Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #13

[bambibones]

How do we know he didn't have a sleeping bag? I can pack one of my sleeping bags into a very small pouch. There are people thruhiking teh appalachian trail with packs smaller than a kids school bag.

Miranda TikTok said that his bag was very empty and he replied that he was only carrying a tarp.

 

[otto]

Her mom doest think the text received on the 27th was from her daughter.

It's the Aug 30 text that doesn't seem to be from Gabby.

25 August, 2021: Ms Petito’s mother, Nicole Schmidt, video chats with her daughter for the last time via phone. Ms Petito reveals she is in Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming.

27 August, 2021: Gabby tells friend via Snapchat they was heading for meet up at Yellowstone National Park and she will call on her birthday, August 29, to solidify the plan.

29 August, 2021: Missed birthday call with friend to discuss meet up plans at Yellowstone National Park.

30 August, 2021: Ms Schmidt receives a text purportedly from Ms Petito. Ms Smith says she is unsure if the text was actually from her daughter.​

 

[squareandrabbet]

whoa, this is my first time hearing this, where did this info come from?

Yes, I would like to see a cited source here.

Gabby Petito case: Search continues in thousands of rural acres for Brian Laundrie

 

[distracted]

Woman Claims She Picked up Brian Laundrie Hitchhiking in Wyoming | PEOPLE.com
In the TikTok video, Baker claimed that Laundrie approached the couple around 5:30 p.m. local time that evening in need of a ride to Jackson, where she said they happened to be heading (She clarified the official pick-up time as 5:44 p.m. in a subsequent video on her TikTok page).

@otto

I find Baker to be credible. She didn't go off on any tangents and she didn't appear to be attention seeking, to me at least.

Plus the fact that the FBI would even acknowledge her sighting says a lot, as they very seldom do this. It's usually "No comment."

 

[milkshakedonkey]

If he did all that carrying & hiding (somewhat) her body, he would get in the car looking unclean though. Tiktok said he didn't even smell at all. After all that, I'd assume he got scruffy.

There are public showers where he was picked up.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Well, assuming that the TikTok sighting was correct, that time is pretty well established by time-stamps on related communications.

Don't forget WS.

And the hilarious scolding she got from her mom.

 

[perception≠reality]

whoa, this is my first time hearing this, where did this info come from?

Yes, I would like to see a cited source here.

The cited source was already quoted on page 5 of the thread.

Gabby Petito case: Search continues in thousands of rural acres for Brian Laundrie


The Laundries told police he could be in one of the parks, said Joshua Taylor, spokesperson for the North Port Police Department.

“At this point, we’re going by the family’s word of where they think he is,” he said. They said he was familiar with the parks and often went there. Taylor also said Brian’s scent was at the park, although the car he may have driven there, or ridden in, was not there.”


Of course, we know now Brian’s parents state they found the car at the preserve and drove it back home. The revelation about his scent being at the park was something I missed the first time I read this article. I’m glad it was pointed out by the last poster.

 

[sk716]

I don't know Florida, but it's on the ocean? Could he have just sailed off somehow? But with who, how? By himself? Whose boat, etc. I feel like this takes the cake for dumb question of the day.

When Florida is involved, I try not to rule anything out. The heat and humidity aren't the issue (the whole south feels like that), it's swamp gas or something. Alligator poo poisoning? Curse of the Seminole Nation?

North Point is between Tampa and Ft Meyers on the Gulf coast. Getting out on the Gulf would take no effort at all if you have the means. The Coast Guard doesn't care if you are trying to float away from the US.

 

[whitelilac]

The scent in the Florida reserve......any possibility the scent could be left over from when he went back by plane (if he indeed did)? Parents said he liked to frequent the place. Just want it to be certain that the scent is from earliest last Tuesday when he took off.
How long can scents last?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

There is no database of how many people go missing in national parks every year but the National Parks Servicehas at least 29 cold cases of people who have gone missing and have yet to be found, with the oldest case dating back to 1958.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons Systemreported that more than 600,000 people go missing in the US every year, but the majority are quickly found, "alive and well," but there are tens of thousands of cold cases, where someone is missing for over a year.

As of Saturday, there were 20,685 open missing person cases across the US.
Several people have gone missing in national parks across the country in the past week

 

[Coquette]

5:30 and dropped off at 6:09 p.m.

She actually clarified that it was 5:44pm and dropped off at 6:09pm.

 

[Seabunny]

My brother, who is close to BL's age, is on the autism spectrum and has been in and out of psych wards since he was 12 or 13. This could be a reason why his parents were "expecting" something to happen - especially if he didn't have an official dx yet. I don't want to get too into my own story here, but a lot of autistic people including my brother have a variety of comorbid mental health conditions, but usually people have one issue (ASD, ADHD, anxiety, bipolar, etc) that "primarily" causes problems and can sometimes make other issues less obvious and less likely for individuals to get help. FWIW TikTok has been a huge contributor to a lot of "late" ASD diagnoses recently because people that are actually autistic have been discussing things like autistic burnout and masking that haven't really been commonly talked about on the more pathologized, clinical side of things. I think this is a very very telling piece of information because that's the type of term you don't just seek out on Pinterest unless it's something that is directly affecting you or a loved one.

Already crossed my mind.

 

[Jurisprudence]

Hypothesis answered in previous post, Tentative.

Well, last night I was really leaning toward a family member meeting him there driving the van back and BL taking off from Utah or Wyoming. But, in light of the sighting of the van at Spread Creek on 8/29 (the day he was hitchhiking back), it seems more plausible that this is where he left the van and when he hitched a ride with the Tokers he was trying to get back there. <modsnip>

 

[bambibones]

The scent in the Florida reserve......any possibility the scent could be left over from when he went back by plane (if he indeed did). Parents said he liked to frequent the place. Just want it to be certain that the scent is from last earliest last Tuesday when he took off?
How long can scents last?

Depends on the dog. Some very specialized dogs can pick up scents weeks later.

 

[milkshakedonkey]

I’m heading to bed. I fully expect to wake up to the next big twist. Perhaps that BL has been spotted in the Bermuda Triangle.

 

[TotusTuus]

primitive camping isn't that difficult. Heck its easier than typical camping. You have a lot less stuff to worry about and to carry. I've actually seen a "backpacker" who didn't even have a backpack. He had a very big trench coat that he stuffed the pockets with various stuff and just curled up in the coat to sleep. I've seen people roll up in a tarp like a burrito - no tent, no sleeping bag. You don't have to be Grizzly Adams to do it.

100% agreed, but from what I've seen, the mental attitude makes all of the difference. There are people who like to sleep out under the stars on just a tarp, and people who like the idea of sleeping out under the stars on just a tarp. I think both BL and GP were the latter. I wish that didn't sound so judgmental, because more than once when I was their age I got in over my head in a wilderness situation because of overconfidence and over-estimating my abilities. But in this case, I think both of them were at heart not ready for the kind of privations they had to face as part of a free van life.

Also, primitive camping is really easy if you are close to civilization and rescue. When you're fifteen hours away from the next human settlement it's a different story. I think BL was a capable car camper and day hiker and that's as far as it goes. I haven't seen anything to indicate he was more capable of wilderness survival than that.

 

[feralwriter]

Interesting info, thanks! Yeah, so much is hard to rule out atm....

When Florida is involved, I try not to rule anything out. The heat and humidity aren't the issue (the whole south feels like that), it's swamp gas or something. Alligator poo poisoning? Curse of the Seminole Nation?

North Point is between Tampa and Ft Meyers on the Gulf coast. Getting out on the Gulf would take no effort at all if you have the means. The Coast Guard doesn't care if you are trying to float away from the US.

 

[Jurisprudence]

Yes. He told them he was going to do just that (hitch another ride).

 

[Satchie]

My thoughts about the tarp were piqued because it seemed like probably a lie, and people with a guilty conscience often make up lies to explain things they don't need to explain.

So, just as speculation, it occurs to me that a potential Brian mentioning he had been camping on a tarp, was a lie to cover up why he had a tarp.

A tarp is sadly often used to move a body. Drag it, roll it, easier to lift, etc.

All amateur speculation, coming from the problem of how come Gabby hasn't yet been found in one of the most heavily hiked areas of the US.

 

[feralwriter]

There are public showers where he was picked up.

I wonder if he had a change of clothes.... dragging a body.... I don't know, something here doesn't add up for me, but we'll see!