Found Deceased WY - Gabby Petito, Grand Teton National Park #89

[PommyMommy]

Missing woman disappears after road trip with boyfriend as mom reveals message to authorities

Gabby Petito, 22, set out on a road trip with her boyfriend in a converted camper van in early July to tour National Parks, but she disappeared in late August and her family hasn't heard from her in more than two weeks. Now, her mother is pleading for help finding her daughter.

Nicole Schmidt, Petito's mother, said that the last verbal conversation she had with her daughter was on Aug. 25.

"I don't know if she left Grand Teton or not," Schmidt said. "I did receive a text from her on the 27th and the 30th, but I don't know if it was technically her or not, because it was just a text. I didn't verbally speak to her."

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The couple stopped in Grand Teton National Park on Aug. 25, Petito's last known location, before a planned trip to Yellowstone. They were traveling in a 2012 Ford white van that was converted into a camper.

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A spokesperson for the Jackson Police Department said that an "attempt to locate" call was recently filed for Petito. The Suffolk County Police Department is also investigating the case. Suffolk County PD declined to comment on Sunday.

Petito is 5’5" and has blonde hair and blue eyes. She has a triangle tattoo with flowers on her left arm and a "Let it be" tattoo on her right arm.

Anyone who has seen Gabby or has any information on the case should contact the Suffolk County Police Department at 1-800-220-8477.

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[Sillybilly]

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[kwash]

I am watching the Netflix series. Just finished episode 1 and thought I would share some thoughts (will come back after subsequent episodes if anything new to add). I also followed the case in the media and here.

- I will start by saying nothing excuses what Brian did to Gabby.
- they seemed very in love - genuinely. This may have changed and social media just glossed over the cracks in their relationship (probably intentionally so) - or they may have remained in love until the moment she died.
- when they were pulled over I think she lied to police to get out of trouble (not for assault, but for the erratic driving).
- the lying seemed to come naturally to her, like a defense mechanism.
- I think it is possible that she was the aggressor in the event that led to them being pulled over and felt terribly about it and wanted to/believed she could make it go away.
- given that I think she lied to the police and would have continued to do so I don’t think there is anything else they could have done to get at the truth if she was indeed scared and abused/in danger.
- him getting a hotel and her getting the van likely had everything to do with it being her vehicle and the fact that the narrative they both stuck to was that she was the aggressor.
- I don’t think the police did anything wrong here.

At this point I would say that hindsight is 20/20 and not every case is cookie cutter. It is so so unfortunate that her life was taken, but so far I don’t see anything to suggest that this outcome was identifiable and preventable at this stage.

Just my thoughts/opinions.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Found Deceased - WY - Gabby Petito, Grand Teton National Park #88

He was successful at it!!! He did not fail in his endeavour! lots of folks try it on, they are the ones charged and convicted of attempted murder.. Brian nailed it straight up, you don't think he practised his moves?? Murdering someone, even a young woman , smaller, lighter, with your bare hands, is hard work and requires persistance and dedication, He played at throttling women. He went for Gabby's face in the Moab incident. Practising. Again.

@Trooper
Are you saying that Brian Landry practised how to murder before he actually murdered Gabby? That he had planned all along to murder her? There is no evidence that I'm aware of that supports those statements. You also say he played at throttling "women". Would you please provide links with evidence to prove what you're saying because I'm only aware of one woman, Gabby.

 

[Trooper]

Found Deceased - WY - Gabby Petito, Grand Teton National Park #88

@Trooper
Are you saying that Brian Landry practised how to murder before he actually murdered Gabby? That he had planned all along to murder her? There is no evidence that I'm aware of that supports those statements. You also say he played at throttling "women". Would you please provide links with evidence to prove what you're saying because I'm only aware of one woman, Gabby.

are you seriously suggesting that the Moab moment was their first incident of fisticuffs, and attemps at throttling? I presume you listened to the observers call in, re the hideous sight of Brian scrabbling at Gabby's face in broad daylight, ??

Even Rose, Gabby's friend mentioned that they got down and got handsy with each other in a way that disturbed her. Gabby fending Brian off, Brian was quite proud of his violence towards his OWN SELF!.. he claims he poured gasoline on himself and set himself alight, that he ran into walls with his ridiculous head . He wrote about it with a certain touch of self admiration. in his silly 'apologia', letter , so badly written, so whiny and puerile... while loading his gun to kill himself,....

Throttling someone, like Brian did to Gabby, all across the world in any jurisdiction , research has found that it most likely includes a very long buildup to the actual death of the chosen victim, many shots at it, the victim often does not realise the extreme and imminent danger they are in, and the perpetrator sometimes has no grasp on why they do it, either, but it builds up over many incidents, until that fateful one time where they won't let go. The perpetrator actually has to build up to it, too, In Increments, up until it all goes too far.

It is a huge warning sign among police all over the world when they come across attempts at throttling.... most usually men throttling women, but sometiimes, throttling children, too...

Here is your link, ... no less than Gabby's mum telling us how Brian was right up for putting his hands round Gabby's throat...

Strangulation is the Highest Predictor of Murder

Being strangled by an abusive partner spikes a survivor’s risk of being murdered by them later on.

www.domesticshelters.org

A few excerpts from this article in case it is too long to read...

'In a study of homicide victims killed by an intimate partner, it was found that 43 percent had experienced a non-fatal strangulation by their partner prior to their murder. In attempted homicides by an intimate partner, 45 percent of victims had been strangled before the attempted murder. Researchers in the study, including acclaimed domestic violence expert Jacquelyn Campbell, who developed the Danger Assessment in 1987, determined that being strangled by a partner even one time increases a victim’s risk of homicide by that perpetrator over 600 percent.'

and this...'There’s no doubt that Petito’s death could have been prevented had Moab police been more proactive, but there’s another glaring red flag that only few knew about. Petito’s mom, Nichole Schmidt, tells DomesticShelters.org that a friend of her daughter’s told her the murder wasn’t the first time Laundrie strangled Schmidt’s daughter. He’d done it before.

“This was a close friend Gabby had confided in, but not someone I had spoken to before [Gabby’s murder]. The way her friend worded it, it sounded like something he liked to do,” Schmidt says. '

 

[Forest_Wood]

are you seriously suggesting that the Moab moment was their first incident of fisticuffs, and attemps at throttling? I presume you listened to the observers call in, re the hideous sight of Brian scrabbling at Gabby's face in broad daylight, ??

Even Rose, Gabby's friend mentioned that they got down and got handsy with each other in a way that disturbed her. Brian was quite proud of his violence towards his OWN SELF!.. he claims he poured gasoline on himself and set himself alight, that he ran into walls with his ridiculous head . He wrote about it with a certain touch of self admiration. in his silly 'apologia', letter , so badly written, so whiny and puerile... while loading his gun to kill himself,....

Throttling someone, like Brian did to Gabby, all across the world in any jurisdiction , research has found that it most likely includes a very long buildup to the actual death of the chosen victim, many shots at it, the victim often does not realise the extreme and imminent danger they are in, and the perpetrator sometimes has no grasp on why they do it, either, but it builds up over many incidents, until that fateful one time where they won't let go. The perpetrator actually has to build up to it, too, In Increments, up until it all goes too far.

It is a huge warning sign among police all over the world when they come across attempts at throttling.... most usually men throttling women, but sometiimes, throttling children, too...

Here is your link, ... no less than Gabby's mum telling us how Brian was right up for putting his hands round Gabby's throat...

Strangulation is the Highest Predictor of Murder

Being strangled by an abusive partner spikes a survivor’s risk of being murdered by them later on.

www.domesticshelters.org

That is a general link about strangulation and is not a link to evidence of what you stated previously that Brian Landry was practicing murder before he murdered and that he thottled "women". I've heard enough thank you.

 

[Trooper]

That is a general link about strangulation and is not a link to evidence of what you stated previously that Brian Landry was practicing murder before he murdered and that he thottled "women". I've heard enough thank you.

Obviously, you have not read the article.. No problem. Others will. Cheers !

 

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[LinasK]

20/20 show tonight is on Gabby Petito. I'll be watching.

 

[Warwick7]

I am stunned by what I watched on Netflix.
This young woman was abused by Laundrie.
Even early early on there was concerning behavior from Laundrie regarding his possessiveness and anger.
Gabby made excuses for him...
Very sad...

 

[Megnut]

IMO Gabby was victimized by Brian, conditioned to believe she was responsible if he was upset and if she could just learn how not to upset him, it would all be fine. I suspect Brian used all the methods, guilt, demoralizing, gaslighting, promising.

That day at Moab, she didn't know why LE separated them, why they asked what they asked (they were assessing for the aggressor). All MOO: she didn't want Brian arrested. For all the reasons victims of DV struggle, but including fearing Brian on the other side (after getting back out), how upset he'd be. I think he threatened to leave her a lot. Not just end the relationship, but abandon her. Take her keys. Take the van. No question theirs was a complex and rocky, messy relationship.

That traffic stop empowered Brian. In the worst way possible.

JMO

 

[Lalalacasbah]

IMO Gabby was victimized by Brian, conditioned to believe she was reasonable he was upset and if she corks just learn how not to upset him, it would all be fine. I suspect Brian used all the methods, guilt, demoralizing, gaslighting, promising.

That day at Moab, she didn't know why LE separated them, why they asked what they asked (they were assessing for the aggressor). All MOO: she didn't want Brian arrested. For all the reasons victims of DV struggle, but including fearing Brian on the other side (after getting back out), how upset he'd be. I think he threatened to leave her a lot. Not just end the relationship, but abandon her. Take her keys. Take the van. No question theirs was a complex and rocky, messy relationship.

That traffic stop empowered Brian. In the worst way possible.

JMO

You nailed it. She was in a vulnerable position because her put her in that position. ITA, sad the outcome

 

[friendlysleuther]

I am stunned by what I watched on Netflix.
This young woman was abused by Laundrie.
Even early early on there was concerning behavior from Laundrie regarding his possessiveness and anger.
Gabby made excuses for him...
Very sad...

It is sad. It's sad that our law enforcement officers aren't trained more in domestic violence.
It's sad that so many people act like they "don't want to get involved."
It's sad that people still victim blame.
It's sad that our nurses and doctors aren't more trained in domestic violence.

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[LinasK]

I am stunned by what I watched on Netflix.
This young woman was abused by Laundrie.
Even early early on there was concerning behavior from Laundrie regarding his possessiveness and anger.
Gabby made excuses for him...
Very sad...

Exactly! Rewatching the Moab footage just reinforces for me that Brian was the aggressor. If she hit him first, it was because he stole her phone and locked her out of the van. The police officers were automatically siding with him ("I've been married 5 years"), and he was the calm, rationale one while she was portrayed as the hysterical, out of control female. He is cold and calculating. Police ignored the witness report of him slapping her. She should have been the one who got the hotel room, not him! Ironically the cop even said after they let them go "Too many times women who are at risk, end up going back to their abuser and getting killed". That's exact what happened in this case. And reporter Jami Floyd said that many abused women take the blame for being the aggressor when they aren't.