WV WV - Aliayah Lunsford, 3, Lewis Co., 24 Sep 2011 - # 6

[wenc]

Something came out as soon as Little A went missing stating that LL was due in 2 weeks. If that is correct it would be sometime this week. She would still be early but maybe the DR scheduled to deliver this week because it is twins. jmo

If you use the birth date of her last child as the last menstrual period, she would be due October 19 and be about 37 weeks now.

Wonder if they verified that she was expecting twins. Being pregnant will get sympathy, but pregnant with twins will get even more sympathy. If she authorizes release of medical information, she can specify what information she wants released - just verification of pregnancy or all records pertaining to the pregnancy or all medical records. Otherwise, they might have to subpoena the records. Just thinking. At this point, I'm grasping and questioning everything.

 

[KaylynnCouture]

If she's 37 weeks with twins, she could realistically go into labor any day now. Most multiple pregnancies don't go past 37 weeks.

 

[elepher50]

Baby A. , oh Baby A. where are you, how long have you been gone, who knows what happened to you?

Checking in for an update and no forward movement that I can detect.

 

[Donjeta]

If you use the birth date of her last child as the last menstrual period, she would be due October 19 and be about 37 weeks now.

Wonder if they verified that she was expecting twins. Being pregnant will get sympathy, but pregnant with twins will get even more sympathy. If she authorizes release of medical information, she can specify what information she wants released - just verification of pregnancy or all records pertaining to the pregnancy or all medical records. Otherwise, they might have to subpoena the records. Just thinking. At this point, I'm grasping and questioning everything.

Wouldn't it be rather stupid to lie about expecting twins because it would be hard to explain why twins don't materialize at the end of the pregnancy and if it was a new invention people who know her would think, whoo, what, you never said anything about being pregnant with twins before Aliayah disappeared.

But then I suppose we all know about people who tell stupid lies.

 

[wenc]

If she's 37 weeks with twins, she could realistically go into labor any day now. Most multiple pregnancies don't go past 37 weeks.

There is also the possibility that she delivered and it is just not being announced. I wonder who has seen her. It's not like she is on the news. The searchers are no longer around their house. And it's not like your body goes poof and goes back to normal. Some women still look pregnant for awhile after delivering. Look how long it took to verify that DHHR picked up the other children. DHHR could have taken the babies at the hospital or if there was some complication, they could still be at the hospital and released mom to go home. Her being released could be the reason for the activity on Friday, DHHR taking the kids and her hiring a lawyer.

 

[shefner]

Lord, I have a feeling baby Aliayah is with you now....it breaks our hearts that she is gone.

We want her to know she is loved...and missed. We will not forget her.

 

[vasportsmom]

If she's 37 weeks with twins, she could realistically go into labor any day now. Most multiple pregnancies don't go past 37 weeks.

The added stress of a missing child, the ensuing investigation plus the CPS intervention & investigation would only increase the odds of an early delivery I would think.

 

[tlcya]

not too far OT:

I am following the baby Lisa in KSMO amber alert thread. The search for her is in high gear. LE is doing pressers, updates, mutliple agencies invovled in the search/investigation. It is disheartening to see the disparity between how that case for a missing 10 month old and this one for a just turned 3 year old are being treated, by LE, by the press and just in general.

 

[cachmo]

not too far OT:

I am following the baby Lisa in KSMO amber alert thread. The search for her is in high gear. LE is doing pressers, updates, mutliple agencies invovled in the search/investigation. It is disheartening to see the disparity between how that case for a missing 10 month old and this one for a just turned 3 year old are being treated, by LE, by the press and just in general.

Im thinking LE knew which direction Aliayahs case was going. Thats MOO. I just have to think that

 

[jadejazzkayla]

not too far OT:

I am following the baby Lisa in KSMO amber alert thread. The search for her is in high gear. LE is doing pressers, updates, mutliple agencies invovled in the search/investigation. It is disheartening to see the disparity between how that case for a missing 10 month old and this one for a just turned 3 year old are being treated, by LE, by the press and just in general.

Aliayah had to be investigated as a wander away as it was a possibility. Now that LE/DA have decided her disappearance was probably an abduction, they are taking that route now. lisa, at 10 months old, is too young to have wandered away on her own so the LE in her town could skip that step.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Respectfully snipped post Originally Posted by lynnb:
However, there is no longer an investigative interest in searching the Lunsford's Dennison Street home, Killeen said.
http://theintermountain.com/page/con....html?nav=5014

Just checking in with the few minutes I have between appts and trying my best to stay caught up(tho truth be known I truly wish it were the opposite in that little Aliayah's pages were flying so fast from incoming into that I couldn't possibly keep up with them) sadly that's not the case..

In the ^above^ snipped portion of lynnb's post I just wanted to make a quick post about what immediately came to my mind when I read it(of course doesn't mean it's accurate or correct).. Just as a few others have questioned that why with Aliayah indeed still missing and not found, therefor LE doesn't know for certain where she is makes this statement of the house no longer being investigated makes it all the more puzzling.. Unless.. The one thing that immediately popped in my mind was.. Unless LE had somehow concluded that Aliayah was never in that home??

I know some have stated this as a possibility that Aliayah never even made the move to this newest home with her family.. In Zahra's case for quite sometime many of us questioned this as a possibility.. Tho, in this case I wasn't leaning that way at all UNTIL just now reading this ^above^ snipped quote from LE.. I must admit the very first and immediate thought that came to mind was that whatever happened to Aliayah(murdered, sold, etc)possibly happened PRIOR to the family's recent move into the home... Therefor Aliayah has never even been present in any form whatsoever at this new home or property..

FWIW.. Just a thought..

 

[southern_comfort]

Sorry, I had to leave and just posted the homicide, abduction and concealed with what I had. So- homicide, killed, accidentally, intentionally. Homicide is death by another. Abduction, a lie told to conceal the killing? Abduction is taken. Concealed, hidden, hide the truth, I keep coming back to-why did LL decide to come out w the scenario that baby was taken or had disapearred? What were the reasons for that day? Was there a scheduled visit w DCS? There has to be some reason, imo, because seriously, if one child had just been vanished from the home, who is going to leave the home for that length of time? Was the SF called back to the home? I just cant see leaving, let alone that LL is due w twins, for 2 plus hours. imo, she was looking for someone and it wasnt her daughter.

IF Aliayah has been gone for a while and now was simply the chosen time to "explain" it... Maybe her absence had to be dealt with before the birth of the twins. I'd imagine that event would lead to any number of people coming around, from family members to CPS caseworkers, neighbors with trays of lasagna, and goodness knows who else.

As for the drive, there could be anything behind it. It could have been part of the plan, to make it look like she was searching without having to actually talk to anyone, that just didn't work out very well. Maybe it was a last-ditch opportunity to brief the older kids as a captive audience before they had to face others with the story.

 

[Melanie]

Yes, but almost all the kids I know have them starting at 8 & 9 years old. Makes it really hard on parents like me who are more strick with their kids.

EEK - there's no way my son was ready for a FB page at that age. He only opened one last year (13), and it's still under the watchful eye of his mum. I have no problem telling him he best delete a comment, etc. IMHO, FB is a good outlet for teens and I see a real sense of friendship (on his page), but I honestly don't feel an 8, 9, or 11 year old should be on FB.

Just my opinion though.

Mel

 

[wenc]

The OB she goes to (was seen by a close friend when at the Dr herself) will not allow her to deliver vaginally.. he will do a schdeuled C section

There are a whole lot of factors that can change that though, especially with twins.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Just checking in with the few minutes I have between appts and trying my best to stay caught up(tho truth be known I truly wish it were the opposite in that little Aliayah's pages were flying so fast from incoming into that I couldn't possibly keep up with them) sadly that's not the case..

In the ^above^ snipped portion of lynnb's post I just wanted to make a quick post about what immediately came to my mind when I read it(of course doesn't mean it's accurate or correct).. Just as a few others have questioned that why with Aliayah indeed still missing and not found, therefor LE doesn't know for certain where she is makes this statement of the house no longer being investigated makes it all the more puzzling.. Unless.. The one thing that immediately popped in my mind was.. Unless LE had somehow concluded that Aliayah was never in that home??

I know some have stated this as a possibility that Aliayah never even made the move to this newest home with her family.. In Zahra's case for quite sometime many of us questioned this as a possibility.. Tho, in this case I wasn't leaning that way at all UNTIL just now reading this ^above^ snipped quote from LE.. I must admit the very first and immediate thought that came to mind was that whatever happened to Aliayah(murdered, sold, etc)possibly happened PRIOR to the family's recent move into the home... Therefor Aliayah has never even been present in any form whatsoever at this new home or property..

FWIW.. Just a thought..

When I first read the not investigating the home anymore I thought right, just trying to throw off the occupants about listening devices in the home.

Did all the garbage tell a story? No diapers in the mess?

 

[helpfulcharlie]

Did all the garbage tell a story? No diapers in the mess?

The garbage ALWAYS tells a story.

 

[tlcya]

Aliayah had to be investigated as a wander away as it was a possibility. Now that LE/DA have decided her disappearance was probably an abduction, they are taking that route now. lisa, at 10 months old, is too young to have wandered away on her own so the LE in her town could skip that step.

Don't get me wrong, the logical side of my brain knows all of the above. But I cannot help but wonder at the difference in coverage, attention, etc.

Even a wander away just turned 3 year old should rate some helicopters in the air, some attention from the press. Not that I begrudge little Lisa the extrordinary efforts that have been brought to bear from the moment she was reported missing. I simply wish even half of that kind of effort would have been spared on behalf of Little Aliayah.

I am not expressing this well and I apologize. I am not trying to be critical of LE but am more feeling let down by the national press and the whims of their powers that be. I wish the deciding factors on what becomes a BIG story and what gets a few sentences and maybe an update every few days were not so arbitrary.

Today has been all about live streaming coverage regarding the search for little Lisa in KS.

Where was that sort of national concern when little Aliayah was first reported missing?

Wandered away or kidnapped. 10 months old or just turned 3. Either way, a child is in the wind, reported missing. Either is too young to fend for themselves out in the wide world. Both need finding and protecting. Just wish more people had been interested in little Aliayah's story from day one.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Originally Posted by: jadejazzkayla
I don't like speculation anymore than you do. If LE ever apprehends the kidnapper, perhaps their motivation will come out at that time.

I think we all would prefer to have factual info vs. speculation.. Unfortunately here in the case of little Aliayah there are people who are lying, hiding, and covering up the true and factual events of what's happened to this precious babe.. Thus we are left with speculation, unfortunately.. Regardless of whether anyone/everyone "likes" it, it's unfortunately where this case is at the present time..

The one thing this allows me is what has me holding out a glimmer of hope.. And that's speculating that it's not out of the realm of possibility that someone did "take"(kidnap, abduct, "disappear") little Aliayah from this family, from this home out of "protecting" or "saving" this little, precious child.. Of course it is the "bright side" that I've chosen to hold onto until we know the truth of where she is..

IMO why I say it is not out of the realm of possibility is due to the children being abruptly removed from the custody of this mother.. IMO there is not adequate care being given to the little ones AT THE VERY LEAST.. and IMO it's quite possible there were definite forms of abuse taking place within the home, possibly severe(we do not know at this time).. But IMO given what little We do know of both mom and step-dads background, combined with possible previous intervening of the children being removed from the mom's custody.. These things make me believe that is is NOT out of the realm of possibility that someone wanted to "save" precious Aliayah!!! I know that I desperately do just from her few pictures.. Her sweet little Strawberry Shortcake, rounded little face.. I just want to pick her up and hug her, tickle her, and see her little cherubic face light up with laughter!!!! And that's just from a very few pictures!!!

So, I believe it's "possible" that just maybe a family member of her bio-dads wanted to desperately "save" Aliayah as well.. Hell, maybe even an extended family member of her own mom's.. Idk? It is "possible".. Is it "plausible" or "probable"?? No, it's not and I fully realize that.. But until we know where this precious babe is.. A girl can dream, can't she??

 

[Melanie]

This mom is the meanest... no Facebook (nor texting) until your are 18. And several children into it we have stuck to that rule..

Oh, you're no meanie. My 14 YO doesn't have a cell phone and doesn't text. I think it's harder to monitor that activity than FB (so I let him have the FB). If he does borrow the family cell phone, it doesn't have text or internet capability. No e-mail here either because too many spams were coming in...that were none to pleasant. I also have ulterior motives -- I like to see who his friends are (and 90% of them don't lock their wall - silly kids). My DH calls me "the spy".

That doesn't mean I don't find him playing around with his friends fancy dancy I phones and find videos they make on you-tube.

I don't understand the parents out there who think teens really need I-phones with all the bells and whistles!

Just MOO

Mel

 

[wenc]

Yippee!! 9-1-1 tape has been released!! they played a little snippet of it and said they would have the rest at 6:00. They also said they found some evidence, though didn't say what. Covering Governor's election was coming up. It was on WBOY.
Sorry, got so excited that they released the 9-1-1. They moved headquarters to the state police barracks. (Wondered when that was going to happen.) The only part they played was LL said she was looking for about an hour and she was sick with the flu.