WV WV - Aliayah Lunsford, 3, Lewis Co., 24 Sep 2011 - # 6

[Sharedspirit]

I apologize for the misinterpretation of the rules, but this case is different from most cases. I am one of the locals here in Lewis county, and have still not been verified. Even though my posts are visible, I would feel much better if someone would contact me to verify.

LE has been totally close-lipped when it comes to this case. The media has not done any real "footwork" on this case, save for getting a copy of the 911 tape.

In my opinion, the entire extended family in being considered POIs. We had already known about the bio dad and only posted the booking photos after it was confirmed on the 911 tape.

I posted other information from scanner communications last night to this page rather than to the scanner forum as I had no access to the live scanner, relying on other locals who have scanners. I stopped posting information on that incident until such time as MSM or other verifiable information comes forward.

My and my wife's only goal is to help find Aliayah.

I think you and your wife are pretty special! Thanks so much for what you are doing to help find Aliayah.

 

[kljohnson0458]

I'm not sure. I don't even know for sure if he lives there but that's what I've been reading here. That she got up to see him off. Maybe he just spent the night?

That was my thought as well Gitana. Honestly after all the griping I've done, she sounds mostly credible in this call. Maybe it wasn't irregular for G-ma to show up and help her out with the baby but like she said, you'd think she'd have woken her before leaving with Baby A. This is just a call, a recorded one at that, but she sounds credibly upset to me. We'll wait and see. JMO

 

[Paulette]

This kidnapper sure did get lucky. The SF wasn't home, the older kids were in bed with mom, and the 5 year old (who would surely tell the truth) was visiting his dad.

That leaves Aliayah alone in a room.

Wouldn't you call that a perfect storm? All the so-called random events just happen to have occurred at a precise time to allow this "kidnapping".

And then there is the last piece of the puzzle - how did the kidnapper get in? The doors were locked.

What are the odds?

 

[Darcyline]

She does sound credibly upset, but I still cannot get over the random 2 hours of driving "up streets" and then not calling her Mom at any point.

 

[gitana1]

Didn't go through the whole call but 2 things stood out right away. She starts out with "My baby's missing".


And she never asked for help. She never said "Get the police here right away" or "Find my baby".

While she sounded urgent she didn't demand help. At least that is how it seemed to me. Remember Cindy's call to 911? "You've got to find her now!"

Yeah, she does ask, "please help me find her" or something to that effect but it's almost at the end. But how else is she supposed to say that her kid is missing? If she had said, "There's a child here that's missing." That would be weird. I think most people when calling to report their kid missing have to say, "My child is missing."

 

[Melanie]

Thank you so much for transcribing that mrsu.

THANK YOU mrsu!

Why does this bother me?

it's a girl
it's a girl and this morning real early i went in to check on her cause she's been sick with the flu

Why is she referring to baby A as an "IT"?

I know I'm being overly critical and I apologize.

MOO

Mel

 

[kljohnson0458]

She does sound credibly upset, but I still cannot get over the random 2 hours of driving "up streets" and then not calling her Mom at any point.

Oh yea, that could never be explained to me at all. She is visibly upset in the call but is it REALLY over her daughter or something else. Just making an observation into how she sounded in the call. The truth will come out.

 

[kljohnson0458]

THANK YOU mrsu!

Why does this bother me?

it's a girl
it's a girl and this morning real early i went in to check on her cause she's been sick with the flu

Why is she referring to baby A as an "IT"?

I know I'm being overly critical and I apologize.

MOO

Mel

I know she should have said she is a girl but the 911 dispatcher kept saying "he." She (LL)was correcting her. And it might just be a language thing.

 

[mrsu]

I will admit I initially was VERY suspicious of the mother. I still am, but she does seem sincere to me in the call, and I did feel a little guilty for my original assumptions.

However, that being said, there are a number of things I am still completely perplexed on:

- why the driving around...for hours?
- and running out of gas? especially if she is on camera at a gas station as it's been speculated.
- why no info about the step dad?
- why no pleas or press conferences from the mother/family?
- why would a sick child wander off?
- she says she thinks the doors were locked. Well, the stepdad would have left for work fairly recently...were the doors locked after he left or not? Seems like it would be fairly easy to remember as she would have been the one to lock them after he left since all the other kids were sleeping.

Based on the 911 call, I'm not so sure the mother thought she was kidnapped? She does mention driving around looking for her because she thought she may have wandered off. Is that the truth or the story she decided to go with? Ugh.

 

[Sharedspirit]

I think in the first call when the operator asks when the last time she saw her was...Lena says early this morning and she had the flu. I think she then probably gives some more details about what happened but they are edited from the call for whatever reason. It is right after then that the operator says, so you last saw her at 6:30am. I don't think an operator would just throw out a time. MOO

I hope you are correct. I think it's an important piece of information.

 

[tlcya]

I hope you are correct. I think it's an important piece of information.

in a case where real information is hard to come by.

 

[Mustang Sally]

In the first call I'm not sure if the operator asks who lives in the residence or who was there when she went missing? If that's the case, maybe SD was already at work so he would have not been there.

In the second call, the operator asks about any other adults. Lena does start to say, ...the only other adult...but it also appears the call was edited at that point. I'm guessing that she does mention the SD here, but it's been edited.

Maybe she is getting assistance as a single mom and she does not want to claim that SD is living with them.

IIRC Hailey Dunn's father Clint and gf Naomi got evicted from their HUD housing because it was reported in MSM that CD was living with her and 6 yo son and CD's baby.

Dear God...Please bring little Angel Aliayah HOME!

 

[Paulette]

I'm not giving her any points for her 911 call. If you remember Susan Smith and all her crying and carrying on - it was all a lie. She was crying (IMO) because the reality of what she'd done had set in - she was cying over her irretrievable loss that she caused and the consequences that she'd have to face.

I think we can all relate to something we've done in childhood, that we didn't think was very important. Then later, when caught, and the adults were flabbergasted that we'd done this evil deed. BAM - the hammer came down & we got it. That's called developing a conscience. I think that's what happened here.

 

[Sharedspirit]

THANK YOU mrsu!

Why does this bother me?

it's a girl
it's a girl and this morning real early i went in to check on her cause she's been sick with the flu

Why is she referring to baby A as an "IT"?

I know I'm being overly critical and I apologize.

MOO

Mel

It's like those balloons & stuff they sell at the hospital gift shops. Always "It's a girl, or It's a boy". Drives me nuts! I hear it all the time.

 

[mrsu]

THANK YOU mrsu!

Why does this bother me?

it's a girl
it's a girl and this morning real early i went in to check on her cause she's been sick with the flu

Why is she referring to baby A as an "IT"?

I know I'm being overly critical and I apologize.

MOO

Mel

I don't know, I don't put too much weight in that. Directly before she says that the operator refers to the child as "him". I think she was just saying, "no, it's a girl, not a boy that's missing". Grammatically she should have probably said, "she's a girl", but even after that the operator asks "is it a boy or girl?". I think she then responds with "it" because that's what the operator asked.

 

[lynnb]

I hope that 911 call was heavily edited because not once is the name Aliayah even mentioned.

 

[Mjskit]

I hope that 911 call was heavily edited because not once is the name Aliayah even mentioned.

Yes, I found it strange the 911 operator didn't ask for the child's name.

 

[wenc]

How long has he lived there? If he's a more recent addition, it's possible she initially forgot in her panic. Not sure I agree with this, but just throwing an idea out there.

I would like to know that too, plus if they are legally married, if so, when they were married. Was she married to another Lunsford previously or anyone else for that matter?

It is possible, she could not want to divulge that info simply because, as someone mentioned earlier, maybe he was not allowed around the children or even her, which is possible considering his prior history, or they do not want anyone to know he lives there so they do not have to report his income and can get more in the way of assistance and benefits. Income determines the amount of WIC and food stamps you receive. Some people sell their food stamps, so more is better. She might get welfare if she is a single mom with several kids, but add any household income and she's going to get less.

Does the bio dad really not know she's his child. Maybe if he or she was incarcerated throughout the pregnancy, but I would think that if they had mutual acquaintances, someone would mention to him that she was pregnant and assuming he can count to 9, he could figure it out.

 

[liltexans]

If the bio dad didn't know he is Aliayah's dad before, I'm guessing he knows now.

 

[Jayarre]

Also mom states she drove around for over an hour. When did it change to 2 hours.