Found Deceased WY - Gabby Petito, Grand Teton National Park #88

[Smelly Squirrel]

Doesn't matter why Bertolino sent the message, or who wrote it, or the idiotic thoughts behind it, it was designed to be deceptive, it was deceptive and the effect of it was deceptive. Bertolino acts on instructions from his clients. Everyone owns it.

It's only deceptive if they knew what Brian knew, but there's no proof of that. They could have certainly inferred that Brian did something and that he knew exactly where she was. But so could everybody else infer that as soon as it was found out he came home alone. But at the time nobody knew for sure what Brian did or knew. Everyone was right to strongly suspect Brian but that's not the same as knowing.

Gabby actually DID die. she didn;t just get threats , and no one got threatsened by the Petito's. The Petito's cannot be blamed for the undercurrent of craziness in American society. That's on the community . The fact is, Gabby was murdered, not just vaguely threatened . It's a matter of degree .

I can't find anywhere where Gabby 'took medication'. or ' fought with Brian ' in Florida, like fisticuffs etc, or anything of the sort. Roberta talks about a pie she made that did not get the required praise she felt was due to her, so she sulked and Gabby was upset and tried to apologise for not praising her high enough. (( sounds manipulative on Roberta's part to me, ) that's about all I can find to back up any story about this.

RL got upset because she served a pie she made and people didn't comment with appreciation, which is a perfectly normal and common reaction when people make food and feel unappreciated for it.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

It sounds like Dad had issues too. Didn’t know his own daughter’s last name, called Gabby’s boyfriend’s girls names. Just so weird.

It's Christopher who didn't know his daughter's married last name.

 

[Kakidoll]

I'd be in the jury pool, if it comes to that. And even after reading here, i'd be able to be unbiased to most of the "evidence". I think both families have issues, had issues with each other that made the situation worse. I don't think GP's parents wanted her living down here and knew (mom at least) more of the relationship than has been made public. I think its guilt feelings for not doing more on their side that is pushing THIS part of the court case. I also don't think we know the entire story yet, and probably never will.

 

[Sundog]

That's just the thing--we really don't know what either set of parents thought of the other set--little things like calling your child names might not have set well with them. Maybe the Laundries also felt put-upon by being the parents who gave the kids a roof over their heads. Maybe fed them--I don't remember hearing about that.

I just don't see the Laundries doing anything other than what most parents would initially do when faced with their child having done something very, very wrong. At first, they were likely in denial, and then, when they started having horrible niggling suspicions, they were still BL's parents. What parent is going to run to the parents of someone they may have suspected their son harmed and turn on their own son? Especially because their son was suicidal and they knew that.

That time was a nightmare for both families and I just hope they can both sit down on Wednesday and work it out for both of their sakes.

Gabby Petito's dad lashes out at 'killer' Brian Laundrie's parents in outburst

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Well said.

 

[Trooper]

This was one of the surprising things we learned in the depositions. That Bertolino was a longtime acquaintance of the Laundrie's and they had even done business together in the past, buying and selling properties.

Looking at his website, he is a jack-of-all-trades attorney. Claiming to do real estate, business law, litigation, personal injury law and criminal law.

I think he was over his head trying to represent both the Laundrie parents as well as Brian in this matter. First there's a conflict in their interests. And second, his inexperience with PR and crisis management led him to several blunders.

Especially the infamous "our hope that the search for Miss Petito is successful" statement, which IMO he put out because he didn't want himself or the Laudrie's to look like bad people. I very much doubt an attorney better versed in high profile cases of this type would have ever released this statement, knowing what he knew. (And yes, from the evidence that's been presented, I believe that both he and the Laundrie's knew full well that Gabby was dead.)

Bertolino was the wrong man at the wrong time, and it still surprises me that the Laundries gave themselves over to his spurious advice so wholeheartedly.. They needed experts, and Bertolino, if he could get his ego out of the way should have seen that instantly, and referred them on, or , and let's recall Ed Masry, when Brokovitch is embroiled in what is looking to be a colossal case, up against a mighty corporation, he calls in an expert law firm , for advice and to defray the risk, Bertolino should have done this, very very quickly.

... there is a good and solid reason why the Petito's can sue Bertolino. It isn't frivolous or trivial.


A PR lawyer, usually experts on the Human Condition, would have seen the situation exactly as it presented, and got an honest answer out of Brian, and gold advice to do the right thing, because the wrong thing will cost you everything.


Which may well be precisely what it does. It has certainly cost the Laundries their son, and that is a what is known as a not glowing testimonial of legal skill, when your client, and Brian was Bertolino's client. takes the gun route out.

 

[MyBelle]

Hi Boxer. Did you read Bertolino's depo? Must read imo. Incl believing Brian needed a crim lawyer and thinking gone might mean dead and he killed her, and speaking with the Laundries about about it. They all knew. So sickening, the poor Petitos.

Evidently you didn't read Bertolino's depo because he was extremely clear that it was Brian who said he needed an attorney. No mention of "crim lawyer."

JMO

 

[Sundog]

Bertolino was the wrong man at the wrong time, and it still surprises me that the Laundries gave themselves over to his spurious advice so wholeheartedly.. They needed experts, and Bertolino, if he could get his ego out of the way should have seen that instantly, and referred them on, or , and let's recall Ed Masry, when Brokovitch is embroiled in what is looking to be a colossal case, up against a mighty corporation, he calls in an expert law firm , for advice and to defray the risk, Bertolino should have done this, very very quickly.

... there is a good and solid reason why the Petito's can sue Bertolino. It isn't frivolous or trivial.


A PR lawyer, usually experts on the Human Condition, would have seen the situation exactly as it presented, and got an honest answer out of Brian, and gold advice to do the right thing, because the wrong thing will cost you everything.


Which may well be precisely what it does. It has certainly cost the Laundries their son, and that is a what is known s not glowing testimonial of legal skill, when your client, and Brian was Bertolino's client. takes the gun route out.

No one is to blame for BL's murder of GP but BL.
And no one is to blame for BL's suicide but BL.

Not the parents of BL, nor BL's attorney.
BL made his own choices.

 

[MyBelle]

<snipped for focus>

People choose to settle cases for lots of different reasons. Perhaps the L's and B have concluded they will never get a fair trial in this civil case. Or some other reason. I wouldn't assume guilt of people who settle matters in civil court.

I think the Judge will make sure the trial is fair...if it gets that far. The Judge might grant B's motion for summary judgment.

JMO

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[MyBelle]

It's only deceptive if they knew what Brian knew, but there's no proof of that. They could have certainly inferred that Brian did something and that he knew exactly where she was. But so could everybody else infer that as soon as it was found out he came home alone. But at the time nobody knew for sure what Brian did or knew. Everyone was right to strongly suspect Brian but that's not the same as knowing.



RL got upset because she served a pie she made and people didn't comment with appreciation, which is a perfectly normal and common reaction when people make food and feel unappreciated for it.

It was a very petty question to ask RL more than two years later and Reilly knows it. He was trying to humiliate her and likely succeeded.

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

That's just the thing--we really don't know what either set of parents thought of the other set--little things like calling your child names might not have set well with them. Maybe the Laundries also felt put-upon by being the parents who gave the kids a roof over their heads. Maybe fed them--I don't remember hearing about that.

I just don't see the Laundries doing anything other than what most parents would initially do when faced with their child having done something very, very wrong. At first, they were likely in denial, and then, when they started having horrible niggling suspicions, they were still BL's parents. What parent is going to run to the parents of someone they may have suspected their son harmed and turn on their own son? Especially because their son was suicidal and they knew that.

That time was a nightmare for both families and I just hope they can both sit down on Wednesday and work it out for both of their sakes.

Gabby Petito's dad lashes out at 'killer' Brian Laundrie's parents in outburst

GABBY Petito’s father has slammed the parents of their daughter’s killer, Brian Laundrie, during a fiery legal battle between the two families. Joseph Petito’s comments came in depositi…

www.the-sun.com

BBM. In reading the depositions, I think this has been an incredibly stressful two+ years. They both come across as loving parents. One thing I did note is that Roberta referred to GP as Gabrielle and I wonder if that is what she preferred to be called.

RL and CL had purchased a condo to use as a rental property and then learned they couldn't rent it out for a year. They invited GP and BL to live there. When she learned BL rented a storage locker for all their stuff while on their Van journey, RL encouraged him to come home and move their things into their home in order to save money. So Brian did so.

JMO

 

[Trooper]

Including their son might have done something.

It would require a total suspension of all known factors and elements of life as we know it for the Laundries to be able to avoid facing that possibility., remote as they may claim it to be, they live in the 2st century, they live, like 360 millioin other Americans with the daily idea of someone being murdered. Murder is not an aberration in that community. It happens all the time. I do not think a judge would believe it never crossed their mind, because that is not common sense.

 

[Sundog]

It would require a total suspension of all known factors and elements of life as we know it for the Laundries to be able to avoid facing that possibility., remote as they may claim it to be, they live in the 2st century, they live, like 360 millioin other Americans with the daily idea of someone being murdered. Murder is not an aberration in that community. It happens all the time. I do not think a judge would believe it never crossed their mind, because that is not common sense.

I don't believe that 360 million Americans live with the daily idea that their adult child might be guilty of murdering their partner. That seems like quite a stretch to me.

 

[Sundog]

<modsnip: quoted post was removed> The Laundries lost their son and the Petito's lost their daughter. At the hands of BL.
Not at the hands of Christopher and Roberta.

 

[Trooper]

I really think Roberta ( at her age! ) sulking about a pie encapsulates a lot of what went on in that Florida house. And she hung on to the offence, too.. It had meaning and significance to her.. It meant enough for her to actually put it in a deposition in a civil litigation!...

 

[DFWNF]

It sounds like Dad had issues too. Didn’t know his own daughter’s last name, called Gabby’s boyfriend’s girls names. Just so weird.

Those 2 things, one was Brian's Dad, the other Gabby's Dad.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

I really think Roberta ( at her age! ) sulking about a pie encapsulates a lot of what went on in that Florida house. And she hung on to the offence, too.. It had meaning and significance to her.. It meant enough for her to actually put it in a deposition in a civil litigation!...

This is not accurate. She was asked about it, she didn't bring it up herself.

 

[Trooper]

This is not accurate. She was asked about it, she didn't bring it up herself.

She rememebered it, and enlarged upon it, and her testimony entered into the record!... It had meaning to her, she added all sorts of extraneous details, ( she did not mention what sort of pie it was, I don't think ) . she bumbled around about it for 15 minutes, On the witness stand!.

That's called 'bringing it up herself' in anyone's language.

 

[DFWNF]

<modsnip: quoted post was removed> Bertolino's depo page 36 mentions they needed a criminal Wyoming lawyer, starting at page 27 it gets very interesting imo. They totally knew. Not sure if anyone read it. I am still reading through it.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Bertolino's depo page 36 mentions they needed a criminal Wyoming lawyer, starting at page 27 it gets very interesting imo. They totally knew. Not sure if anyone read it. I am still reading through it.

They could have believed a criminal lawyer was needed for a domestic violence case. JMO.

 

[Trooper]

Bertolino's depo page 36 mentions they needed a criminal Wyoming lawyer, starting at page 27 it gets very interesting imo. They totally knew. Not sure if anyone read it. I am still reading through it.

And they picked a lawyer from the exact county , ( Laramie) that Brian had chosen to murder Gabby in. So, it is reasonable to conclude that they knew where the body was, where the murder had taken place, under what jurisdiction. Or they had fantastic luck, incredible luck, the kind of luck you throw your hands about and say, NOOOOO. really???