Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #10

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  • #781
I don't think he had any business driving it either. But the discussion has been about having him arrested for stealing it. From a legal perspective, that would be pretty difficult to justify.

Only because Gabby isn't around to file a police report. In that case, easy peasy. And that's the problem in this case. The injured party (Gabby, whose van was taken away from her) is not available.

Thank you for clarifying - I wish Gabbys FL dad would report it stolen and at least see what might happen- I know it’s rather late but even if BL is found they said they would return him home - I hope with a very big bill for all the resources used for his search…
Maybe the phone records will yield enough for an arrest ? Or the search out west … sigh

JMO

I'm on the same page. My hope is that since it's likely BL used Gabby's phone to say "I'm in Yosemite" and Gabby had meticulous records on her travel apps showing she was headed to Yellowstone, that he had both phones with him - and that will be quite telling.

What's weird about the emerging story is that on August 29, BL takes a brief ride with strangers and apparently panics when he realizes he's heading south instead of north (or something like that). Is he trying to get back to the van? And it's north?

If they did head into the SE corner of Idaho to do dispersed camping (and BL told the young couple who picked him up that they were camping in dispersed camping), I figure that Gabby was already deceased and perhaps still with the van. BL runs off, eats melon, posts a few pictures, takes a shower at Coulter Bay, tries to get a ride - surely back to the van? His running off from where ever the van was makes me think he freaked out over whatever it was that happened to Gabby. If he thinks Gabby is still alive and with the van, and he's just been doing walkabout so that they have some distance, then...what did he find when he got back to the van?

If it's merely 'No Gabby" and he has absolutely no clue where she is (but has her phone??), surely he would have told local police. If not, then I think his own mental status is highly question (or he's guilty of something awful).

I predict their two phones travelled in parallel until...BL got rid of Gabby's phone and that last ping will help in trying to find her. Sadly, if it is true they were in SE Idaho, that's one of the most remote places in the lower 48 to try and search for someone...although the fact that BL didn't know the area is helpful.
 
  • #782
I find it so bizarre that the parents took Brian’s car! How were they expecting him to get home, or were they not?
Why did Brian take Gabby's van? How was he expecting her to get home, or was he not?

They're not answering questions like that.
 
  • #783
As far as I know, yes, that's a crime. But so far - very technically - no evidence of a crime yet. No one can be arrested yet.

Possibly there was forensic data from the van that could be considered evidence and LE is just putting everything together? MOO
 
  • #784
I’m past the point of believing a single word the Laundrie’s utter.

They have lied, obstructed and as far as I’m concerned aided and abetted their son. I know: he hasn’t been charged.

Why didn’t they tell LE about the car last night? Buying more time?

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All MOO. I don’t believe he’s in that Park.
 
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MOO
I think he told the parents he needed to get out of the house to do some thinking and when he didn’t show up they searched and found the car. They became nervous as a couple of days passes. With all the people and media frenzy, I think it worsened his mental state and it is very possible he commuted suicide. I hope not, esp. for Gabby’s sake. I mentioned this before, but no one commented. He is present ok Gabby’s Insta post on the 19th, which would not have been possible if he had been in FL from the 17th-23rd. Do we have any firm confirmation he flew back those dates. Also, I don’t know if I believe the Tik-tok story. Like every other case, people come out all the time, thinking they have seen sitings.

Him appearing on her IG on that date does not mean he was present that date. It's not uncommon to post content at a later time, especially if you are trying to get a following and devote time to working on your social media/constructing content.
 
  • #787
(They just brought in a bloodhound in addition to K9s that have been there all day, and a swamp buggy)
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#northport #findgabby #gabbypetito

https://twitter.com/kkuizon/status/1439304078660718599?s=20
 
  • #788
I find it so bizarre that the parents took Brian’s car! How were they expecting him to get home, or were they not?
Whose car is the Mustang, Brian's or theirs? Do we know?
 
  • #789
Do I understand correctly that the North Port Police Department is the "lead" agency in both missing persons investigations? If that's an accurate understanding - and after watching their actions, behaviors, communications, apparent strategy, etc. - I'm not convinced that either matter is in the best hands. Admittedly, more than half that opinion comes from Mr. Taylor's representation... which may be an aberration to the department as a whole.
 
  • #790
Right, he hadn’t been charged with a crime, so it’s possibly legal…..he may be in the Bahamas….

I think the Bahamas has an extradition treaty. If he did leave the country (if, idk one way or the other), he'd have to go somewhere without an extradition treaty if he wanted to escape all of this. Unless he is a citizen of another country that does have an extradition treaty.
 
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You're very generous. I don't think for one moment they're telling the truth. Certainly not the whole truth. Selective truth? Perhaps.

MOO.
Selective truth bit by bit. I feel like LE is following breadcrumbs provided by the family and quite possibly in the wrong direction. I hate to say it, but it's almost like they are in control at the moment.
JMO
 
  • #793
I'm trying to catch up on the fast-moving threads.

These two things stand out to me:

AUGUST 13th Is this the last sighting of Gabby by the law enforcement when pulled over for speeding?
Any proof she was seen after that night by anyone or better yet a security camera?
Hotel survillence cameras?

Why did BL fly back home to Florida? Did he say they broke up temporarily?
Or had planned to fly back for another reason? Was this a planned or spur-of-the-moment trip?
If NOT planned sounds like they weren't getting along or broke up or he accidentally killed her panicked and returned home.
The date AUGUST 13th/14th stand put to me as important dates.

Did she speak to her mom on AUGUST 25th? Do we know for a FACT she spoke to her on a phone and NOT TEXTED? This is an important detail.
If So then AUGUST 25th is the LAST known phone call she made with another human being. (mom).

Yes she was seen up until potentially the 26th. No proof he went back to FL. 25th was Facetime

So this is weird to me too. BL is 24 years old. He's not a minor. He's an adult. Legally independent. His parents have no legal rights over him in terms of guardianship, etc. Why didn't LE insist on speaking to BL to his face and have BL invoke his right himself? Isn't that pretty incompetent? What if BL wanted to speak but his parents were preventing it? (Unlikely but possible)

They weren't the lead agency at that point.
 
  • #794
I find it so bizarre that the parents took Brian’s car! How were they expecting him to get home, or were they not?

It runs in the family. And I mean literally "runs" because everybody ends up stranded with no car
 
  • #795
You can't report a car stolen when it's in police custody. And he had every business driving the van, he was the primary driver, she admitted she wasn't used to driving it or comfortable in the driver's seat (I don't remember her words exactly), but she mainly rode shotgun from what it seems. So yes, he had every right and business driving it. He had no right and no business leaving her, that's what matters.
Agreed, but..If his name was not on the van, he had no business driving it if he abandoned her. (or whatever)..if that's what happened.
If they find her body in a canyon or the river and he drove a van home that is not in his name and used her credit card for gas..that is no bueno for him, regardless of who has the van now.
But, we just don't know yet.
I am not a lawyer but I gave birth to one lol.
 
  • #796
Do I understand correctly that the North Port Police Department is the "lead" agency in both missing persons investigations? If that's an accurate understanding - and after watching their actions, behaviors, communications, apparent strategy, etc. - I'm not convinced that either matter is in the best hands. Admittedly, more than half that opinion comes from Mr. Taylor's representation... which may be an aberration to the department as a whole.
Mr. Taylor IMO is clearly in over his head. I hope the department has a better handle on it. ETA: I say this meaning no disrespect at all. NPPD is a small department with limited resources and this is quite an extraordinary case that would push most agencies to the limit.
 
  • #797
Would helping their son escape be obstruction of justice?

It depends. If they’re lying to police about something involving an investigation, yes. If they made a false police report about their son missing, that would be a different charge.
 
  • #798
I can't keep up with this someone please help me understand.

So the parents say both:
  • "They last saw him Tuesday"
  • "They last saw him at the Reserve"
  • "They found the car at the Reserve on Tuesday and drove it home"
Am I getting that right? Please let me know if I am confused.

Because if that's the case, I feel like they must have driven that car there and dropped him off on Tuesday. If they were able to see him in person there, and then the same day found his car there, then they were with him there, right? I'm sure they don't want to say that because obviously it's helping him escape (even if they're just DENSE and really thought he was "going for a hike").

And WHY would they drive the car home and leave him stranded if they thought he would need it?

What is going on and why is this so damn confusing? I can't even get their stories straight. WHEN AND WHERE DID THEY LAST SEE HIM? Was it AT this Reserve? Did they "find" his car there or did they help him get there?
 
  • #799
MOO
I think he told the parents he needed to get out of the house to do some thinking and when he didn’t show up they searched and found the car. They became nervous as a couple of days passes. With all the people and media frenzy, I think it worsened his mental state and it is very possible he commuted suicide. I hope not, esp. for Gabby’s sake. I mentioned this before, but no one commented. He is present ok Gabby’s Insta post on the 19th, which would not have been possible if he had been in FL from the 17th-23rd. Do we have any firm confirmation he flew back those dates. Also, I don’t know if I believe the Tik-tok story. Like every other case, people come out all the time, thinking they have seen sitings.
If BL was going to commit suicide, I think he would have done it right there rather than "disappear."
 
  • #800
Is there a way to determine how many followers they had and how many likes their posts were getting BEFORE she was reported missing and became international news? I do think they were hoping to become van-life influencers and likely were not making any headway due to the fact that there are thousands of people creating similar videos. It's basically a shot in the dark to think your videos will succeed, but the fact that SOMEONE has to succeed entices people. I follow some van lifers, but for every successful one there are dozens of channels chugging along with a few hundred subscribers hoping for a big break or viral moment.

Influencers try to sell their followers on the dream. You can also make money by literally just posting on social media like me! Supply and demand doesn't work like that. If everyone was an influencer, then there is nobody to influence. A handful might succeed and the rest don't.

FWIW, I had taken a screenshot of GP & BL's joint TikTok page on Sunday, Sept 12 at 8:35pm PDT.

At that time, they had the following:
  • 177 Following
  • 104 Followers
  • 329 Likes
(Source: Screenshot from my phone)

As of right now:
  • 177 Following
  • 21.2K Followers
  • 9991 Likes
TikTok
 
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