Wrongful Death Suit filed Nov. 13, 2013 in California, #3

[Frigga]

Riiigghhht. Blame everything on Dina. The mother of a dead child due to Rebecca Zahau's negligence.

There has been so much HATE speech for this victim of Rebecca Zahau here. Makes me wonder why people would HATE Max's mother so much, when she was no where near the mansion when Rebecca hung herself. She was at Rady's with her critically injured son.

You are on a thread that is dedicated to a wrongful death suit for Rebecca and you seriously wonder why posters have strong feelings about Dina?

She is being accused of conspiring and carrying out a heinous murder.

I feel like I'm in upside down world when I come here to read and check on the status of the case and read your vitriolic posts.

My heart goes out to Dina at the loss of her beloved son- I can't even imagine the depths of her pain.

I also can't imagine the horror inflicted upon Rebecca and the pain she suffered the night I believe she was murdered.

I hold those feelings simultaneously.

I can't begin to imagine the immense sorrow felt by both of the families who lost their loved one(s) in this sordid mess.

If you are wrong about Rebecca and Dina is responsible for the murder of Rebecca- do you believe she should be held accountable? Would you feel sorrow for Rebecca's loved ones if you learned with absolute proof Dina was responsible?

I really want to know.

 

[Frigga]

Let's compare:
The movie character was a maid and a babysitter
Rebecca wasn't Jonah's maids
Rebecca left her job in Jan. 2011 to take care of Max and keep the house.

Quote of LL's response bolded by me.

Are you insinuating that stay-at-home moms are "maids"?

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Please. Rebecca was NOT a Mom.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

You are on a thread that is dedicated to a wrongful death suit for Rebecca and you seriously wonder why posters have strong feelings about Dina?

She is being accused of conspiring and carrying out a heinous murder.

I feel like I'm in upside down world when I come here to read and check on the status of the case and read your vitriolic posts.

My heart goes out to Dina at the loss of her beloved son- I can't even imagine the depths of her pain.

I also can't imagine the horror inflicted upon Rebecca and the pain she suffered the night I believe she was murdered.

I hold those feelings simultaneously.

I can't begin to imagine the immense sorrow felt by both of the families who lost their loved one(s) in this sordid mess.

If you are wrong about Rebecca and Dina is responsible for the murder of Rebecca- do you believe she should be held accountable? Would you feel sorrow for Rebecca's loved ones if you learned with absolute proof Dina was responsible?

I really want to know.

Perhaps you don't realize there are TWO sides to this bogus Wrongful Death Suit?

After FOUR years, THOUSANDS of rumors, FOUR lawyers, TWO reviews by the California Attorney General, and EIGHT iterations of their Complaint, the Zahaus and their followers STILL have no EVIDENCE that ANYONE killed Rebecca.

All PHYSICAL EVIDENCE shows Rebecca, and ONLY Rebecca was in xthat room painting on the door, getting paint on her breast, tying those ropes, and shuffling out to the balcony and going over.

Rebecca committed suicide with no help from anyone. It probably took her less than an hour to do everything.

ONLY REBECCA.

Dina was at Rady's with Max.

I am not wrong about Dina, as proved by the DETECTIVES that worked on the case.

Therefore, I will not "imagine" Dina had anything to do with it, for she did not. That's what the EVIDENCE, and LE says.

Also, do you have a LINK to show that Rebecca Zahau was heinously murdered? NO? Because it never happened? Then you need to state that as OPINION, not FACT, for it certainly is not FACT.

Rebecca's death was ruled a suicide. FACT.

http://sdsheriff.net/coronado/

I know the Zahaus hurt because of the death of their sister, but they LOST my sympathy when they began early to accuse others of murdering her, which began just EIGHT days after her death, when the investigation had barely begun.

I find accusing INNOCENT people, who are mourning the death of a child- because of Rebecca Zahau- of a horrible and sadistic murder just to make $10 Million DOLLARS utterly DESPICABLE. The LOWEST the LOW.

And don't be confused- it IS all about the MONEY.

That is why the Zahaus had so little support in their last fundraising attempt...the public is not STUPID.

JMO

 

[SweetT]

You are on a thread that is dedicated to a wrongful death suit for Rebecca and you seriously wonder why posters have strong feelings about Dina?

She is being accused of conspiring and carrying out a heinous murder.

I feel like I'm in upside down world when I come here to read and check on the status of the case and read your vitriolic posts.

My heart goes out to Dina at the loss of her beloved son- I can't even imagine the depths of her pain.

I also can't imagine the horror inflicted upon Rebecca and the pain she suffered the night I believe she was murdered.

I hold those feelings simultaneously.

I can't begin to imagine the immense sorrow felt by both of the families who lost their loved one(s) in this sordid mess.

If you are wrong about Rebecca and Dina is responsible for the murder of Rebecca- do you believe she should be held accountable? Would you feel sorrow for Rebecca's loved ones if you learned with absolute proof Dina was responsible?

I really want to know.

What if your wrong about Rebecca and she did kill Max? Would that change how you feel about Rebecca? Dina?

 

[Frigga]

What if your wrong about Rebecca and she did kill Max? Would that change how you feel about Rebecca? Dina?

Yes, absolutely and I would have no problem admitting it.

 

[BBL]

Yes, absolutely and I would have no problem admitting it.

Me too. Still don't think it would justify murdering Rebecca. But if I found for certain that Rebecca had harmed Max ON Purpose, you'd can be damn sure that my opinion of Rebecca would change. And, yes, I too would have no problem admitting it.

I'm curious though SweetT, neither you nor LL2 answered Frigga's question. "If you are wrong about Rebecca and Dina is responsible for the murder of Rebecca- do you believe she should be held accountable? Would you feel sorrow for Rebecca's loved ones if you learned with absolute proof Dina was responsible?"

 

[jillycat]

What if your wrong about Rebecca and she did kill Max? Would that change how you feel about Rebecca? Dina?

Since the only witnesses to either death are either dead themselves or not talking, I don't believe what happened will ever be known, no matter how many rulings or lawsuits.

But for those who believe Rebecca committed murder, then got a phone call and killed herself, I don't think we can have a Rebecca who wanted Max dead so she inflicted a lethal injury, and a Rebecca who then killed herself when discovering she was successful in her mission.

Nor do I think we can have, as some claim, a Rebecca who intentionally threw a child over a banister to kill him, and a Rebecca who then killed herself over a fear of child protection after she heard the child would die.

 

[Betty P]

Since the only witnesses to either death are either dead themselves or not talking, I don't believe what happened will ever be known, no matter how many rulings or lawsuits.

But for those who believe Rebecca committed murder, then got a phone call and killed herself, I don't think we can have a Rebecca who wanted Max dead so she inflicted a lethal injury, and a Rebecca who then killed herself when discovering she was successful in her mission.

Nor do I think we can have, as some claim, a Rebecca who intentionally threw a child over a banister to kill him, and a Rebecca who then killed herself over a fear of child protection after she heard the child would die.

Very true, the idea of a normally tranquil woman throwing her mate's child over a balcony, then later hanging herself, bound, gagged and in the nude is ludicrous on its face.

I also keep remembering that there is no evidence that the last contact Jonah made to RZ was a message about Max's pending death. No message was ever retrieved and a strange excuse was given for why SDSO failed to check it. All we have to go on is Jonah's word.

 

[Jessica2012]

My Heart Goes Out To Everyone Involved.
I would like to write that if I am wrong in what I believe, and I learned with absolute proof that Dina is responsible for Rebecca's death, I without a doubt think Dina should be held accountable and punished to the maximum.
BBL, I agree with you that no matter what happened, nothing would justify murdering Rebecca-even if it is proven with certainty that she intentionally hurt Max.

I have always felt sad for Rebecca's loved ones, especially her parents, because no matter what happened they were innocent. No human being should have to go through that type of pain, and it is unimaginable.
GOD BLESS EVERYONE INVOLVED.

 

[Cherry]

I suspect the brother as much as I do Dina. Hopeful civil suit brings out the truth.

 

[Jessica2012]

I suspect the brother as much as I do Dina. Hopeful civil suit brings out the truth.

I always believed he is innocent because hypothetically if Rebecca was murdered, why would he be so careful in leaving absolutely no proof of his presence during the murder but as a tugboat captain tie sailor knots that would point right at him? And I also believe he was innocent because through it all he never believed that Rebecca hurt Max.

 

[1&2&3]

Throughout the years since this suit was filed, we have heard of Dina's wrangling with ways to avoid answering questions or giving her deposition.

When does the judge say "enough is enough" and stop this playing games of stalling? It has to be quite obvious to him what she is doing.

And LuckyLucy I do not NEED or WANT a response from you!

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Me too. Still don't think it would justify murdering Rebecca. But if I found for certain that Rebecca had harmed Max ON Purpose, you'd can be damn sure that my opinion of Rebecca would change. And, yes, I too would have no problem admitting it.

I'm curious though SweetT, neither you nor LL2 answered Frigga's question. "If you are wrong about Rebecca and Dina is responsible for the murder of Rebecca- do you believe she should be held accountable? Would you feel sorrow for Rebecca's loved ones if you learned with absolute proof Dina was responsible?"

You state Rebecca was murdered, as if it were a fact. Please edit that to state that is just your opinion. To state it as fact, you need a link to back it up and since it was ruled a suicide, there are none.

Thanks.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Very true, the idea of a normally tranquil woman throwing her mate's child over a balcony, then later hanging herself, bound, gagged and in the nude is ludicrous on its face.

I also keep remembering that there is no evidence that the last contact Jonah made to RZ was a message about Max's pending death. No message was ever retrieved and a strange excuse was given for why SDSO failed to check it. All we have to go on is Jonah's word.

Sometimes people form an opinion before they know all the facts, and ten just can't accept that they were wrong.

Rebecca DID snap that night and she DID commit suicide. Her deleting Jonah's message doesn't change that fact.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

I always believed he is innocent because hypothetically if Rebecca was murdered, why would he be so careful in leaving absolutely no proof of his presence during the murder but as a tugboat captain tie sailor knots that would point right at him? I also believe he is innocent because through it all, he never believed that Rebecca hurt Max.

How do you know Adam believed Rebecca never hurt Max? He has never done any interviews. Do you know him? How did you come by this information, or is that your opinion?

That's why I think he has not been trashed here, the way Dina has - the Zahau followers simply don't know anything about him to trash him. They only know he is the Captian of a Tugboat on the Missisippi River and has no criminal record. Sounds like a very responsible person to me.

The knots were not complicated. The knots were simple SLIP knots and loops according to LE which saw the knots and loops up close and determined it was a suicide.

And IIRC, one hand had 7 loops, one had 5, and one ankle had 3 loops and one had 4. Hardly the type of thing a boating expert would tie.

If Rebecca could tie her shoes, she could have- and DID- tie those knots.

 

[LuckyLucy2]

Throughout the years since this suit was filed, we have heard of Dina's wrangling with ways to avoid answering questions or giving her deposition.

When does the judge say "enough is enough" and stop this playing games of stalling? It has to be quite obvious to him what she is doing.

And LuckyLucy I do not NEED or WANT a response from you!

You state that Dina is "wrangling with ways to avoid answering questions or from giving her deposition." Do you have a link to prove that? If not, it must be stated as opinion.


Dina cannot give her deposition until Mary Zahau answers the interrogatories that Dina submitted to her, so she knows the specifics of Mary's accusations. There is a hearing on that coming up and the Judge will rule on it.

Why is Mary refusing to answer Dina's questions? Hint: It's because she can't. Their story is all made up from Internet rumors.

I don't think we get to choose who or who doesn't answer our posts. If there is a rule for that, and I an wrong, please post the rule.

Thanks.

 

[Jessica2012]

How do you know Adam believed Rebecca never hurt Max? He has never done any interviews. Do you know him? How did you come by this information, or is that your opinion?

That's why I think he has not been trashed here, the way Dina has - the Zahau followers simply don't know anything about him to trash him. They only know he is the Captian of a Tugboat on the Missisippi River and has no criminal record. Sounds like a very responsible person to me.

The knots were not complicated. The knots were simple SLIP knots and loops according to LE which saw the knots and loops up close and determined it was a suicide.

And IIRC, one hand had 7 loops, one had 5, and one ankle had 3 loops and one had 4. Hardly the type of thing a boating expert would tie.

If Rebecca could tie her shoes, she could have- and DID- tie those knots.

LuckyLucy2, to be honest with you, I am from his hometown, and one of his closest friends has always been like a big sister to me. She spoke to him right after everything happened and throughout until now. He never from day one believed Rebecca harmed Max. Based on this, it is my opinion that Adam does not believe that Rebecca harmed Max.
So take it or leave it I guess

 

[*Lash*]

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I find accusing INNOCENT people, who are mourning the death of a child- because of Rebecca Zahau- of a horrible and sadistic murder just to make $10 Million DOLLARS utterly DESPICABLE. The LOWEST the LOW.

And don't be confused- it IS all about the MONEY.

That is why the Zahaus had so little support in their last fundraising attempt...the public is not STUPID.

JMO

It is not all about the money. My opinions and beliefs have zero to do with money. I will not gain a penny, dime or dollar regardless of the outcome. I do not personally know the Zahau family, nor did I know Rebecca. I follow and post about this case because I believe Rebecca's investigation at the least was flawed. I believe confirmation bias played a role in the suicide ruling. I'm still here 4 years later with no money to gain or lose.

I think we all know a dollar amount is required to file a WDS. IIRC, there was discussion regarding the dollar amount meeting a specific criteria for court. Maybe AZlawyer could opine on the dollar amount required?

 

[kittychi]

I always believed he is innocent because hypothetically if Rebecca was murdered, why would he be so careful in leaving absolutely no proof of his presence during the murder but as a tugboat captain tie sailor knots that would point right at him? And I also believe he was innocent because through it all he never believed that Rebecca hurt Max.

I have a feeling that AS is not as bright as his brother and wouldn't necessarily think of that. JMO