.

The citizens of San Diego and Coronado are so sick of seeing this lying family and their lying Attorney on the news, there WILL be a parade celebrating that it is FINALLY over for the FAMILY that lost their precious son under the CARE OF REBECCA ZAHAU.


:balloons: artyguy: arty: arty: artyguy: :balloons:

 

[IQuestion]

Hmmm, This is just an "open post" based on a poster suddenly using the words "under the care of Rebecca Zahau", "under her watch" "fatally injured on her watch"....
I think the change is because.......(this is mind blowing in regards to homeowner's policy and the WDS) " there is wording in the contract that speaks to criminal acts, my spin is there is never coverage for a criminal act as it would be against public policy."

Read more: http://www.insuranceclaimhelp.org/home-insurance-claims/#ixzz3a3eeaQY4
So, in a nutshell, Dina can not collect money for injury if she continues to pursue Max's death as a "criminal act."??? Right? I guess the money paid to Judy Melinek to keep repeating the definition of homicide kind of back fired on the homeowners claim. So in order to settle the homeowners claim.....a person would have to go along with "NO CRIMINAL ACT" in order to settle with the insurance company for big dollars." Isn't that "irony on steroids"....and the insurance company would probably insist the plaintiff sign a "white paper" of nondisclosure on the AMOUNT OF MONEY they received..... Well, well, well....that is an interesting thought.
If your home was robbed, you are the victim of a crime (robbery)and you have to make a police report in order to be reimbursed for your loss. But no insurance will reimburse you for a criminal act, that can not be proved.
I'm just thinking out loud here, but that would mean ONE CAN NO LONGER CLAIM REBECCA'S ACTS WERE CRIMINAL IN ORDER TO COLLECT FROM THE INSURANCE COMPANY.....hmmm??? And who said "WDSs" are just about money? For instance, the parents of a woman shot in her home, by her husband, can not collect from the homeowner's insurance company on a WDS, because the actions of the homeowner (ie the husband) was a willful criminal act. right?
Likewise, to receive compensation for injury to a child, the plaintiff would have to drop the criminal component (ie willful act) and now agree (outwardly at least) in order to collect under a homeowners insurance company.

 

[IQuestion]

"Insider" is very, very wrong. You can't SUE a person to testify. You can try to compel them to testify, which is what Dina did, but you can't SUE someone to testify. To think you can is absurd. I'll even post the question on the Law thread so you can others can see how wrong you are....again.

Why would Dina want to SUE Rebecca Zahau, a person that is DEAD and OWNED nothing. What good would that do anyone.

Dina did not bring a $10 MILLION DOLLAR SUIT against Jonah. It is the Defeat Zahaus that are money hungry. So much so that the self-proclaimed "Christians" have accused three people of a impossible and heinous murder. They are the ones after money. That is ALL this is about.

Can't wait to see the evil, greedy, sham-artist Zahaus with egg on their face once the Judge throws it out. Of course, they will say the Judge was prejudiced, just like you did, Bourne, when you thought things weren't going your way.

Sorry but the PHYSICAL EVIDENCE proves Rebecca Zahau planned and carried out her weirdo suicide. The fact that Jonah Shacknai said almost nothing in the media about his "supposed love", and has not started a foundation in REBECCA'S name, like he did for Max, shows just what he thinks of her and who was responsible for Max's fall. It was Rebecca, with the possible help of her sister.


Can't wait till October 9, 2015 when the greedy Zahaus are finally put in their place.

The citizens of San Diego and Coronado are so sick of seeing this lying family and their lying Attorney on the news, there WILL be a parade celebrating that it is FINALLY over for the FAMILY that lost their precious son under the CARE OF REBECCA ZAHAU.


:balloons: artyguy: arty: arty: artyguy: :balloons:

I don't think October 9, 2015 is a magical date that "convicts", "solves" or "puts anyone in their place." It just seems impossible that "one day" 6 months into the
future can be predicted as the day everything is"finally over for the family." There are just too many plaintiffs, defendants and unknowns on both of these cases.
However, if I was settling on a court case, I could say with all confidence, "I will be handing over a check, and you can cash it on Oct. 9, 2015." (I would be very upset if I had to hand over a large check. Sincerely, I would...the unfairness would make me want to scream. What I lack in objectivity, I compensate with empathy.)
Other than that, I can't imagine being able to predict what a judge will do or say, can you? I have no way of knowing whether or not another witness will turn up, or after the Zahau's received Rebecca's phone....which still may hold audio info....that some of the "nation's finest" could not retrieve. (go figure)

 

[screecher]

Excellent posts IQuestion. Bravo !!!

 

[IQuestion]

Excellent posts IQuestion. Bravo !!!

Thanks SCREECH :blushing::blushing:

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Hmmm, This is just an "open post" based on a poster suddenly using the words "under the care of Rebecca Zahau", "under her watch" "fatally injured on her watch"....
I think the change is because.......(this is mind blowing in regards to homeowner's policy and the WDS) " there is wording in the contract that speaks to criminal acts, my spin is there is never coverage for a criminal act as it would be against public policy."

Read more: http://www.insuranceclaimhelp.org/home-insurance-claims/#ixzz3a3eeaQY4
So, in a nutshell, Dina can not collect money for injury if she continues to pursue Max's death as a "criminal act."??? Right? I guess the money paid to Judy Melinek to keep repeating the definition of homicide kind of back fired on the homeowners claim. So in order to settle the homeowners claim.....a person would have to go along with "NO CRIMINAL ACT" in order to settle with the insurance company for big dollars." Isn't that "irony on steroids"....and the insurance company would probably insist the plaintiff sign a "white paper" of nondisclosure on the AMOUNT OF MONEY they received..... Well, well, well....that is an interesting thought.
If your home was robbed, you are the victim of a crime (robbery)and you have to make a police report in order to be reimbursed for your loss. But no insurance will reimburse you for a criminal act, that can not be proved.
I'm just thinking out loud here, but that would mean ONE CAN NO LONGER CLAIM REBECCA'S ACTS WERE CRIMINAL IN ORDER TO COLLECT FROM THE INSURANCE COMPANY.....hmmm??? And who said "WDSs" are just about money? For instance, the parents of a woman shot in her home, by her husband, can not collect from the homeowner's insurance company on a WDS, because the actions of the homeowner (ie the husband) was a willful criminal act. right?
Likewise, to receive compensation for injury to a child, the plaintiff would have to drop the criminal component (ie willful act) and now agree (outwardly at least) in order to collect under a homeowners insurance company.

Max's death from day one was "under the care of Rebecca Zahau", "under her watch" "fatally injured on her watch".

There has been no change. That is a fact and will remain a fact. It was reported in MSM. Rebecca Z. and her sister were there. Rebecca was the BABYSITTER. Accident or otherwise, Max died because of Rebecca Zahau.

I have no clue what homeowner's insurance has to do with that. Nothing, IMO.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

I don't think October 9, 2015 is a magical date that "convicts", "solves" or "puts anyone in their place." It just seems impossible that "one day" 6 months into the
future can be predicted as the day everything is"finally over for the family." There are just too many plaintiffs, defendants and unknowns on both of these cases.
However, if I was settling on a court case, I could say with all confidence, "I will be handing over a check, and you can cash it on Oct. 9, 2015." (I would be very upset if I had to hand over a large check. Sincerely, I would...the unfairness would make me want to scream. What I lack in objectivity, I compensate with empathy.)
Other than that, I can't imagine being able to predict what a judge will do or say, can you? I have no way of knowing whether or not another witness will turn up, or after the Zahau's received Rebecca's phone....which still may hold audio info....that some of the "nation's finest" could not retrieve. (go figure)

When Dina Shacknai gives her evidence to the Judge, the case will be DISMISSED with PREJUDICE. On October 9. Mark my words.

No one will be writing a check...except maybe for the Defeat Zahaus when they have to pay the Defendants legal costs.

 

[Inparadise]

Max's death from day one was "under the care of Rebecca Zahau", "under her watch" "fatally injured on her watch".

There has been no change. That is a fact and will remain a fact. It was reported in MSM. Rebecca Z. and her sister were there. Rebecca was the BABYSITTER. Accident or otherwise, Max died because of Rebecca Zahau.

I have no clue what homeowner's insurance has to do with that. Nothing, IMO.

Excuse me, but Max was under the care of Jonah. Rebecca was not Max's mother, merely Jonah's girlfriend. If Dina had objections to Rebecca "baby sitting" Max, she should have taken it up with Jonah and/or the Maricopa County Family Court. My guess is that she voiced her dislike of Rebecca being involved with Max to Jonah, but Jonah blew her off.......what happened to Max was not Rebecca's fault: what ever happened was in Jonah's house, and apparently he was just fine with Rebecca watching Max. IMO, Dina should be pressing Jonah for the whereabouts of his older children and himself that morning rather than be blaming the woman that Jonah left her for.

 

[screecher]

Excuse me, but Max was under the care of Jonah. Rebecca was not Max's mother, merely Jonah's girlfriend. If Dina had objections to Rebecca "baby sitting" Max, she should have taken it up with Jonah and/or the Maricopa County Family Court. My guess is that she voiced her dislike of Rebecca being involved with Max to Jonah, but Jonah blew her off.......what happened to Max was not Rebecca's fault: what ever happened was in Jonah's house, and apparently he was just fine with Rebecca watching Max. IMO, Dina should be pressing Jonah for the whereabouts of his older children and himself that morning rather than be blaming the woman that Jonah left her for.

Hear, hear !

Another excellent post ! Thanks Inparadise !

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Rebecca quit her job to live with Jonah and TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN. THAT has been reported in the MSM. REBECCA made that choice. SHE was in charge that day. SHE was the ADULT in the home.

THAT was the agreement that Jonah and Rebecca had - that SHE would watch Max when Jonah WAS NOT THERE.

And because REBECCA ZAHAU WAS NOT RESPONSIBLE, MAX had a tragic accident. While JONAH was at the gym, REBECCA was the BABYSITTER. You don't blame the parent if a BABYSITTER is negligent. Jonah SHOULD HAVE been able to TRUST Rebecca.

Dina KNOWS where Jonah and his children were that day - it is in the SDSO files. The only CHILD in the mansion was Rebecca's sister.

IT was REBECCA ZAHAU's FAULT that Max died. PERIOD.

 

[Inparadise]

Rebecca quit her job to live with Jonah and TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN. THAT has been reported in the MSM. REBECCA made that choice. SHE was in charge that day. SHE was the adult in the home. THAT was the agreement that Jonah and Rebecca had - that SHE would watch Max when Jonah WAS NOT THERE.

And because REBECCA ZAHAU WAS NOT RESPONSIBLE, MAX had a tragic accident. While JONAH was at the gym, REBECCA was the BABYSITTER. You don't blame the parent if a BABYSITTER is negligent. Jonah SHOULD HAVE been able to TRUST Rebecca.

IT was her FAULT that Max died. PERIOD.

According to the Family Court of Maricopa County, Jonah was the LEGAL custodian of Max, not Rebecca. Max died in Jonah's house: JONAH is responsible!

 

[LuckyLucy2]

So you think ANYTIME a BABYSITTER lets a child be fatally injured it is the PARENT'S FAULT????!!!!!

I doubt that Maricopa County would have jailed Jonah, assuming Rebecca Zahau had not killed herself, and Max's death had been found to be murder. It would have been REBECCA ZAHAU going to jail, not Jonah Shacknai.

:gaah:


Do you think THESE PARENTS are responsible for their children's death at the hands of a BABYSITTER?

http://listverse.com/2013/08/28/10-monstrous-killer-babysitters/

Sorry, I do not agree with you one bit.

I think ADULTS, even 32-year old ADULTS should be responsible for their OWN ACTIONS.

 

[screecher]

I wonder why DINA is suing Jonah if she thinks Rebecca was responsible. Probably her money from the divorce is running low, so she thinks she needs more?

 

[LuckyLucy2]

If Dina had a verbal agreement with Jonah that Max woud NEVER BE LEFT ALONE WITH REBECCA and ANOTHER ZAHAU family member, then she has every right to sue him for breaking their agreement.

Makes me wonder what Dina knew about "another Zahau family member". Can't wait for her book!

 

[Harmony 2]

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[justice be served]

Great post. It's nice to see clarity here once in a while here. Bravo!

Sorry, I seem to have lost the post I was attempting to respond to. By bad.

 

[justice be served]

Rebecca quit her job to live with Jonah and TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN. THAT has been reported in the MSM. REBECCA made that choice. SHE was in charge that day. SHE was the ADULT in the home.

THAT was the agreement that Jonah and Rebecca had - that SHE would watch Max when Jonah WAS NOT THERE.

And because REBECCA ZAHAU WAS NOT RESPONSIBLE, MAX had a tragic accident. While JONAH was at the gym, REBECCA was the BABYSITTER. You don't blame the parent if a BABYSITTER is negligent. Jonah SHOULD HAVE been able to TRUST Rebecca.

Dina KNOWS where Jonah and his children were that day - it is in the SDSO files. The only CHILD in the mansion was Rebecca's sister.

IT was REBECCA ZAHAU's FAULT that Max died. PERIOD.

There is a separate thread for the discussion of Max. Please, let's keep the subject matter germain to this thread - the WD lawsuit.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Max and Rebecca's deaths are intwined forever, since Rebecca took her life just about 40 hours after Max was fatally injured. Dina was at Max's bediside at Rady's ICU the evening and early morning of Max's death. That is what we were discussing, and then others took it to Dina's lawsuit with Jonah - also not part of this thread discussion.

It is impossible to talk about Rebecca Zahau's death without talking about Max's as well.