Found Deceased WY - Gabby Petito, Grand Teton National Park #87

[Sundog]

You never know what one experience or trial may change someone else. Example: if there is someone out there and they are thinking of harming their mate or God for bid kill their mate, maybe going thru all these conversations and or the trial will cause them not to do that and get help instead.

There's a movie quote: with every breath we take it changes our lives.

These conversations could change anyone. And that's just one benefit.

But ethically speaking, people are not to be used as means to an end. Using Roberta Laundrie for some unknown end is contrary to the ethical system we have developed related to persons and their ultimate value in the western world. "Persons" are ends in themselves.

JMO

 

[Sundog]

It's not going to change the reality, but I do think it's all part of their grieving. Wanting peace, wanting answers, wanting to blame someone. They know a lot of the story, but not all of the story. There is still a blank spot that they don't have details about and they want to fill in those blanks with facts.

But the Laundrie's are grieving, too.

 

[Lawnguylander1964]

Absolutely. But it's possible the L's don't have this unknown part of the story like Gabby's family seems to have. The L's possibly know the whole story and know exactly what happened during his visit home in the middle of the trip and any other conversations they had with him. This is what I believe they are trying to find out and the only way to do that if the L's weren't willing to sit down and tell all voluntarily was to sue them. I guess this is what they came up with as the solution to getting the whole story.

In a perfect would, these two families would have gotten together, discussed what each side knew to fill in the blanks and everyone would have gone their separate ways and grieved privately. But that didn't happen as far as we know.

 

[NervousNellie]

Even if the P's get the texts between Brian and the L's, they may not know anything more than they did before. Specifically, I seriously doubt they texted back and forth about a homicide. Even if they did so in code, it will just be speculation that it's code.

 

[Warwick7]

But ethically speaking, people are not to be used as means to an end. Using Roberta Laundrie for some unknown end is contrary to the ethical system we have developed related to persons and their ultimate value in the western world. "Persons" are ends in themselves.

JMO

Everyone is an example to someone else. To the good or to the bad.

 

[Cedars]

But the Laundrie's are grieving, too.

I agree.

One could argue that the P's are trying to lessen their own pain by inflicting as much pain as possible on the L's.

Which isn't surprising or unusual, people do it all the time.

JMO

 

[Warwick7]

Laundries were grieving BEFORE their son killed himself. Brian made that clear.

READ: Brian Laundrie’s notebook confession, message to Gabby Petito

An attorney for the Laundrie family released contents of Brian Laundrie’s notebook on Friday, including what appeared to be his confession and explanation for killing his fiancée Gabby Petito…

www.wfla.com

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1669104442371723265

They already asked for their texts over a year ago, and apparently without success. So I wouldn't expect them to produce them now without a court order. jmo

 

[heartandsoul]

Good for them. If the L's have done nothing wrong, we will find that out. If they did, perhaps Gabby will finally get some justice. But not that which she deserves. The L's may be grieving, but their son did kill Gabby and the P's deserve to know what they knew (if anything, of course).

 

[TL4S]

Any texts between the Ls and their son surely were read by the FBI and other LE. If there were incriminating details in those texts, why would the Ls not have had to answer to them, criminally? I'm asking sincerely. At what level would them knowing and communicating with B warrant a civil, but not criminal trial?

 

[MartinDupuis]

Poor Gabby she seems like a sweet girl....very sad what happened to her

 

[ch_13]

Any texts between the Ls and their son surely were read by the FBI and other LE. If there were incriminating details in those texts, why would the Ls not have had to answer to them, criminally? I'm asking sincerely. At what level would them knowing and communicating with B warrant a civil, but not criminal trial?

They're not really looking for the same thing, though.

For one thing the standard of proof is different: beyond a reasonable doubt vs. preponderance of the evidence.

More importantly, the FBI would have been looking for evidence of criminality, for example if the Laundrie's were helping Brian evade the authorities. The Petito's, on the other hand, are looking to bolster their civil tort alleging infliction of emotional distress.

So, just as a hypothetical example: Let's say that BL sent his parents a text from Wyoming saying, "Gabby's dead." It's certainly not a crime to receive such a text. But it could be evidence in the civil suit.

 

[heartandsoul]

IMO, the P family are also victims of BL and his actions. Plain and simple. I’m not really comfortable questioning the morals of how they go about seeking justice for their daughter. If, God forbid, I lost a child in those circumstances, I am quite sure I would also pursue any and every legal route I could to give them any sort of legal justice and closure. They believe they can find that with this case, we will soon find out if they’re right or not.

They do also have a wonderful foundation in Gabby’s name, which is already helping victims of DV and raising crucial awareness for others to spot the signs. Something that could have saved Gabby’s life.

 

[LinasK]

It's not going to change the reality, but I do think it's all part of their grieving. Wanting peace, wanting answers, wanting to blame someone. They know a lot of the story, but not all of the story. There is still a blank spot that they don't have details about and they want to fill in those blanks with facts.

It's not necessary to have to "need someone to blame". Gabby didn't kill herself. Her parents know who her killer was, and whom they suspect helped him escape justice.

 

[Cool Cats]

It's not necessary to have to "need someone to blame". Gabby didn't kill herself. Her parents know who her killer was, and whom they suspect helped him escape justice.

Yup.He admits to killing her but I believe he is lying about why he did it and the circumstances of it happening. She fell in cold water, was injured so he put her out of her misery. Not buying it but he did confess to being the killer.

READ: Brian Laundrie’s notebook confession, message to Gabby Petito

An attorney for the Laundrie family released contents of Brian Laundrie’s notebook on Friday, including what appeared to be his confession and explanation for killing his fiancée Gabby Petito…

www.wfla.com

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

The autopsy proves he was lying, if there was ever any doubt.

 

[Cool Cats]

The autopsy proves he was lying, if there was ever any doubt.

I don't remember that, could you explain or share a link, thanks!

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

I don't remember that, could you explain or share a link, thanks!

You're right, I take it back. The autopsy said she was strangled, but he only said he "ended her life," not how.

Still it's not very believable, manual strangulation would be quite a drastic and barbaric step, if out of mercy.

 

[LinasK]

You're right, I take it back. The autopsy said she was strangled, but he only said he "ended her life," not how.

Still it's not very believable, manual strangulation would be quite a drastic and barbaric step, if out of mercy.

Poor excuse on his part, she wasn't a wounded animal. Supposedly she was his fiance. If it truly was an accident, you go get help. Plus he used her credit card and vehicle and fled. That's consciousness of guilt.

 

[Laura456]

Poor excuse on his part, she wasn't a wounded animal. Supposedly she was his fiance. If it truly was an accident, you go get help. Plus he used her credit card and vehicle and fled. That's consciousness of guilt.

It's not like she had metastatic brain cancer that was getting worse and she was in her last days. Even then, this is no way to go.

"She would fall asleep and I would shake her awake, fearing she shouldn’t close her eyes if she had a concussion.

She would wake in pain, start her whole painful cycle again while furious that I was the one waking her.

She wouldn’t let me cross the creek, thought like me that the fire would go out in her sleep and she’d freeze. I don’t know the extent of Gabby’s injuries, only that she was in extreme pain."

He had a cell phone and there is reception there. The car was not that far....run and get help! If she's conscious, she has a good chance of being saved!