WV WV - Aliayah Lunsford, 3, Lewis Co., 24 Sep 2011 - # 6

[redfish]

OK I wasn't gonna do this.....but I can't resist seeing my reasoning in black and white.
LOL

She does sound distraught. But she does seem to be choosing her words IMO. Most of us would be struggling for coherent statements not choosing words or following a script.

She claims to have searched B, for an hour, up the street. But she never looks down near the water, or call for the child, or at least send the other children looking and calling... NO LOOKING where a 3 year old might possibly gone on her own. This is quite the opposite of someone who is as clear thinking as she APPEARS to be two hours later.

She does suggest that someone (suggested her mother) could have come in and taken A away allowing the rest of the family to rest on.... However she never once thought to call mom and ask she just drives aimlessly (apparently) around for 2 hours on borrowed gas.

I know we all react to things differently but these are pretty stark differences. I also am aware none of my above observances are any different from a lot of others but this is why I believe LE seems to be stuck on the family... I sure don't want to believe this baby is a victim of one or more of her own family members but no one in this family showed any sense of URGENCY to this situation. It was tearfully reported but I kindof think it was HESITANTLY reported.

 

[Westinlund]

Some questions I have been pondering this afternoon..

So we know (do we?) that the SD went to work that morning

And there is a man's voice heard in the 1st version of the 911 call (prior to more editing by.. LE?)

Do we know if the SD clocked out at work/left.. and came home that morning. Does MSM have anything to prove SD was here or there?

SD was picked up and taken to work. That is from my local source.

 

[Paulette]

OK I wasn't gonna do this.....but I can't resist seeing my reasoning in black and white.
LOL

She does sound distraught. But she does seem to be choosing her words IMO. Most of us would be struggling for coherent statements not choosing words or following a script.

She claims to have searched B, for an hour, up the street. But she never looks down near the water, or call for the child, or at least send the other children looking and calling... NO LOOKING where a 3 year old might possibly gone on her own. This is quite the opposite of someone who is as clear thinking as she APPEARS to be two hours later.

She does suggest that someone (suggested her mother) could have come in and taken A away allowing the rest of the family to rest on.... However she never once thought to call mom and ask she just drives aimlessly (apparently) around for 2 hours on borrowed gas.

I know we all react to things differently but these are pretty stark differences. I also am aware none of my above observances are any different from a lot of others but this is why I believe LE seems to be stuck on the family... I sure don't want to believe this baby is a victim of one or more of her own family members but no one in this family showed any sense of URGENCY to this situation. It was tearfully reported but I kindof think it was HESITANTLY reported.

You nailed it on all your points. IMO, she had to drive around in order to work herself into a lather and gain the courage to call LE.

 

[secretagent]

I find myself defending this mother. I don't know why. Normally I would be judguing her on her lifestyle, the fact of multiple men as well as her parenting skills (or lack there of).
She is definitely not my kind of person. However, she is the mother of a missing child and has not been named as a POI or suspect.
I Refelct on the antics of my alomst 2 year old and worry that if anything ever happened to her, I would be presumed the one responsible. That scares me as my daughter is the reason I breathe.

I would have done every single thing diferently if I were in Lena's shoes. (I'd like to think) but I hope I never find out.
But....
Until shes a suspect I think she deserves the courtesy that Webseluths traditionally extends to victims of a crime.

 

[Cortne]

OK I wasn't gonna do this.....but I can't resist seeing my reasoning in black and white.
LOL

She does sound distraught. But she does seem to be choosing her words IMO. Most of us would be struggling for coherent statements not choosing words or following a script.

She claims to have searched B, for an hour, up the street. But she never looks down near the water, or call for the child, or at least send the other children looking and calling... NO LOOKING where a 3 year old might possibly gone on her own. This is quite the opposite of someone who is as clear thinking as she APPEARS to be two hours later.

She does suggest that someone (suggested her mother) could have come in and taken A away allowing the rest of the family to rest on.... However she never once thought to call mom and ask she just drives aimlessly (apparently) around for 2 hours on borrowed gas.

I know we all react to things differently but these are pretty stark differences. I also am aware none of my above observances are any different from a lot of others but this is why I believe LE seems to be stuck on the family... I sure don't want to believe this baby is a victim of one or more of her own family members but no one in this family showed any sense of URGENCY to this situation. It was tearfully reported but I kindof think it was HESITANTLY reported.

Agreed.

Also, at 3 yrs old I would call 911 after about ummmm 60 secs ( which would have included a call to any fam that cld hv stopped by to grab her while I was asleep ) of not finding her. Not drive around first. Geez.

I only hear fake fear for the baby in the call. And oh chit I better start panicking. I hear the call as forced concern. jmo I hope I am wrong.

 

[cachmo]

http://www.wboy.com/story.cfm?func=viewstory&storyid=109463

Aliayah Lunsford Still Missing on 12th Day

This article says looking outside the county?!?!?

 

[Westinlund]

This article says looking outside the county?!?!?

Grandmother lives in Braxton county, where the family moved from.

 

[lishac23]

This article says looking outside the county?!?!?

IMO that's normal procedure based on the amount of time from the last she was seen to the time she was reported missing/LE began searching. One could get pretty far in several hours.

 

[sonicfanaticsmommy]

I haven't read all of the posts but I'm hoping for baby Aliayah's safe return. Unfortunately, I don't think it's going to happen. you do not drive around for two hours looking for a THREE Y/O!!! I think LE is waiting for Mom or SD to slip up, and then they'll slip in.

 

[JeannieC]

I question one thing and it is probably only me but I'm going to throw this out anyway. When one of my children was sick I put that child in bed with me so I could keep him near and still get some sleep.

I find it strange that a mother would put the sick child in a room alone and put the healthy ones in bed with her. MOO

 

[sonicfanaticsmommy]

I think mom hasn't been named as a suspect or POI bc LE doesn't want to put any strain on a woman who is about to give birth. What can they really do to her, IF she did something, before she has the babies?

 

[Paulette]

This article says looking outside the county?!?!?

Funny that. In this teensy weensy article is added: "Also, Aliayah's mother Lena Lunsford is currently in litigation against an officer at the Beckley Work Release Center. She claims she was sexually assaulted, harassed and abused during her time there in 2008. The case is still pending in Kanawha County Circuit Court."

Maybe Stacy Jacobson is just filling space in a very short article or maybe it is significant.

I'm trying to picture a prison guard peaking through the window of LL's house waiting for an opportune moment to kidnap Aliayah.

 

[tlcya]

I find myself defending this mother. I don't know why. Normally I would be judguing her on her lifestyle, the fact of multiple men as well as her parenting skills (or lack there of).
She is definitely not my kind of person. However, she is the mother of a missing child and has not been named as a POI or suspect.
I Refelct on the antics of my alomst 2 year old and worry that if anything ever happened to her, I would be presumed the one responsible. That scares me as my daughter is the reason I breathe.

I would have done every single thing diferently if I were in Lena's shoes. (I'd like to think) but I hope I never find out.
But....
Until shes a suspect I think she deserves the courtesy that Webseluths traditionally extends to victims of a crime.

I hope you haven't found any my posts discourteous. I agree, we have not been told mom is a POI. We have, however, been afforded some rather unflattering information about she and RL via the MSM, all of which is well within TOS to discuss.

The immediate family is pretty much mum except for one very brief interview with reporter on day 1, and not much else in the way of info has been released. All we have is a 911 call after an unusual wait prior to calling, criminal records, CPS removing the other children - all of which comprise the only real known facts in this case as reported in MSM.

Those three things are not terribly flattering and can easily lead folks to speculate that all is not what it seems.

Yes, we are a victim friendly site. But in my eyes, Aliayah is the victim, first and foremost, everyone else is secondary.

While no one needs name call or be cruel to LL, I feel it would be a bit much to ask that the majority of WS members completely suspend all disbelief and common sense in order to spare mom's feelings.

We walk a fine line, and so far I think everyone following Aliayah's case has done an excellent job of doing so.

all simply MOO

 

[wenc]

In case no one has mentioned it, don't have time right now to go back and look. Local newspaper today says no more press conferences after today. It says that Killeen did not say who the persons of interest are. Then in the next paragraph said the parents are most likely being considered persons of interest. Good reporting, huh? Anyway, first article I have seen that mentioned the SD by name.

http://www.westondemocrat.com/news.html

 

[redfish]

I find myself defending this mother. I don't know why. Normally I would be judguing her on her lifestyle, the fact of multiple men as well as her parenting skills (or lack there of).
She is definitely not my kind of person. However, she is the mother of a missing child and has not been named as a POI or suspect.
I Refelct on the antics of my alomst 2 year old and worry that if anything ever happened to her, I would be presumed the one responsible. That scares me as my daughter is the reason I breathe.

I would have done every single thing diferently if I were in Lena's shoes. (I'd like to think) but I hope I never find out.
But....
Until shes a suspect I think she deserves the courtesy that Webseluths traditionally extends to victims of a crime.

In so many respects I agree with you. I don't like what I see happening in our communities. I don't think it is right that so many of us suspect these parents of harming their children.

Most of us are mothers. And I bet at least 98% of us has had one of our children "disappear" at one time or another, especially at the age of 3. They are little tricksters at that age or just wanderers! Their curiosity gets to them and poof they are gone. You look away for 1 sec and they are gone. Who can honestly say their first reaction wasn't alarm? A panic in the pit of your stomach? Who didn't call out immediately for that child? I know how quick this happens and how often. I so know what it is like to be a young overwhelmed mother of 5. I had a wanderer and at the age of 3 I introduced him to the members of the volunteer fire department in my rural community!! I wanted them to remember his little freckled face!

 

[housemaid25]

Funny that. In this teensy weensy article is added: [I]"Also, Aliayah's mother Lena Lunsford is currently in litigation against an officer at the Beckley Work Release Center. She claims she was sexually assaulted, harassed and abused during her time there in 2008. The case is still pending in Kanawha County Circuit Court."[/I]

Maybe Stacy Jacobson is just filling space in a very short article or maybe it is significant.

I'm trying to picture a prison guard peaking through the window of LL's house waiting for an opportune moment to kidnap Aliayah.

When I read this article, I was wondering what was the point in putting this in here.

 

[lynnb]

I question one thing and it is probably only me but I'm going to throw this out anyway. When one of my children was sick I put that child in bed with me so I could keep him near and still get some sleep.

I find it strange that a mother would put the sick child in a room alone and put the healthy ones in bed with her. MOO

and I'm thinking the older ones would have slept later than the younger ones anyway. IMO. Why not just let the older ones in their room?

 

[kljohnson0458]

I find myself defending this mother. I don't know why. Normally I would be judguing her on her lifestyle, the fact of multiple men as well as her parenting skills (or lack there of).
She is definitely not my kind of person. However, she is the mother of a missing child and has not been named as a POI or suspect.
I Refelct on the antics of my alomst 2 year old and worry that if anything ever happened to her, I would be presumed the one responsible. That scares me as my daughter is the reason I breathe.

I would have done every single thing diferently if I were in Lena's shoes. (I'd like to think) but I hope I never find out.
But....
Until shes a suspect I think she deserves the courtesy that Webseluths traditionally extends to victims of a crime.

Amen. That is why I"m on the fence for now. There is more to come and I pray I'm ready to hear it because of how I feel now. God bless Aliayah.

 

[tlcya]

snipped

Law enforcement officials have said from the beginning that they are considering anyone and anything in the child's disappearance, the parents are most likely being considered persons of interest as both the mother and stepfather, Ralph Lunsford, have criminal records.

The mother has charges that include forgery, receiving stolen property and giving false information to police. It has also been reported that she has retained the counsel of Charleston attorney, Tom Smith.

The stepfather also has numerous charges that range from destruction of property, driving violations, burglary as well as many cases of domestic battery, assault and battery.

Members of the community have expressed many ideas, with speculation much about what has happened to little Aliayah but up until this point there has been no evidence or information released from law enforcement that would indicate where she is or what has happened to her. In fact, the FBI has been adamant about not releasing much information about the investigation to the press.

"We do not want to compromise the investigation in any way," said Killeen. "I cannot answer anything of an evidentiary nature."

http://www.westondemocrat.com/news.html


B&UBM for emphasis

thanks for posting wenc, I agree, not sure what to make of that sentence but I think the reporter means that with the criminal backgrounds and given that the family and those with readiest access are usually looked at more closely in any case like this. I think the reporter is making that "person of interest" leap. It does not appear from the article that LE have stated such in so many words. Sounds like the reporter speculating that they are POIs for LE.

 

[lynnb]

Funny that. In this teensy weensy article is added: "Also, Aliayah's mother Lena Lunsford is currently in litigation against an officer at the Beckley Work Release Center. She claims she was sexually assaulted, harassed and abused during her time there in 2008. The case is still pending in Kanawha County Circuit Court."

Maybe Stacy Jacobson is just filling space in a very short article or maybe it is significant.

I'm trying to picture a prison guard peaking through the window of LL's house waiting for an opportune moment to kidnap Aliayah.

IMO, with the character of the men this woman has surrounded herself with, a prison guard isn't high on my list of suspects.