Found Deceased WY - Gabby Petito, Grand Teton National Park #88

[sapphire blue]

Gabby admitted to LE that she initiated the hitting episode. Brian was trying to get away from her so she would calm down. Men can be victims of domestic violence.

JMO

Associate Professor Denise Hines educates FBI personnel on the realities of male victims of domestic violence

Denise Hines, associate professor in the College’s Department of Social Work, was the keynote speaker at an FBI event for Domestic Violence Awareness Month. The FBI entitled the event: “Men: An Underrepresented Victim.”

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Victims of domestic violence often blame themselves for the abusers actions or take the blame to protect their partners from getting into trouble.

Understanding Self-Blame in Victims of Abuse | Solara Mental

Why do victims of abuse blame themselves? We explain what self-blame is, why it happens, and how to overcome it in this guide.

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[girlhasnoname]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed>Gabby's remains were not found in the desert, Ranch is correct. The OP's post wasn't even about that, it was about an incident that happened in the high desert of Moab Utah.

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Joe Petito says he doesn't need the money, that he has enough money and it is not about money.

“I don’t want—I don’t give a s— about a dime. I don’t. I don’t care. I work. I do well. It’s not about the money,” Petito said. “I want to make them hurt as much as they hurt us. As I told Pat, there’s not [an] amount of money that I would settle for, not a dime.”

Patrick Reilly, attorney for Petito’s parents, said Brian Laundrie did not have $3 million; it’s an arbitrary number. Whatever money is received will go to the Gabby Petito Foundation dedicated to locating missing people and curbing domestic violence.

Gabby Petito's parents sue Moab, Utah, police for "failures and negligence" they say led to her death

Attorneys say that one officer of the Moab Police Department has a history of domestic violence that made him "fundamentally biased" and led him to "ignoring evidence that Gabby was the victim."

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James McConkie, who is representing the family, said in a statement that the lawsuit is meant to demand accountability and lead to systemic changes for victims of domestic abuse.

“The purpose of this lawsuit is to honor Gabby’s legacy by demanding accountability and working toward systemic changes to protect victims of domestic abuse and violence and prevent such tragedies in the future,” attorney James W. McConkie said in a statement.

Gabby Petito’s Parents Want Apology, Not Blood Money, From Brian Laundrie’s Family (Exclusive)​

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Christopher and Roberta Laundrie send settlement proposal to Gabby Petito’s parents

Brian Laundrie’s parents have sent a settlement proposal to the parents of Gabby Petito to resolve a civil suit that’s set to go to trial next year, according to court documents obtaine…

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TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) — Brian Laundrie’s parents have sent a settlement proposal to the parents of Gabby Petito to resolve a civil suit that’s set to go to trial next year, according to court documents obtained by WFLA.

"Gabby's family felt that the Laundries' proposal was generally just a financial offer, which they aren't really interested in," the source said.

"What Gabby's family wants is some sort of public acknowledgment and apology, which the Laundries aren't offering at this time."

Exactly, what the Petitos want from the Laundrie family is the TRUTH, and a heartfelt apology, sadly which I don't think the Laundries are even capable of. They've conspired from the beginning to protect their son at whatever cost, and I don't see that changing.

BL's estate is probably valued at about $30.00 tops, remember he did have to steal and use Gabby's credit cards and van to even flee the murder scene to get back to Mommy & Daddy, so a $3M award is just a number along with a slap in the face. Much like the civil judgement in the OJ and Goldman family. Their poor son was a completely innocent victim and overlooked in that case because of 'celebrity'. I feel so sorry for them, as well as the Petitio family.

We can't dictate morality, and I fear the Petito family will never know the full truth of what happened to their precious daughter. I do wonder though if Gabby had murdered Brian and her family had treated the Laundries in the manner they treated Gabby's family how would they would be feeling and reacting right now?

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[lilacstorm]

BL's estate is probably valued at about $30.00 tops, remember he did have to steal and use Gabby's credit cards and van to even flee the murder scene to get back to Mommy & Daddy, so a $3M award is just a number along with a slap in the face. Much like the civil judgement in the OJ and Goldman family. Their poor son was a completely innocent victim and overlooked in that case because of 'celebrity'. I feel so sorry for them, as well as the Petitio family.

I can't remember where I saw this, but I think BL had about $20,000 to his name. I could be wrong, but I am positive I saw an article shared on WS.

 

[girlhasnoname]

I can't remember where I saw this, but I think BL had about $20,000 to his name. I could be wrong, but I am positive I saw an article shared on WS.

Thanks for that, I hope whatever it is goes to Gabby's Foundation.

 

[GRT]

They didn't remain silent, they obstructed the investigation by issuing a statement that implied that to the best of their knowledge, she was alive.

My personal feeling is that the Laundries didn't have a clue she was dead. Who knows what sort of story Brian came up with, but I doubt he confessed to killing her. He might have said they had a fight and she ran off or something,

The poster, Ranch was correct.

This case is a civil case. Civil cases are only about money. The Petito parents have already won $3 million in a wrongful death settlement against BL's estate.

Brian Laundrie's estate to pay $3 million in wrongful death lawsuit from Petito family

Brian Laundrie's estate will have to pay $3 million dollars to the family of Gabby Petito after a lawsuit settlement was reached.

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JMO

That seems so odd to me. I doubt BL had any money to speak of, and it's not like he can earn any now, so what does a $3M settlement mean in reality?

 

[MyBelle]

Victims of domestic violence often blame themselves for the abusers actions or take the blame to protect their partners from getting into trouble.

Understanding Self-Blame in Victims of Abuse | Solara Mental

Why do victims of abuse blame themselves? We explain what self-blame is, why it happens, and how to overcome it in this guide.

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BBM. This is why victims of domestic violence need a support system whether it be family, friends or an advocate at a domestic violence counseling center. It is essential that others step in to help them protect themselves from harm. GP spoke to her mother the day of the Moeb incident, yet the couple remained together for two more weeks.

JMO

National Domestic Violence Hotline

24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year, the National Domestic Violence Hotline provides essential tools and support to help survivors of domestic violence so they can live their lives free of abuse.

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[MyBelle]

My personal feeling is that the Laundries didn't have a clue she was dead. Who knows what sort of story Brian came up with, but I doubt he confessed to killing her. He might have said they had a fight and she ran off or something,

That seems so odd to me. I doubt BL had any money to speak of, and it's not like he can earn any now, so what does a $3M settlement mean in reality?

BBM. I agree. My adult children have never shared details of their break-ups.

I have no idea how much money or other assets BL had but all the Feds charged him with was the unauthorized use of her credit card. I'm not even sure if he drove the van back to Florida. iirc, her stepdad said it was parked not far from the isolated location where her remains were found.

JMO

 

[housewife]

BBM. This is why victims of domestic violence need a support system whether it be family, friends or an advocate at a domestic violence counseling center. It is essential that others step in to help them protect themselves from harm. GP spoke to her mother the day of the Moeb incident, yet the couple remained together for two more weeks.

JMO

I'm ignoring how the victim is being blamed here...

Police are part of the victim-support system, their job is to intervene and document each time an order of protection is violated. Their job is to investigate and document reports of stalking, harassment, and violence against the victims. Police reports are the evidence needed if abusers are to be prosecuted.

I think it would make law enforcement's job much easier with better DV training. They can spend less time interrogating subjects if they just fill out the DV questionnaire upon arrival at the scene. It tells them what questions to ask and the score informs them what action to take. And the questionnaire becomes documentation that they did their job correctly.

 

[Trooper]

BBM. I agree. My adult children have never shared details of their break-ups.

I have no idea how much money or other assets BL had but all the Feds charged him with was the unauthorized use of her credit card. I'm not even sure if he drove the van back to Florida. iirc, her stepdad said it was parked not far from the isolated location where her remains were found.

JMO

Investigators have gained court permission to access the contents of an external hard drive they say was found in the van of a 22-year-old Long Island woman who disappeared while on a cross-country trek and is believed dead -- as the search continues for the still-missing boyfriend said to be a person of interest in the case.

The search warrant confirmation from Florida's 12th Judicial Circuit court in Sarasota County says the external hard drive was discovered during the Sept. 14 execution of another search warrant linked to the case of Gabby Petito.

That Sept. 14 search warrant applied to the van she and Brian Laundrie traveled across parts of the western United States in -- and it was the same white van that Laundrie returned to his home in Florida driving alone, 10 days before Petito's parents reported her missing. Investigators said in their warrant request they believe the hard drive to contain evidence connected to her disappearance.

The white van was located at the Laundrie family address where Petito had been living with her boyfriend's family prior to their trip on Sept. 11, the same day Petito's mother reported her missing. Laundrie's family refused investigators permission to speak with their son, later described as a person of interest, at that time.

Hard Drive Found in Gabby Petito's Van, Last Text Details Emerge; Laundrie Still Missing

UPDATE: Gabby Petito a Homicide Victim But Key Autopsy Detail Unclear; FBI’s Top Person of Interest Stays Off-Grid Investigators have gained court permission to access the contents of an external hard drive they say was found in the van of a 22-year-old Long Island woman who disappeared while on...

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[housewife]

BBM. I agree. My adult children have never shared details of their break-ups.

I have no idea how much money or other assets BL had but all the Feds charged him with was the unauthorized use of her credit card. I'm not even sure if he drove the van back to Florida. iirc, her stepdad said it was parked not far from the isolated location where her remains were found.

JMO

Out of curiosity, how do you believe the van was brought back to the Laundrie's driveway, if it wasn't Brian?

 

[Trooper]

My personal feeling is that the Laundries didn't have a clue she was dead. Who knows what sort of story Brian came up with, but I doubt he confessed to killing her. He might have said they had a fight and she ran off or something,

That seems so odd to me. I doubt BL had any money to speak of, and it's not like he can earn any now, so what does a $3M settlement mean in reality?

The amount is symbolic. Totemic. Intrinsic. The point is accountability.,

 

[MyBelle]

I'm ignoring how the victim is being blamed here...

Police are part of the victim-support system, their job is to intervene and document each time an order of protection is violated. Their job is to investigate and document reports of stalking, harassment, and violence against the victims. Police reports are the evidence needed if abusers are to be prosecuted.

I think it would make law enforcement's job much easier with better DV training. They can spend less time interrogating subjects if they just fill out the DV questionnaire upon arrival at the scene. It tells them what questions to ask and the score informs them what action to take. And the questionnaire becomes documentation that they did their job correctly.

BBM. I'm confident Moab LE did make a report of the incident. The Moab officers decided not to prosecute GP and I respect their judgement call.

The Moab police department is not very large, and it is up to city leaders to prioritize funding within the department. There was an investigation done, improvements suggested.

JMO

Moab investigation finds officers made multiple mistakes during Gabby Petito encounter

Moab police made several mistakes while interacting with Gabby Petito and with her fiance, according to an independent investigation. Investigators say Petito should have been charged with domestic assault for scratching and punching Brian Laundrie.

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“The officers protected the victim by separating Brian from Gabby; however, I do not find that they enforced the law,” Price police Capt. Brandon Ratcliffe, the third-party officer who conducted the investigation, wrote in the 99-page report he presented to the city. “They responded to a confirmed domestic violence incident and they had evidence showing an assault had taken place.”

In a statement Thursday, Liz Sollis, a spokesperson for the Utah Domestic Violence Coalition, said Ratcliffe’s conclusions made sense, noting that domestic violence and intimate partner violence present complexities that make evidence-based, trauma-informed responses necessary.

 

[MyBelle]

Out of curiosity, how do you believe the van was brought back to the Laundrie's driveway, if it wasn't Brian?

I saw a tv interview with GP's stepdad and he visited the site where her remains were found. He mentioned that it wasn't far from where the van was parked and that they had to cross a creek. I assumed BL got a rental car to drive back to Florida.

JMO

 

[housewife]

“The officers protected the victim by separating Brian from Gabby; however, I do not find that they enforced the law,” Price police Capt. Brandon Ratcliffe

Often when people investigate themselves (others in the same profession) they don't see errors in their behavior.

Dr. Laura Richards and the Domestic Violence Journal do not agree with the entire 99-page self assessment. Dr. Richards (former head of New Scotland Yard) discusses this in great detail in Crime Analyst episode 96.

Here's the profile of one author of the article:

Gael Strack - EVAWI

Gael Strack is the Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder of Alliance for HOPE International, a nonprofit organization dedicated to creating systemic reforms and social change. This includes a number of … Continue reading "Gael Strack"

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[nao]

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Gabby and Brian were mature adults. They had a volatile relationship but as mature adults, neither chose to lay assault charges.
Since they were mature adults and neither were developmentally delayed. They are free to make the choice to separate or stay together.
Which is why I do not understand why any of the parents need to be involved or held responsible for mature adults choices..moo

 

[Cedars]

Yes if you murdered him..... You didn't .... so the answer is no.

So, did the parents of Brian Landy murder Gabby?

 

[Cool Cats]

Gabby and Brian were mature adults. They had a volatile relationship but as mature adults, neither chose to lay assault charges.
Since they were mature adults and neither were developmentally delayed. They are free to make the choice to separate or stay together.
Which is why I do not understand why any of the parents need to be involved or held responsible for mature adults choices..moo

Because the Laundries need to be held responsible for their mature adult choices. Their choices had consequences to others.

 

[nao]

Because the Laundries need to be held responsible for their mature adult choices. Their choices had consequences to others.

Moo...they are in now way responsible for her death or their son's actions. Or if that is the way it works Gabby's parents should be held responsible for not telling Gabby to leave and come home..or going and getting her.....moo

 

[Cool Cats]

So, did the parents of Brian Landy murder Gabby?

You know the answer....I suggest reading why civil lawsuits are being filed and the pathetic guilt ridden depositions by the defendants. You don't offer a monetary settlement when not guilty.

 

[jjonez]

I’m seeing some issues debated here that have long been settled.
In case anyone needs to brush up on the facts…

WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 8/25/21, MEDIA, MAPS *NO DISCUSSION*

Missing woman disappears after road trip with boyfriend as mom reveals message to authorities | Fox News Gabby Petito, 22, set out on a road trip with her boyfriend in a converted camper van in early July to tour National Parks, but she disappeared in late August and her family hasn't heard...

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WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito - Grand Teton National Park - MEDIA, MAPS *NO DISCUSSION - #2

Missing woman disappears after road trip with boyfriend as mom reveals message to authorities | Fox News Gabby Petito, 22, set out on a road trip with her boyfriend in a converted camper van in early July to tour National Parks, but she disappeared in late August and her family hasn't heard...

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WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton NP, 8/25/21 TIMELINE thread *NO DISCUSSION*

Compliments of @oviedo LAST UPDATED 6:30 PM EST SEPT. 28 2020 MAR 17: IG Post- 1 yr anniversary JUL 2: GP announced her engagement to BL 2021 JUL 2: Van Life Road Trip Began for Gabby Petito and BL - GP is the owner of the van JUL 5: The couple stopped at Kansas' Monument Rocks JUL 8: Their...

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