Found Deceased WY - Gabby Petito, Grand Teton National Park #87

[Nikynoo]

Dr. Laura Richards and the July 2022 Domestic Violence Report have detailed information regarding how the Moab police did not assess the situation correctly, and both agree that the Moab police did not even properly apply Utah's Physical Aggressor law correctly. I am not a lawyer, but found the above links helpful in understanding the reason for the lawsuit. <modsnip: quoted post was snipped>

The question open for me is even if they had assessed the situation as they were supposed to, would the outcome have been the same?

 

[NCWatcher]

The question open for me is even if they had assessed the situation as they were supposed to, would the outcome have been the same?

And that's a critical question given the $50 million lawsuit against Moab is for Gabby's wrongful death, the claim being the police and the city are responsible for GP's death hundreds of miles away weeks later.

Is it possible if BL had gone to jail for the night in Moab GP would have left him and gone safely back to NY? It's possible. Not likely IMO but possible. Yet she didn't leave when they were separated the night of the incident. She had the van and he was in a hotel that night. (Personally I suspect they both ended up at the hotel but we don't know that.) She likely could have gotten a flight out-- we know she had at least $1000 in a bank account. And she didn't leave when he went to Florida a few days later and she stayed in a SLC hotel for 5 days. So I'm not sure a one-night detention would have made a difference. And as I said earlier, NS told the Daily Mail the Moab incident was "irrelevant" and just an ordinary travelers' argument.
JMO

 

[Sundog]

Gabby Petito's parents ask Brian Laundrie's parents about major withdrawals in new court filing

Gabby Petito's parents have asked Brian Laundrie's parents to hand over banking data from the weeks around her death in an ongoing civil lawsuit in Florida.

www.foxnews.com

"Please produce all copies of bank statements or other documents evidencing withdrawals or transfers of funds made by you in excess of $10,000 from August 26, 2021 to September 14, 2021," Petito's parents' attorney Pat Reilly wrote in a pair of court filings addressed to Chris and Roberta Laundrie.

The Laundries have 30 days to reply.


edited to add quote from article

 

[Cool Cats]

OOPs! I see this was posted above!​

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Gabby Petito's parents ask Brian Laundrie's parents about major withdrawals in new court filing​

Thu, April 6, 2023 at 6:09 PM EDT

Gabby Petito's parents ask Brian Laundrie's parents about major withdrawals in new court filing

Gabby Petito's parents have asked Brian Laundrie's parents to hand over banking data from the weeks around her death in an ongoing civil lawsuit in Florida.

www.yahoo.com

Gabby Petito's parents have asked Brian Laundrie's parents to hand over financial information in the weeks around her death in an ongoing civil lawsuit in Florida.

"Please produce all copies of bank statements or other documents evidencing withdrawals or transfers of funds made by you in excess of $10,000 from August 26, 2021 to September 14, 2021," Petito's parents' attorney Pat Reilly wrote in a pair of court filings addressed to Chris and Roberta Laundrie.

The Laundries have 30 days to reply.

Nichole Schmidt and Joseph Petito, Gabby's mother and father, have accused the Laundries of knowingly withholding information about their daughter's whereabouts after her ex-fiance Brian Laundrie is believed to have strangled her to death at a Wyoming campsite.

LAUNDRIE ATTORNEY FILES NEW MOTION TO DISMISS LAWSUIT FROM GABBY PETITO'S PARENTS

 

[TL4S]

Former Laundrie family attorney files request for admission to family of Gabby Petito

 

[Gemmie]

Former Laundrie family attorney files request for admission to family of Gabby Petito

From the MSM article you posted:

Attorneys for Steve Bertolino, the former Laundrie family attorney, have sent a list of questions to the family of Gabby Petito.

The questions are seeking clarity and include questions for the plaintiffs, including admission that they were never in an attorney-client relationship with either plaintiff and if Petito’s parents knew that he was the attorney for the Laundries at the time of the disappearance. The questions are limited to the scope of Sept. 14 and Sept. 19, 2021.

I'm a little rusty on this case as it's been a while... Anyone have any ideas why SB (Laundrie's EX attorney) would want this info? What could he gain? TIA.

Former Laundrie family attorney files request for admission to family of Gabby Petito

Attorneys for Steve Bertolino, the former Laundrie family attorney, have sent a list of questions to the family of Gabby Petito.

www.mysuncoast.com

 

[NCWatcher]

From the MSM article you posted:

Attorneys for Steve Bertolino, the former Laundrie family attorney, have sent a list of questions to the family of Gabby Petito.

The questions are seeking clarity and include questions for the plaintiffs, including admission that they were never in an attorney-client relationship with either plaintiff and if Petito’s parents knew that he was the attorney for the Laundries at the time of the disappearance. The questions are limited to the scope of Sept. 14 and Sept. 19, 2021.

I'm a little rusty on this case as it's been a while... Anyone have any ideas why SB (Laundrie's EX attorney) would want this info? What could he gain? TIA.

Former Laundrie family attorney files request for admission to family of Gabby Petito

Attorneys for Steve Bertolino, the former Laundrie family attorney, have sent a list of questions to the family of Gabby Petito.

www.mysuncoast.com

I'm not an attorney and I've forgotten some of the details too. But the P's are also suing Bertolino. Obviously he wants out of the suit because even if he prevails in the end (which most legal experts say would happen) it's a huge hassle for him to have to deal with.

I suspect SB is trying to show he had no professional duty to the P's. And so far as I know, the statement about GP he made on behalf of the L's in Sept 2021-- the statement that led to the P's deciding to sue him too---was made in a professional capacity when he was representing the L's.

That's my take anyway.
JMO

 

[Nikynoo]

From the MSM article you posted:

Attorneys for Steve Bertolino, the former Laundrie family attorney, have sent a list of questions to the family of Gabby Petito.

The questions are seeking clarity and include questions for the plaintiffs, including admission that they were never in an attorney-client relationship with either plaintiff and if Petito’s parents knew that he was the attorney for the Laundries at the time of the disappearance. The questions are limited to the scope of Sept. 14 and Sept. 19, 2021.

I'm a little rusty on this case as it's been a while... Anyone have any ideas why SB (Laundrie's EX attorney) would want this info? What could he gain? TIA.

Former Laundrie family attorney files request for admission to family of Gabby Petito

Attorneys for Steve Bertolino, the former Laundrie family attorney, have sent a list of questions to the family of Gabby Petito.

www.mysuncoast.com

from the article - Bertolino was added to the civil suit in January 2023. Joseph Petito and Nichole Schmidt say Steven Bertolino’s statements on behalf of the Laundries caused them “mental suffering and anguish” at the time they were desperately searching for their daughter.

I was guess that he wants out of the civil suit and the answer to these questions may help him.

ETA - now that I have read the legal docs, he is saying that if there was none of the relationships quoted, that he did not owe a duty of care to NS. If he was the attorney for the L's at the times stated, the only duty he had was to his client(s).

IMO, this will get messy.

 

[Laura456]

This will set interesting precedent for client attorney relationships going forward

 

[Lawnguylander1964]

From the time Steve Bertolino first surfaced as a spokesperson/lawyer for the Laundrie family, I always felt he was in way over his head and maybe too close to the family to be the one navigating. While the outcome would not have changed, I think the way things unfolded could have been handled better, ultimately avoiding this lawsuit and the continued pain all around.

 

[Warwick7]

May 6, 2023 article.
May 24, 2023 is the hearing.

Brian Laundrie’s mother offered to bake cake with shiv inside, claims Petito attorney in court filing

VENICE, Fla. (WFLA) — Brian Laundrie’s mother wrote a letter to her son that included an offer of baking a cake with a shiv inside to help Brian if he were sent to prison for Gabby Peti…

www.wfla.com

 

[Sundog]

May 6, 2023 article.
May 24, 2023 is the hearing.

Brian Laundrie’s mother offered to bake cake with shiv inside, claims Petito attorney in court filing

VENICE, Fla. (WFLA) — Brian Laundrie’s mother wrote a letter to her son that included an offer of baking a cake with a shiv inside to help Brian if he were sent to prison for Gabby Peti…

www.wfla.com

“The purpose of the letter was to reach out to Brian while he and I were experiencing a difficult period in our relationship,” Roberta wrote in the court motion to protect the letter from release. “Brian and I always had a very open and communicative relationship and in the months prior to the trip our relationship had become strained. Brian and I shared a love of stories and some of the language in the letter was using similar phrases to describe the depth of a mother’s love.”

I am sure that the FBI did their due diligence with regard to the letter, and determined that it had nothing to do with GP's death and appears to have been written months before Gabby's murder.

 

[housewife]

May 6, 2023 article.
May 24, 2023 is the hearing.

Brian Laundrie’s mother offered to bake cake with shiv inside, claims Petito attorney in court filing

VENICE, Fla. (WFLA) — Brian Laundrie’s mother wrote a letter to her son that included an offer of baking a cake with a shiv inside to help Brian if he were sent to prison for Gabby Peti…

www.wfla.com

From the article:
“The letter in question, written by Roberta Laundrie to Brian Laundrie references bringing a shovel to help bury a body, and baking a cake with a shiv in it should Brian Laundrie go to prison"

So Roberta claims she wrote this letter months before Gabby's murder... Can we infer she wrote it before Brian and Gabby physically left Roberta's home?
"my love for him... could not be shaken by the miles of separation we would soon be faced with."

IMHO Roberta's words are pretty melodramatic for a "Love you, hope you both have a great trip!" message. She is not sending her son well wishes on his future adventure, like "Make sure you wear sunscreen! Take lots of pics! We will be watching your posts on youtube! Love you guys! Call us if you need anything!"

That is the kind of letter I would expect to see, addressing the exciting future Brian would be undertaking with his fiancee.

But IMHO, Roberta's words aren't looking to the future, nor are they light-hearted or quirky.

IMHO the letter was addressing Brian's PAST behavior/actions. Because the letter is reassuring Brian that his mom would help him AFTER something happened (something horrible, why else would she mention prison?). IMHO there must have been a notable event that would have prompted Brian's mom to assure him she would defend him and help him escape any situation.

IMHO I also think Roberta has an odd way of thinking about her role as mother. Why would she feel the need to tell her adult son that her love for him "won't be diminished" or "shaken"... because he is going on a road trip? Seems very silly.

IMHO it's more likely she was assuring Brian that her love could not be shaken after something bad had already happened.

I'd love to see the letter. I wonder if Roberta even mentions Gabby by name, or at all.

 

[Sundog]

From the article:
“The letter in question, written by Roberta Laundrie to Brian Laundrie references bringing a shovel to help bury a body, and baking a cake with a shiv in it should Brian Laundrie go to prison"

So Roberta claims she wrote this letter months before Gabby's murder... Can we infer she wrote it before Brian and Gabby physically left Roberta's home?
"my love for him... could not be shaken by the miles of separation we would soon be faced with."

IMHO Roberta's words are pretty melodramatic for a "Love you, hope you both have a great trip!" message. She is not sending her son well wishes on his future adventure, like "Make sure you wear sunscreen! Take lots of pics! We will be watching your posts on youtube! Love you guys! Call us if you need anything!"

That is the kind of letter I would expect to see, addressing the exciting future Brian would be undertaking with his fiancee.

But IMHO, Roberta's words aren't looking to the future, nor are they light-hearted or quirky.

IMHO the letter was addressing Brian's PAST behavior/actions. Because the letter is reassuring Brian that his mom would help him AFTER something happened (something horrible, why else would she mention prison?). IMHO there must have been a notable event that would have prompted Brian's mom to assure him she would defend him and help him escape any situation.

IMHO I also think Roberta has an odd way of thinking about her role as mother. Why would she feel the need to tell her adult son that her love for him "won't be diminished" or "shaken"... because he is going on a road trip? Seems very silly.

IMHO it's more likely she was assuring Brian that her love could not be shaken after something bad had already happened.

I'd love to see the letter. I wonder if Roberta even mentions Gabby by name, or at all.

RL may have seen the two of them fighting a lot, and not getting along very well, so she may have been worried about them as they left home for this trip. Her misgivings about the relationship and her expressing them may have caused BL to distance from her before the trip and this might have been hard on RL due to a formerly close relationship with her son.

Not all parents have the kind of chirpy style of communicating you have described, and so I don't have those expectations that you laid out on how a parent "should" react to their child going on a trip.

I think they had their particular way of communicating, as do many others, and the letter is probably relective of that.

 

[steeltowngirl]

From the article:
“The letter in question, written by Roberta Laundrie to Brian Laundrie references bringing a shovel to help bury a body, and baking a cake with a shiv in it should Brian Laundrie go to prison"

So Roberta claims she wrote this letter months before Gabby's murder... Can we infer she wrote it before Brian and Gabby physically left Roberta's home?
"my love for him... could not be shaken by the miles of separation we would soon be faced with."

IMHO Roberta's words are pretty melodramatic for a "Love you, hope you both have a great trip!" message. She is not sending her son well wishes on his future adventure, like "Make sure you wear sunscreen! Take lots of pics! We will be watching your posts on youtube! Love you guys! Call us if you need anything!"

That is the kind of letter I would expect to see, addressing the exciting future Brian would be undertaking with his fiancee.

But IMHO, Roberta's words aren't looking to the future, nor are they light-hearted or quirky.

IMHO the letter was addressing Brian's PAST behavior/actions. Because the letter is reassuring Brian that his mom would help him AFTER something happened (something horrible, why else would she mention prison?). IMHO there must have been a notable event that would have prompted Brian's mom to assure him she would defend him and help him escape any situation.

IMHO I also think Roberta has an odd way of thinking about her role as mother. Why would she feel the need to tell her adult son that her love for him "won't be diminished" or "shaken"... because he is going on a road trip? Seems very silly.

IMHO it's more likely she was assuring Brian that her love could not be shaken after something bad had already happened.

I'd love to see the letter. I wonder if Roberta even mentions Gabby by name, or at all.

Sounds to me like BL was the stereotypical mama’s boy.

jmo

 

[10ofRods]

The question open for me is even if they had assessed the situation as they were supposed to, would the outcome have been the same?

You mean, if they had documented the marks on Gabby's face and taken her statement that Brian had "shmooshed" her face the way LE in other places do? Because, where I live, I do believe both of this couple would have been written up (at the very least). Gabby ought to have been offered the resources that Moab has for women who are victims of DV. This might have involved taking both of them down to the station, which of course, the police wanted to avoid (and did).

Do people change behaviors after they are taken to police stations and a report made on DV? IME, yes. Yes, they do.

Would Brian had still gotten enraged and strangled Gabby? We don't know.

But she should have been made to put the DV hotline number in her phone, in any case. It's sobering when the police ask a person to do that - they both should have had to do it (I assume Brian had a phone).

We will never know, but that's what the policies are locally, where I live. DV hotlines (usually staffed by volunteers - many of us on WS have done this work) really do help.

IMO, and IME.

 

[Tricia]

PROSECUTION AND DEFENSE REST/MORE DISGUSTING TEXT MESSAGES
WE GO LIVE AT 10:30 PM EASTERN!
5/9/23
WOW WOW WOW!
The defense in the Lori Daybell trial basically said the prosecution did not prove their case so the don't need to present a defense.
Closing arguments on Thursday!
The verdict will be live-streamed!
Get ready for more gag-inducing text messages between Chad and Lori. It's all about "the storm". BLECH!
Brian Laundrie. Remember him? His mom did something really weird. We'll talk about it tonight.

 

[Laura456]

You mean, if they had documented the marks on Gabby's face and taken her statement that Brian had "shmooshed" her face the way LE in other places do? Because, where I live, I do believe both of this couple would have been written up (at the very least). Gabby ought to have been offered the resources that Moab has for women who are victims of DV. This might have involved taking both of them down to the station, which of course, the police wanted to avoid (and did).

Do people change behaviors after they are taken to police stations and a report made on DV? IME, yes. Yes, they do.

Would Brian had still gotten enraged and strangled Gabby? We don't know.

But she should have been made to put the DV hotline number in her phone, in any case. It's sobering when the police ask a person to do that - they both should have had to do it (I assume Brian had a phone).

We will never know, but that's what the policies are locally, where I live. DV hotlines (usually staffed by volunteers - many of us on WS have done this work) really do help.

IMO, and IME.

Can someone call the DV hotline if they're having a rage episode and are needing someone to help them feel grounded again? (I assume that, like a panic attack, naming five things you can see, four things you can smell etc and other similar strategies would work)

 

[Skigirl]

RL may have seen the two of them fighting a lot, and not getting along very well, so she may have been worried about them as they left home for this trip. Her misgivings about the relationship and her expressing them may have caused BL to distance from her before the trip and this might have been hard on RL due to a formerly close relationship with her son.

Not all parents have the kind of chirpy style of communicating you have described, and so I don't have those expectations that you laid out on how a parent "should" react to their child going on a trip.

I think they had their particular way of communicating, as do many others, and the letter is probably relective of that.

Son, I want you and Gabby to have a wonderful trip. And if you happen to kill “someone” *wink* you know I have the shovel ready. Totally normal mom-son communication. Jmo

 

[TL4S]

This is behind a paywall, but I can't find any other MSM article about it. I haven't been able to read more than the first couple lines...

Petito parents: Laundries put attorney on retainer day after son came home