WV WV - Aliayah Lunsford, 3, Lewis Co., 24 Sep 2011 - #11

[KinderedSpirits]

Wow, I hadn't even heard about the Broken Wheel campground...thanks for this info. So, based on what everyone is saying, this was one of the first places LE searched? Does anyone know how long it takes to drive to the Vadis (spelling) area from their house? This was also a place they searched early on, and did seem a bit secluded. Any thoughts?

Also, did anyone other than RL and LL (and the other kids) confirm that they had seen Aliayah the days surrounding her disappearance? It was said that she was supposed to be spending the night at someone's house the night before, but got sick and came back home. If that is true (which I have my doubts), have the other people, whom she was supposedly visiting, been questioned? Do we even know whose house it was? I guess the point I am trying to make is, could they have possibly been covering for RL and LL in any way?? Or perhaps, that was all a made up story?

I'm just wondering if the reason LE is having a hard to finding her, is because maybe she had been missing days before it was reported. From what I have been reading, RL knows his way around "the system" very well. Also, there is a video on You Tube where the neighbor, who lives across the street, mentions that he never saw anyone outside looking for Aliayah (or anything else) on that specific day....and he was outside most of the day. Just my :twocents:
Obviously, this is all MOO, and respect what everyone else thinks...just glad to see people care about little Aliayah!

 

[KinderedSpirits]

Yes, the Broken Wheel Campground Search. It was made very early on after Aliahya was reported missing. That has always bothered me. I want to know what prompted that particular search.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...&ll=39.009047,-80.553818&spn=0.290787,0.41748

The campground is shown on the linked map. You can see where it is in relation to the home and other search areas. Other early search areas shown also.

Thanks for posting this map...very helpful!

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

Why search a campground? Dogs tracked her scent to the river. That seems to be a fact that most everyone forgets. The campground search happened early in the search, maybe with the first 48 hours. What do they know that they aren't telling the general public?

I wonder WHO else was tracked to the river. IF luminol was used in the house? Did the dogs search the house-make any "hits" there? I have to believe that LE knows LOTS more than they are (not) saying!

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

10/29/2011
1903 Vadis Road-Ralph Lunsford was arrested here in 2009 on charges of unlawful assault. They are searching this area because of “valuable tips” from the community. Killeen claims they are still focusing around the home where Aliayah disappeared.

11/02/ 2011 –Lena Lunsford indicted on FEDERAL charges.

Who lives at 1903 Vadis Road? –And I have to believe the same person that offered the tip about Vadis, helped with this food stamp charges!!

 

[KinderedSpirits]

10/29/2011
1903 Vadis Road-Ralph Lunsford was arrested here in 2009 on charges of unlawful assault. They are searching this area because of “valuable tips” from the community. Killeen claims they are still focusing around the home where Aliayah disappeared.

11/02/ 2011 –Lena Lunsford indicted on FEDERAL charges.

Who lives at 1903 Vadis Road? –And I have to believe the same person that offered the tip about Vadis, helped with this food stamp charges!!

From what I understood RL either owned the property or lived there at some point...but again, this was what I gathered from the way it was reported in Miami. There was some talk about this on Facebook, which really raised my suspicion, as well. I think in one of the previous threads, someone asked a question about what they read on Facebook, regarding the Vadis property, and Vickie answered it. I don't know if it's against TOS regulations for me to bring the disussion up, because I don't know if anything was confirmed. Regardless, I'm sure LE had a good reason for focusing on the Vadis area, and the campground.

 

[Jezbel]

I refuse to watch this case go cold!!! Can we please at least ignite some sort of discussion here. We need to continue fighting for Aliayah. Have there been any RL or LL sightings lately? You'd think after NG covered the case, we'd hear something....anything!?!? :sigh:

There have been numerous sightings of LL & RL all over town!! Mostly out shopping - Wal-Mart, Kroeger, Dollar Store etc. By the sounds of it no one has really gone up to her and said or asked anything. She is also most always spotted at DHHR with RL when visiting the other children. It appears to everyone who sees them that they have forgotten Aliayah and going about their daily business.

I have heard that Aliayah's story will be featured on AMW, which must mean the LE and or FBI will be speaking with them. This is great news.

Has anybody seen or heard anything of the command unit?

Someone mentioned something about her time driving around town 'searching'
I think LE must have got that time frame from all the hours of surveillance they have viewed. I am curious to know as to what they saw on the tapes, as FBI stated they have viewed hours of surveillance and asked for more from the public.

I hope there is a break soon or somebody comes forward, my heart breaks a little more each day for Aliayah.

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

There have been numerous sightings of LL & RL all over town!! Mostly out shopping - Wal-Mart, Kroeger, Dollar Store etc. By the sounds of it no one has really gone up to her and said or asked anything. She is also most always spotted at DHHR with RL when visiting the other children. It appears to everyone who sees them that they have forgotten Aliayah and going about their daily business.

I have heard that Aliayah's story will be featured on AMW, which must mean the LE and or FBI will be speaking with them. This is great news.

Has anybody seen or heard anything of the command unit?

Someone mentioned something about her time driving around town 'searching'
I think LE must have got that time frame from all the hours of surveillance they have viewed. I am curious to know as to what they saw on the tapes, as FBI stated they have viewed hours of surveillance and asked for more from the public.

I hope there is a break soon or somebody comes forward, my heart breaks a little more each day for Aliayah.

Wow-shopping , interesting?!!?! I wonder how they are affording to "shop." Obviously, she isn't drawing a check for her children, because they ARE (finally) being taken care of by responsible adults. Does that mean Lena Lunsford is back to her old "tricks"??! *wink wink**

 

[Knox]

That was my first thought too Cmajor, how are they buying anything? Is Ralph back to work?

Beyond bizarre that one's child disappears and Mom acts like nothing ever happened. Visit's the other children, but not a word about Aliayah? How does Lena even live in her own head?

 

[MarthaM]

What exactly is LL supposed to say? And who is she supposed to be saying it to? IMO, no family member of any missing child or adult should have to say anything to anyone if they don't want to. And they certainly are free to shop if the want to--everyone does, and people do need to go to the store. And it's none of my business how LL or anyone else pays for what they buy; I'm not interested in prying into anybody's finances or trying to figure out where they got the money to pay for a loaf of bread or a pair of socks.

After almost 3 months, I still don't have an opinion about what happened to Aliayah. Someone knows something, but I don't know if that's LL or RL or both of them or neither of them. I have heard nothing that points me toward anyone in particular. The 'food stamp sale' thing tells me zip; many many people do that very same thing (and often get away with it) and that could have nothing whatsoever to do with Aliayah's disappearance.

I hope someone comes forward soon with information that leads LE to Aliayah. If someone knows something they probably would have reported it by now, but there's always the chance that the perpetrator(s) will slip and say something to somebody that provides the clue LE needs. Every once in a while there's a case in which I think the saying about catching more bees with honey than vinegar is true, and I this is one of those cases.

 

[Janeumayer]

Yes, the Broken Wheel Campground Search. It was made very early on after Aliahya was reported missing. That has always bothered me. I want to know what prompted that particular search.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid...&ll=39.009047,-80.553818&spn=0.290787,0.41748

The campground is shown on the linked map. You can see where it is in relation to the home and other search areas. Other early search areas shown also.

On the campground's website it says they have a country store. Didn't Lena stop there the morning Aliayah disappeared?

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

They may be waiting for the tests on the bath salts to see if they are illegal. Then RL may be arrested. Those bath salts must be a nightmare for LE. They don't know what is legal and what isn't until it's tested.

They are a nightmare. A lot of people do crazy, violent things under the influence of bath salts. These compounds are bad news for the brain.

 

[Knox]

Decorating Trees for Aliayah

Folks all across the country are organizing Christmas celebrations to keep the word of missing 3-year-old Aliayah Lunsford out in the public.

Desiree Matheny, of Doddridge County, decorated her home with a light up sign for Aliayah. Others are putting purple ribbons on their trees in honor of her favorite color.

Next Thursday, you're invited to bring ornaments with your name and the year on them to decorate Christmas trees in Clarksburg and Weston for Aliayah.

http://wdtv.com/index.php/home/local-news/10947-decorating-trees-for-aliayah-?fontstyle=f-smaller

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

What exactly is LL supposed to say? And who is she supposed to be saying it to? IMO, no family member of any missing child or adult should have to say anything to anyone if they don't want to. And they certainly are free to shop if the want to--everyone does, and people do need to go to the store. And it's none of my business how LL or anyone else pays for what they buy; I'm not interested in prying into anybody's finances or trying to figure out where they got the money to pay for a loaf of bread or a pair of socks.

After almost 3 months, I still don't have an opinion about what happened to Aliayah. Someone knows something, but I don't know if that's LL or RL or both of them or neither of them. I have heard nothing that points me toward anyone in particular. The 'food stamp sale' thing tells me zip; many many people do that very same thing (and often get away with it) and that could have nothing whatsoever to do with Aliayah's disappearance.

I hope someone comes forward soon with information that leads LE to Aliayah. If someone knows something they probably would have reported it by now, but there's always the chance that the perpetrator(s) will slip and say something to somebody that provides the clue LE needs. Every once in a while there's a case in which I think the saying about catching more bees with honey than vinegar is true, and I this is one of those cases.

I respectfully disagree. When a person like Lena Lunsford has babies more often than a dog does, and then instead of working to support those children, she depends on the GOVERNMENT to house, feed and clothe, not only them, but her sorry butt, then she SHOULD have to speak to "someone" about what happened to her missing daughter. AND instead of USING those "benefits" on her "children", she chooses to SELL them ..I guess that is ok with you too? Sorry-doesn't fly with me.
Lena Lunsford knew exactly WHAT she was going to buy with the money she got from those food stamps, just like she KNEW exactly why Ralph Lunsford was going to the "head shop" and just like she knows what happened to Aliayah.
I am a firm believer in Karma, and I am waiting for it to catch Lena Lunsford. I am also thankful that her little ones are FINALLY in the hands of responsible adults, who will love and support THEM -not their own addictions. JMO

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

That was my first thought too Cmajor, how are they buying anything? Is Ralph back to work?

Beyond bizarre that one's child disappears and Mom acts like nothing ever happened. Visit's the other children, but not a word about Aliayah? How does Lena even live in her own head?

I wonder who in their right mind would hire either one of them? Seriously, they can't even make sure their children are safe-who would trust them in business?

Why does she bother visiting them? LE will see to it that she or her "grieving" mom won't ever have their hands on them again. And if by chance they do-they would have to actually work to "support" them. And I don't think Lena Lunsford will be free long enough to work. I see her gettin a NEW home, paid for by our Federal Government...

 

[MarthaM]

I respectfully disagree. When a person like Lena Lunsford has babies more often than a dog does, and then instead of working to support those children, she depends on the GOVERNMENT to house, feed and clothe, not only them, but her sorry butt, then she SHOULD have to speak to "someone" about what happened to her missing daughter. AND instead of USING those "benefits" on her "children", she chooses to SELL them ..I guess that is ok with you too? Sorry-doesn't fly with me.

Please don't characterize my post that way. I did not say, nor do I think, that any type of fraud related to government benefits is 'okay with me'.

What I have said and will continue to say is that the sale of benefits is a separate issue (and a huge distraction, IMO) that tells me nothing about what happened to Aliayah.

And I think that the number of children LL has is another side issue that isn't relevant. If she had two kids, would it make a difference? No. Besides... many people have 5 or 6 or 8 or 10 children, and I don't think that referring to those with a large family as 'having babies more often than a dog does' serves any useful purpose.

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

Please don't characterize my post that way. I did not say, nor do I think, that any type of fraud related to government benefits is 'okay with me'.

What I have said and will continue to say is that the sale of benefits is a separate issue (and a huge distraction, IMO) that tells me nothing about what happened to Aliayah.

And I think that the number of children LL has is another side issue that isn't relevant. If she had two kids, would it make a difference? No. Besides... many people have 5 or 6 or 8 or 10 children, and I don't think that referring to those with a large family as 'having babies more often than a dog does' serves any useful purpose.

I suppose we just don't understand each other, and thats ok. We are both here for the right reasons. Again -I apologize..
And please don't believe that I think everyone that has a huge family is like a "dog"...I have a very large family-the difference is -WE were cared for, WE were raised. IF one of us was late for dinner-my parents would FIND us-..IF we were late coming home from a night out , they stayed UP until we got home. And when we DID get home-they made us wish we were home on time ...:blushing:
And while in most missing childrens cases family finances aren't important-when you have a "family" like Aliayah's, where they chose to take their children's benefits and SELL them...how did these children EAT? While the selling of the benefits IS a separate issue-it also goes right back to WHY did Aliayah vanish?
The bath salts, while also a separate issue , also leads right back to what happened in that house. I have never heard of a woman pregnant with twins wanting to surround herself (or her children) for that matter, with a "man" hopped up on salts, who is sex-craved one minute and violent the next.
And what hurts me the most...I have never heard of a family-a mother, a step-father, a grandma, who CLAIM they love a child not speak out or search for the missing three year old. And then when a family member DOES speak out, they ridicule her?
I just want to know the truth about what happened to little Aliayah, and the last known person "supposedly" to see her alive was Lena Lunsford, and she should speak the truth. jmo

 

[Jezbel]

That was my first thought too Cmajor, how are they buying anything? Is Ralph back to work?

Beyond bizarre that one's child disappears and Mom acts like nothing ever happened. Visit's the other children, but not a word about Aliayah? How does Lena even live in her own head?

I don't thinl Ralph has ben back to work at Stonewall or any other place since the day Aliayah went missing.

I don't think Lena is right in the head, she lives in her own little world up thereM remember the stories from Vickie about her violent outbursts and tantrums, well I don't know any grown adults who do that.

 

[imamaze]

I don't thinl Ralph has ben back to work at Stonewall or any other place since the day Aliayah went missing.

I don't think Lena is right in the head, she lives in her own little world up thereM remember the stories from Vickie about her violent outbursts and tantrums, well I don't know any grown adults who do that.

Hi Jezbel,

Where did Vickie say this at?

Ima

 

[Knox]

I respectfully disagree. When a person like Lena Lunsford has babies more often than a dog does, and then instead of working to support those children, she depends on the GOVERNMENT to house, feed and clothe, not only them, but her sorry butt, then she SHOULD have to speak to "someone" about what happened to her missing daughter. AND instead of USING those "benefits" on her "children", she chooses to SELL them ..I guess that is ok with you too? Sorry-doesn't fly with me.
Lena Lunsford knew exactly WHAT she was going to buy with the money she got from those food stamps, just like she KNEW exactly why Ralph Lunsford was going to the "head shop" and just like she knows what happened to Aliayah.
I am a firm believer in Karma, and I am waiting for it to catch Lena Lunsford. I am also thankful that her little ones are FINALLY in the hands of responsible adults, who will love and support THEM -not their own addictions. JMO

I agree Cmajor. When a person of Lena's character misuses welfare monies, I think we have a right to wonder. I'm all for helping people when the need arises, especially those with children. What bothers me, are those who seem to treat public aid like an entitlement. I have always been a working Mom. In California, it's difficult to make ends meet without two working parents.

I'm growing weary of waiting for something to happen in this case. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that either Lena or Ralph (or both) know what happened to Aliayah. Just very discouraging to see these children disappear and their parents create some flimsy, ridiculous story. :furious:

 

[Jezbel]

Hi Jezbel,

Where did Vickie say this at?

Ima

I am pretty sure its in one of the previous threads not long after she started posting.she had mentioned how Lena has thrown tantrums before. I am on my phone so can't really browse back through them easily.