Wrongful Death Suit filed Nov. 13, 2013 in California, #3

[Frigga]

Don't. Take. The. Bait.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

What bait?

 

[LuckyLucy2]

I haven't seen the movie, but I did read the Wikipedia entry (which as we all know is infallible) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Housemaid_(2010_film)), and it seems that the housemaid herself is the victim of the "accident" on the stairs. She also hangs herself from the chandelier (near the stairs) rather than from the balcony and lights herself on fire.

In the original movie (again, according to Wikipedia) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Housemaid_(1960_film)), the housemaid does cause the man's son to fall down the stairs (and poisons his daughter), then commits suicide (with the man) by taking rat poison.

Hello AZLawyer! Sorry I am just now answering this, but was on a blissful vacation in Oahau, then back to the insanity of a new school year starting.

I have seen the 2010 movie and the housemaid/babysitter (Eun-yi) does indeed hang herself tied to a chandelier, but jumps from the balcony- with her hair under the noose. The balcony almost plays the role of another character in the movie and there are many shots that use it. Eun-yi seems to be jealous of the Rich husband's relationship with his wife, and jealous of the wife's relationship with the child and her position in the family. Eun-hi knows she will never be anything more than a babysitter to the husband, and will never be allowed to have his child. I have attached some screen shots from the film.

The movie was not in the original search warrant served, so I believe Jonah told LE about the movie during one of his interviews, and how Rebecca had spoken of feeling like the main character, Eun-yi, competing for time with the (ex) wife and child. Max's accident and her death certainly seem to mimick aspects of the film.

 

[screecher]

BBM

lulu,

"The movie was not in the original search warrant served, so I believe Jonah told LE about the movie during one of his interviews, and how Rebecca had spoken of feeling like the main character, Eun-yi, competing for time with the (ex) wife and child."

Ah, so you believe the above based on what? Did you have a convo with JS and /or LE? I doubt that. Sooo, I'm thinking the story you're putting out here, is not based on fact, nor logic.....is only rumor. lol

 

[Inparadise]

My guess is that Dina was the one who brought up this movie.........it was not found at the house when the police were investigating.............

 

[kittychi]

I don't remember where the comparison to the film came from. Was it in the house originally or was it planted in the house? Since it was not on the LE list, who knew it was in the house? If it was a resource for LE, why wouldn't they throw that into the mix along with all their other guesses about what happened to Rebecca?

Seems to me that the film inspired DS, not RZ.

 

[screecher]

Appears the only reason for Dina to be skirting her own deposition is that she knows she has *no* alibi and wants to press her defamation against the Zahaus with immigration nonsense. As KZ said, likely to try to get Zahau WDS case thrown out. But I am told by lawyer friends that the case will not be thrown out just because a plaintiff is not a legal immigrant. <AZLawyer may wish to expound on this>

I also don't believe Dina can suddenly find criminality in a Zahau plaintiff's past and get the WDS thrown out either.

Truly Dina appears to be simply using all her dilatory tactics to delay the WDS. It is most saliently clear that Dina has *no* alibi, and no valid defense in the WDS (and to me, it is most evident that Dina premeditated and murdered Rebecca in cold blood) and that is why Dina is using all these manipulative maneuvers and technicalities to try to get the case postponed till eternity. Good luck Dina because you will need it. That.Is.For.Certain.

BBM

Absolutely bourne!!!

 

[screecher]

kittychi,

I don't have any reason to think/believe it was ever in the house. IMO, it is a red herring.

(Regarding the movie lulu is posting about.)

 

[SweetT]

Hello AZLawyer! Sorry I am just now answering this, but was on a blissful vacation in Oahau, then back to the insanity of a new school year starting.

I have seen the 2010 movie and the housemaid/babysitter (Eun-yi) does indeed hang herself tied to a chandelier, but jumps from the balcony- with her hair under the noose. The balcony almost plays the role of another character in the movie and there are many shots that use it. Eun-yi seems to be jealous of the Rich husband's relationship with his wife, and jealous of the wife's relationship with the child and her position in the family. Eun-hi knows she will never be anything more than a babysitter to the husband, and will never be allowed to have his child. I have attached some screen shots from the film.

The movie was not in the original search warrant served, so I believe Jonah told LE about the movie during one of his interviews, and how Rebecca had spoken of feeling like the main character, Eun-yi, competing for time with the (ex) wife and child. Max's accident and her death certainly seem to mimick aspects of the film.

Seeing those pics of the chandelier and stuff really make me wonder what really happened in that house and with that chandelier that Maxie in no way could reach on his own to make it fall.

 

[SweetT]

My guess is that Dina was the one who brought up this movie.........it was not found at the house when the police were investigating.............

Do we know it wasn't at the house when they were investigating? Or did they just not think it was pertinent? I would have not known anything about the plot if not for reading about it on the internet.

 

[Jessica2012]

Hi SweetT,
The Late Ann Rule wrote about "The Housemaid" in her book, "Fatal Friends, Deadly Neighbors"
On page 199,
"Among the items sized on the Shacknai estate was a Japanese video titled The Housemaid. It's scenario was chillingly similar to aspects of the life Becky lived - a beautiful maid who was in love with her wealthy employer, who adored his child. It was an erotic love story"

"Seattle-based attorney Anne Bremner, who represents the Zahau family in their quest for a new investigation, said she gave Rule access to the sheriff’s full investigative file to help with the book."

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...ime-treatment/

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Ann Rule confirmed The Housemaid was taken as evidence from the mansion, and it was not on the original search warrants from 7/13/2011 that were released. But we know that eventually about 130 items were taken as evidence - as Dina has requested to see them all.

Since the movie the was not on the original search warrant, someone had to tell them about the movie and that Rebecca owned it. Logic says that was the person Rebecca lived with, Jonah Shacknai.

I wonder if she even said to him, "The hanging would have been even more dramatic if Eun-yi were nude?"

 

[justice be served]

L

Seeing those pics of the chandelier and stuff really make me wonder what really happened in that house and with that chandelier that Maxie in no way could reach on his own to make it fall.

Sweet T, this thread is only about the WDS lawsuit of Rebecca being murdered by Dina. Nina and Adam. LE already ruled that Max's death was accidental.

 

[justice be served]

Ann Rule confirmed The Housemaid was taken as evidence from the mansion, and it was not on the original search warrants from 7/13/2011 that were released. But we know that eventually about 130 items were taken as evidence - as Dina has requested to see them all.

Since the movie the was not on the original search warrant, someone had to tell them about the movie and that Rebecca owned it. Logic says that was the person Rebecca lived with, Jonah Shacknai.

I wonder if she even said to him, "The hanging would have been even more dramatic if Eun-yi were nude?"

Ann Rule is simply an author and her book is not a part of the official LE investigative file - no different than the Left Handed Kitten forum that Dina has referenced in her allegations on Max's death is also not a part of any official investigative file.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

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Sweet T, this thread is only about the WDS lawsuit of Rebecca being murdered by Dina. Nina and Adam. LE already ruled that Max's death was accidental.

And LE already ruled that Rebecca's death was a suicide. And Max's "accident" is why Rebecca Zahau committed suicide, and also the reason the Zahaus' claim that three innocent people murdered their sister in their sham civil case. Besides, seems like discussing Max's death is fine with everyone - Dina's lawsuit against Jonah certainly has been discussed at length.

In it, Dina claims that Max had told someone about a month before his death that he was scared of being alone with Rebecca, and that she had asked Jonah to never leave Max alone with Rebecca and XZ (we now know it was XZ she was concerned about as that information was in a document that KZ posted from Dina's case - I believe the Judge referred to them as "the Misses Zahaus responsible for watching Max".) And we've all seen the photos and videos where Max, the little boy with a huge smile, does not smile around Rebecca and seems uncomfortable with her.

And SweetT, you are right. There is no way Max brought down that chandelier.

JMO

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Ann Rule is simply an author and her book is not a part of the official LE investigative file - no different than the Left Handed Kitten forum that Dina has referenced in her allegations on Max's death is also not a part of any official investigative file.

But Ann Rule worked exclusively with Anne Bremner, who was the Zahaus' Attorney and Rule's best friend. And Rule had access to ALL the case files. AND she even quotes our own KZ in the book!

The Lefthanded Kitten site is a forum like WebSleuths and not affiliated with Dina Shacknai in any way - so your comparison makes no sense. I suppose you also think the Zahaus are behind WebSleuths since most of the posters in this thread are their supporters?

JMO

 

[jillycat]

If we are to look to comparisons that make no sense, it would be the one where Rebecca identifies with a video character's station as a maid, or the fantasy scenario where Rebecca tells Jonah the movie would be more dramatic if the dead maid was nude.

I don't see how wild speculation in the absence of supporting facts leads to reasonable conclusions about this woman's death and her family's rebuttal to the suicide ruling.

 

[K_Z]

New entry on the Maricopa county site on Dina's WDS as plaintiff against Jonah:

9/30/2015 NOT - Notice 9/30/2015
NOTE: NOTICE OF SUBSEQUENT EVENTS PERTINENT TO DEFENDANT&#8217;S SECOND MOTION FOR SANCTIONS --AND-- MOTION FOR EXPEDITED CONSIDERATION

https://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CivilCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CV2013-009289

I think this case will be wrapped up and dismissed even before the 30 days are up. JMO.

 

[K_Z]

Welcome to the discussion, jillycat!

:welcome5:

 

[jillycat]

Welcome to the discussion, jillycat!

:welcome5:

Thank you! I've enjoyed reading your posts and professional opinion.