WV WV - Aliayah Lunsford, 3, Lewis Co., 24 Sep 2011 - #12

[Paulette]

Looking for Aliayah's bio father

Legal ad in the newspaper notifying her father that it has filed a petition, stating that Aliayah Lunsford is an abused and neglected child.

The ad also said: the DHHR has permanent custody of Aliayah and her brothers and sisters.http://www.wboy.com/story/16499781/...s-office-looking-for-aliayah-lunsfords-father

My, my, my... does that mean what I think it means? If DHHR has permanent custody, then they can terminate all parental rights to all the children of RL & LL. Is this the reason for the ad?

That would be the best thing WV could ever do for the kids. Please say it's true. I'd hate to think of the kids being in foster care forever. Give them a chance to escape their fate with LL & RL, which wouldn't be good.

As a kid, I would have died a thousand deaths just knowing my parents were criminals, but to have to face the other kids would have been beyond endurable.

 

[MountainLover]

Interesting development-not sure about the immediate implication for sweet Aliayah but at least there is movement to get the rest of the kids away from the bad influences of LL/RL.

 

[gitana1]

My, my, my... does that mean what I think it means? If DHHR has permanent custody, then they can terminate all parental rights to all the children of RL & LL. Is this the reason for the ad?

That would be the best thing WV could ever do for the kids. Please say it's true. I'd hate to think of the kids being in foster care forever. Give them a chance to escape their fate with LL & RL, which wouldn't be good.

As a kid, I would have died a thousand deaths just knowing my parents were criminals, but to have to face the other kids would have been beyond endurable.

I frankly don't know what this means. Except possibly the state can do certain things (what those are, I can't think right now), that they could NOT do if Lena maintained parental rights.

Maybe it is just an investigative tool to flesh out the dad and determine whether he has the child or knows anything.

But "permanent" custody (as to Aliayah's siblings) does not mean that Lena's parental rights have been terminated. That takes a long time. Instead, it should mean that a noticed hearing was held and at that hearing, permanent orders (rather than temporary, or emergency orders) were issued creating a long term plan for the kids.

Lena could still get them back if she did everything the court asked. I doubt she will, though. Seems this woman cares only about collecting benefits for her kids, not about the kids themselves. I can't see her going through hoops to get them back.

It appears she likely has some major drug issues (why else sell benefits?). If she is pregnant, I hope they take that baby as well and fast. I'm sure the husband/boyfriend isn't better.

I'm surprised one of them hasn't rolled over on the other. That tells me they were both involved in whatever happened to Aliayah.

 

[tlcya]

I am wondering if the filing for "permanent" custody has to do with gaining court ordered authority to request medical records and official records regarding Aliayah and her medical care and treatment. Could this be needed by DFC to obtain more documentation about the abuse they suspect and be useful as a tool to gain more evidence that could then be used in filing criminal charges against Lena and/or Ralph for abuse/neglect of Aliayah?

DFC has gained custody of the siblings acfter Aliayah was missing. I wonder if that would mean that legally, DFC has no authority in regards to Aliayah unless they assert abuse/neglect of her.

I don't know, this is a puzzling move and if Gitana, my go-to resource, doesn't have the answer, I am sure not likely to figure it out.

 

[KinderedSpirits]

Thinking of you, baby girl....:heartbeat:

 

[RT51]

I have nothing to add except it breaks my heart everytime I see her pictures. She just looks so sad. I see the same thing with Sky. If they are both gone, I hope they are playing together in sunshine!

 

[imamaze]

Authorities trying to identify Aliayah Lunsford's genetic father
The Lewis County Prosecuting Attorney's Office is looking for Aliayah Lunsford's genetic father.
More...

 

[Knox]

If this was already discussed, I apologize.

How does the LCPA's Office know Aliayah was an abused and neglected child? Have they reviewed her medical records? Going by statements made by her siblings? Prior reports of neglect investigated and on the record with CPS? I guess these types of records are confidential, so we won't hear on what basis they are making that statement?

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

Aliayah, I have been thinking 'bout you this week!!! Its been snowing, and I was just thinking how much fun we could have in it!! I hope that wherever you are , that you know how much you are loved.

 

[Westinlund]

http://www.wdtv.com/index.php/home/local-news/11609-manchin-talks-aliayah-community-members-outraged-by-website-picture

I went to the website for the National Center for Exploited and Missing Children and found that they had photo-shopped the latest picture and removed the bruise. When I went to the FBI's website, the picture was completely removed.

The entire community feels that LE has just packed up and moved on, which is what LL wants for her and her husband.

 

[ClaireNC]

http://www.wdtv.com/index.php/home/local-news/11609-manchin-talks-aliayah-community-members-outraged-by-website-picture

I went to the website for the National Center for Exploited and Missing Children and found that they had photo-shopped the latest picture and removed the bruise. When I went to the FBI's website, the picture was completely removed.

The entire community feels that LE has just packed up and moved on, which is what LL wants for her and her husband.

Why would they do that? There is something odd going on.

 

[Kimbreeley]

Thinking about you, little Aliayah, always.....

 

[MarthaM]

Why would they do that? There is something odd going on.

Just guessing here, but maybe the Center has gotten some information that she might still be alive? And if that's the case, they might want to have a picture out there that shows her more as she might look today. That way people would be able to better recognize her.

I'm sure the FBI had a good reason for removing the picture, if they did remove it. I don't think I ever went to their site in connection with this case, so I didn't see it there myself, but I believe others who say they saw it there and it's gone now.

Edited to add: Or maybe the original photo with the dark bruise is the one that had been photoshopped? Meaning that the 'bruise', if it existed, wasn't that dark or something. And the current one is more accurate, or the true 'original'?

Hard to say.

 

[Mjskit]

I am wondering if the filing for "permanent" custody has to do with gaining court ordered authority to request medical records and official records regarding Aliayah and her medical care and treatment. Could this be needed by DFC to obtain more documentation about the abuse they suspect and be useful as a tool to gain more evidence that could then be used in filing criminal charges against Lena and/or Ralph for abuse/neglect of Aliayah?

DFC has gained custody of the siblings acfter Aliayah was missing. I wonder if that would mean that legally, DFC has no authority in regards to Aliayah unless they assert abuse/neglect of her.

I don't know, this is a puzzling move and if Gitana, my go-to resource, doesn't have the answer, I am sure not likely to figure it out.

I believe that is what this is about. The order removing the children probably gave DHHR the right to remove all children in the home as of that date. Aliayah was not there so the Order wouldn't cover her. Now this new Petition is only for Aliayah. Did you notice that Aliayah will be given an attorney to represent her? Of course so will Lena and the father, but now Aliayah will have what was needed since September 24, 2011.

DHHR does not need to convince a jury that Aliayah was abused unless criminal charges are brought for that abuse. In this new proceeding DHHR will alledge child abuse, the parents will plead guilty or not guilty, and the Judge will decide what happens next.

 

[mahoolin]

http://www.wdtv.com/index.php/home/local-news/11609-manchin-talks-aliayah-community-members-outraged-by-website-picture

I went to the website for the National Center for Exploited and Missing Children and found that they had photo-shopped the latest picture and removed the bruise. When I went to the FBI's website, the picture was completely removed.

The entire community feels that LE has just packed up and moved on, which is what LL wants for her and her husband.

BBM
Couldn't sleep, so decided to log on and see what was happening...
Out of curiosity, decided to check the two sites above - original pic (not the one with the bruise) is back on both sites now?? :waitasec:

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

No. I just checked NCMEC. The poster is the same, no bruising on her cheek.
(I don't see that it makes a big difference in finding/not finding Aliayah)

Case archive:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Aliayah%20Lunsford%20%20-WV-/

ETA: The first poster NCMEC had on the website showed only the old Christmas picture, the first one we ever saw of Aliayah.

First poster on the site:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/...d -WV-/?action=view&current=NCMEC-poster.jpg

Current poster:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/... -WV-/?action=view&current=NCMEC-Jan2012.jpg

Quite possibly, there was no bruise in the NCMEC. Maybe it was just on the WV-fusion poster?
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/...tion=view&current=111411aliayah-newposter.jpg

 

[CJMAJORGIRL24]

http://www.wdtv.com/index.php/home/local-news/11609-manchin-talks-aliayah-community-members-outraged-by-website-picture

I went to the website for the National Center for Exploited and Missing Children and found that they had photo-shopped the latest picture and removed the bruise. When I went to the FBI's website, the picture was completely removed.

The entire community feels that LE has just packed up and moved on, which is what LL wants for her and her husband.

I can feel your pain, Westinlund. I know how much of yourself you have offered to Aliayah. I have thought alot about Aliayah today. And how strange this case really is. Many things bother me about this case.. the FBI leaving is terrible-OR have they "really" left. Sometimes just because we don't "see" them, doesn't mean they aren't there. (LENA-HOPE YOU ARE READIN THIS)

The ad in the paper about Aliayah's Daddy is strange, but it does tell us THREE things. They don't know WHO he is (and he isnt who Lena Lunsford claimed-she never tells the truth-) . And that the state is going to have PERMANENT custody of EVERY SINGLE GIFT GOD GAVE to Lena Lunsford! YAY! And they want to give him a chance to step up and say i AM her daddy-before its too late.

The altering of the picture is strange also-BUT-LOOK who gave the pictures to LE-and WHY would the ONLY pics they offered were those of a beautiful angel with bruises on her face? The BRUISES and the missing teeth is what people would remember about those pictures. Maybe thats what Lena Lunsford wanted?

I DO believe that Ralph Lunsford was either directly involved or has intimate knowledge of the two missing women. I think that Lena Lunsford also knows. I have always felt, that if Aliayah is in heaven, and her body is found, those women's bodies will be nearby. These two in my eyes are evil. And it hurts to try to get into their "heads."
But i DO think that the FBI has a profiler on this case-and I still have faith in them...

Remember it is always darkest before dawn.

JMHO

 

[mahoolin]

No. I just checked NCMEC. The poster is the same, no bruising on her cheek.
(I don't see that it makes a big difference in finding/not finding Aliayah)

Case archive:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Aliayah%20Lunsford%20%20-WV-/

ETA: The first poster NCMEC had on the website showed only the old Christmas picture, the first one we ever saw of Aliayah.

First poster on the site:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/...d -WV-/?action=view&current=NCMEC-poster.jpg

Current poster:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/... -WV-/?action=view&current=NCMEC-Jan2012.jpg

Quite possibly, there was no bruise in the NCMEC. Maybe it was just on the WV-fusion poster?
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/...tion=view&current=111411aliayah-newposter.jpg

BBM
- we're both right about NCMEC pics - I didn't click on the "view poster" link - just looked at the pic showed under the results which was the old/first one. Thanks for keeping us straight! It was late/early when I posted...
- but I still think it's odd about the bruise not there any more on the other? Someone's doctored the pic somewhere along the way... :waitasec:

 

[mahoolin]

:bump:bumpity bumpity for Aliayah

 

[Kimbreeley]

Still praying for you every day, little one!!!!